At last

Quote by tweeky
I guess we should just do the China way and fuck it lets make money!!!!!

Quote by Big_Fraser
The only route to a sustainable future is population control, it doesnt matter how 'green' we go, the worlds population is increasing at an unsustainable rate.
I have no answers regarding how this can be done, but if we dont control growth nature might do it for us - with potentially catastrophic results.

Quote by Bluefish2009
George Osborne talks common sense on climate change! Very refreshing indeed, after years of over zealous laws from our last Government. :thumbup:
How climate change zealots are wrecking every last industry this country possesses.
Rather overshadowed by events at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester last week was a line in George Osborne's speech which could mark the start of a long overdue political transformation in Britain.
The Chancellor acknowledged that a decade of environmental laws had been piling unnecessary costs on households and companies, adding that Britain was not going to save the planet by putting ourselves out of business.
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Quote by gulsonroad30664
control growth ? what growth ? industrial activity worldwide has dropped 30% in the last 2 and a half years. climate change (the new catch phrase) was known as global warming until the university of east anglia was caught corrupting the data which proved global cooling.
the earth has always undergone climate change and always will do. "the sun" not murdochs comic is the overwhelming influence not mans activity.
the earth's population is soley dependent upon man's ability to harness and control energy. "energy flux density per square kilometre". if you want to go the route of population control as do the ruling elite, someone has to choose who is to live and who is to die.
the global warming bollox was designed to achieve exactly that. if you reduce the carbon footprint of a continent where the majority of people live at subsistance level, you will kill them by the million. billions will die as a consequence of the global economic collapse as well and that will put paid to all the crap about the worlds population increasing at an unsustainable level. nonsense anyway

Quote by deancannock
"When he became Prime Minister, David Cameron carried on the theme, promptly declaring that he wanted the Coalition to be 'the greenest Government ever'.
His new Energy and Climate Change Secretary Chris Huhne added that he wanted to go 'further and faster than ever before'. Then it was announced that Britain, uniquely, should set a minimum price for carbon credits, instead of allowing the market to decide."
Taken from the article linked in blue's post. So what is mr Cameron going to say to those that voted for him, on the promise they were to be the greenest government ever !!
So pretends to be green when wants a few votes, but ditches it as it might cost more. I do believe all the chemicals we are pumping into the atmosphere and our sea's are haveing an effect. As humans we always say we are are what we eat !! Our diet shapes our health and well being to a great degree. Is our planet, any different? Keep pumping it with chemicals and it will get sick !!! Treat it with respect, and it will last a lifetime !!

Quote by gulsonroad30664
The only route to a sustainable future is population control, it doesnt matter how 'green' we go, the worlds population is increasing at an unsustainable rate.
I have no answers regarding how this can be done, but if we dont control growth nature might do it for us - with potentially catastrophic results.

Quote by Richard North
The starkest fact of the week – according to Booker – is that, while the stoods are being stuffed for £2.9 billion to keep the education budget down, £2.9 billion is precisely the sum we are being forced to dole out to the jungle bunnies so that they can buy windmills, solar panels and new Mercedes cars for their rulers and their entourages.

Quote by Big_Fraser
While I agree that man made global warming has been massively over egged, I do think the rate of human population growth and enviromental degradation is unsustainable in the long term. The issue requires more urgent attention than global warming and climate change which has acted not only as a distraction but also a smoke screen.
I am not going to be getting deeper involved in this one, a debate where people simply quote the dailymail and americandaily is not somewhere I choose to be.
The mail does not even have a reference to the full text of Osbournes speech anywhere on its site, in its little rant it even uses points he raises in it without attributing the comments to him.
I do get involved in discussions on current affairs, philosophy and politics elsewhere, I always forget what happens on SH. People quote newspapers at each other.
Newspapers are mostly full of shit, evidenced by the fact this article was written by richard north, he thought this was a good idea to add on a blog, despite having used the same rascist terms before:
The starkest fact of the week – according to Booker – is that, while the stoods are being stuffed for £2.9 billion to keep the education budget down, £2.9 billion is precisely the sum we are being forced to dole out to the jungle bunnies so that they can buy windmills, solar panels and new Mercedes cars for their rulers and their entourages.

Quote by Bluefish2009
While I agree that man made global warming has been massively over egged, I do think the rate of human population growth and enviromental degradation is unsustainable in the long term. The issue requires more urgent attention than global warming and climate change which has acted not only as a distraction but also a smoke screen.
I am not going to be getting deeper involved in this one, a debate where people simply quote the dailymail and americandaily is not somewhere I choose to be.
The mail does not even have a reference to the full text of Osbournes speech anywhere on its site, in its little rant it even uses points he raises in it without attributing the comments to him.
I do get involved in discussions on current affairs, philosophy and politics elsewhere, I always forget what happens on SH. People quote newspapers at each other.
Newspapers are mostly full of shit, evidenced by the fact this article was written by richard north, he thought this was a good idea to add on a blog, despite having used the same rascist terms before:
The starkest fact of the week – according to Booker – is that, while the stoods are being stuffed for £2.9 billion to keep the education budget down, £2.9 billion is precisely the sum we are being forced to dole out to the jungle bunnies so that they can buy windmills, solar panels and new Mercedes cars for their rulers and their entourages.

Quote by gulsonroad30664
global warming or climate change due to mans activity is hocus pocus bollox

Quote by Bluefish2009