Ban on prisoners voting not unjust, says David Davis
I have been torn on this one, but i now feel that loosing the vote is a just part of loosing your liberty.
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Ban on prisoners voting not unjust, says David Davis
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As the size of an average Constituancy is around 60,000 people and the prison population is around 70,000 why can't the prisoners just elect one of themselves for Parliment ?
It would make a change for a prisioner to go to Parliment as it seems that these days a lot of Members of Parliment become prisioners.
John
It would make a change for a prisioner to go to Parliment as it seems that these days a lot of Members of Parliment become prisioners.
John
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Quote by Geordiecpl2001
As the size of an average Constituancy is around 60,000 people and the prison population is around 70,000 why can't the prisoners just elect one of themselves for Parliment ?
It would make a change for a prisioner to go to Parliment as it seems that these days a lot of Members of Parliment become prisioners.
John
I like that!
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I beleive that voting is a privilege not a human right. Human rights are a limited list - food, water, shelter, basic healthcare/education and freedom from immediate threat. And when a person transgresses they can expect to have some or many of their privileges removed.
I am very happy for someone who has been proven in court (ok not perfect but it's better than most) to have broken the law, to have this aspect of civilisation withheld while they are in prison. It's not permanent - even life sentences aren't - so it's no great hardship.
I would like to do a lot more to criminals - like have them do restorative work, face their victims and explain themselves, be treated until they are properly off drugs, work 8 hours a day, 6 days a week at hard, useful work while behind bars. But I know that is a pipe-dream.
I am very happy for someone who has been proven in court (ok not perfect but it's better than most) to have broken the law, to have this aspect of civilisation withheld while they are in prison. It's not permanent - even life sentences aren't - so it's no great hardship.
I would like to do a lot more to criminals - like have them do restorative work, face their victims and explain themselves, be treated until they are properly off drugs, work 8 hours a day, 6 days a week at hard, useful work while behind bars. But I know that is a pipe-dream.
once inside you should not be allowed to vote, and no outside country or group of stuffed shirts should be able to change that .
however I feel peeps on the outside who dont vote are wasting thier right to complain when things go wrong, Like petrol rises, spending cuts etc
so vote even if your choice doesnt get in at least you can say I DID my best
remember whoever you vote for government wins
however I feel peeps on the outside who dont vote are wasting thier right to complain when things go wrong, Like petrol rises, spending cuts etc
so vote even if your choice doesnt get in at least you can say I DID my best
remember whoever you vote for government wins
Quote by browning
If the european parliment can tell our goverment what to do, what is the point of a british goverment......................
I thought it was the ECHR judges who had deemed our own government's position to be in breach of European Law? Happy to stand corrected but it was nothing to do with the EU itself.
The rather worrying factor is the experience and background of some of these "judges"
We in the UK live in a democracy, over time we have as a nation decided not to live under the rule of the Monarchy who once had total control over the laws that govern us.
Each and every one of us has the choice to live in this Country and abide by it's laws, we also have the choice to leave this democracy if we are not willing to abide by the rules of Parliament.
In other Countries not everyone has that privedidge.
So by choosing to live in this Country we agree to abide by the rules of Parliament, if therefore you choose to break those rules you have expressed a desire to live in a different way and what Parliament decides is of no consquence to you and you have no right to vote for who is in said Parliament, break the rules you give up your rights.
Only MP's have the right to influence laws for thier own benefit, some may think (as I do) that this in itself is wrong but that is the system we have chosen to live under.
(I refer to laws such as smoking being permitted in certain bars and areas within the House of Lords and House of Commons, the law which exempts MP's and members of the House of Lords from having to purchase a TV licence or Road tax.)
Each and every one of us has the choice to live in this Country and abide by it's laws, we also have the choice to leave this democracy if we are not willing to abide by the rules of Parliament.
In other Countries not everyone has that privedidge.
So by choosing to live in this Country we agree to abide by the rules of Parliament, if therefore you choose to break those rules you have expressed a desire to live in a different way and what Parliament decides is of no consquence to you and you have no right to vote for who is in said Parliament, break the rules you give up your rights.
Only MP's have the right to influence laws for thier own benefit, some may think (as I do) that this in itself is wrong but that is the system we have chosen to live under.
(I refer to laws such as smoking being permitted in certain bars and areas within the House of Lords and House of Commons, the law which exempts MP's and members of the House of Lords from having to purchase a TV licence or Road tax.)
