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Quote by GnV
Gnv with respect i think all you do is find things ro say against Britain to justify yourself going to France. Let me tell you that you don't have to. If your enjoying yourself in France good I'm glad for you other that. It was Britain that afforded you the chance to enjoy France the way you most obviously do.
My mother would come back to Britain at the drop of a hat given the chance and if anything happens to my dad then thats the first thing she'll do.
My Dads a little bit like you in respect that he has to point out every little thing that he (thats him not others I might add) prefers about France. Its as though its a mission to make people want to applaud him for it. Well bollox to that you two You really do remind me a little of Lord Haw Haw and the German propaganda shite. Do excuse me if I offend anyones sensitivities with that remark.

Something about not shooting the messenger comes to mind here... rolleyes
I would agree with that but for the fact its usually the same messenger :roll:
Quote by Steve
Gnv with respect i think all you do is find things ro say against Britain to justify yourself going to France. Let me tell you that you don't have to. If your enjoying yourself in France good I'm glad for you other that. It was Britain that afforded you the chance to enjoy France the way you most obviously do.
My mother would come back to Britain at the drop of a hat given the chance and if anything happens to my dad then thats the first thing she'll do.
My Dads a little bit like you in respect that he has to point out every little thing that he (thats him not others I might add) prefers about France. Its as though its a mission to make people want to applaud him for it. Well bollox to that you two You really do remind me a little of Lord Haw Haw and the German propaganda shite. Do excuse me if I offend anyones sensitivities with that remark.

Something about not shooting the messenger comes to mind here... rolleyes
I would agree with that but for the fact its usually the same messenger :roll:
again and again and again! :roll:
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink
Quote by kentswingers777
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink

Only when its the same old slagging off the UK shit!
the blokes a ture french man, a twat....
what??? dunno he just said all the britts are money gready. so im lumping him in with my one meeting of a french person who was a twat.
i know im not money gready, or botherd by someones income or home ownership.
what he been here for 2 years for if its so crap?
yes shit has hit the fan, but keep telling people its crap and they think its crap.
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Quote by Mr-Powers
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink

Only when its the same old slagging off the UK shit!
Well you do not have to reply or comment. He has a right like you and me to say whatever he likes, as often as he likes.....it's called " free speech ". :wink:
Quote by kentswingers777
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink

Only when its the same old slagging off the UK shit!
Well you do not have to reply or comment. He has a right like you and me to say whatever he likes, as often as he likes.....it's called " free speech ". :wink:

I have every right to reply...as Brits we might not be perfect but i won't stand back when we're getting slagged off,wether it coming direct from them or from links...We get it...we know GnV isn't a big fan of the UK buts its getting a little stale now with his little digs about the UK and how the French are so wonderful and how brilliant he is for moving there and how superior and smug he must feel.
Quote by Mr-Powers
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink

Only when its the same old slagging off the UK shit!
Well you do not have to reply or comment. He has a right like you and me to say whatever he likes, as often as he likes.....it's called " free speech ". :wink:

I have every right to reply...as Brits we might not be perfect but i won't stand back when we're getting slagged off!
Ya can't argue with facts. surprised
Quote by kentswingers777
Name five things then. lol

Quote by kentswingers777
You always get some who say they love the weather here in the UK.

So leaving the weather aside, he's still given you 9 reasons why he likes Britain. It's simple, if you don't like it, don't stay. And if you move away because you don't like it, why keep coming back to moan?
Quote by kentswingers777
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink

Only when its the same old slagging off the UK shit!
Well you do not have to reply or comment. He has a right like you and me to say whatever he likes, as often as he likes.....it's called " free speech ". :wink:

I have every right to reply...as Brits we might not be perfect but i won't stand back when we're getting slagged off!
Ya can't argue with facts. surprised
facts about what...yeah the country is fucked right now...but so is the rest of the world!
Quote by northwest-cpl
Name five things then. lol

Quote by kentswingers777
You always get some who say they love the weather here in the UK.

So leaving the weather aside, he's still given you 9 reasons why he likes Britain. It's simple, if you don't like it, don't stay. And if you move away because you don't like it, why keep coming back to moan?
and he gave 9 good reasons to stay...and was still ridiculed for it!
anyone see the BBC News tonight?

some how i don't we have the only government that the people have no faith in,but you don't see us rioting on the streets.
Quote by Mr-Powers
People get bored sooooooooo easily. wink

Only when its the same old slagging off the UK shit!
Well you do not have to reply or comment. He has a right like you and me to say whatever he likes, as often as he likes.....it's called " free speech ". :wink:

I have every right to reply...as Brits we might not be perfect but i won't stand back when we're getting slagged off!
Ya can't argue with facts. surprised
facts about what...yeah the country is fucked right now...but so is the rest of the world!
A bit of a sweeping statement.
Quote by kentswingers777
A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
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Quote by blonde

A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Are you really agreeing that EVERY country is " fucked "? I do not think so. This country is for sure, but then again it has been for the best part of 30 years. wink
Quote by kentswingers777

A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Are you really agreeing that EVERY country is " fucked "? I do not think so. This country is for sure, but then again it has been for the best part of 30 years. wink
Are you realy that nieve or stupid as to think this is not a worldwide problem..and that every country in the world is not suffering. The problems we encounter at the moment, eminate out of America. Remember the old saying America sneezes and we all get a cold.....well America right now has a bad bout of flu !! Just take a look at our of so close neighbours france roiting in the streets because if the job losses. unemployment there likely to be 35% of the population soon !! China is in a massive decline at the is less demand for product to start with but also they used to be cheap..but with the decline of the pound and other currencies all of a sudden there products are not so cheap. We in this country have taken early action. Other countries have all now followed and copied. Wake up and smell the coffee..this is a global problem, and requires global action.
Quote by deancannock

A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Are you really agreeing that EVERY country is " fucked "? I do not think so. This country is for sure, but then again it has been for the best part of 30 years. wink
Are you realy that nieve or stupid as to think this is not a worldwide problem..and that every country in the world is not suffering. The problems we encounter at the moment, eminate out of America. Remember the old saying America sneezes and we all get a cold.....well America right now has a bad bout of flu !! Just take a look at our of so close neighbours france roiting in the streets because if the job losses. unemployment there likely to be 35% of the population soon !! China is in a massive decline at the is less demand for product to start with but also they used to be cheap..but with the decline of the pound and other currencies all of a sudden there products are not so cheap. We in this country have taken early action. Other countries have all now followed and copied. Wake up and smel the coffee..this is a blobal problem, and requires global action.
I certainly am neither of those.........are you? :wink:
Quote by kentswingers777

A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Are you really agreeing that EVERY country is " fucked "? I do not think so. This country is for sure, but then again it has been for the best part of 30 years. wink
Are you realy that nieve or stupid as to think this is not a worldwide problem..and that every country in the world is not suffering. The problems we encounter at the moment, eminate out of America. Remember the old saying America sneezes and we all get a cold.....well America right now has a bad bout of flu !! Just take a look at our of so close neighbours france roiting in the streets because if the job losses. unemployment there likely to be 35% of the population soon !! China is in a massive decline at the is less demand for product to start with but also they used to be cheap..but with the decline of the pound and other currencies all of a sudden there products are not so cheap. We in this country have taken early action. Other countries have all now followed and copied. Wake up and smel the coffee..this is a blobal problem, and requires global action.
I certainly am neither of those.........are you? :wink:
is that it...is that the best you can come back with,at least give us an explanation why you think my remark is a sweeping statement...
Quote by deancannock
I see the all so wonderful french..are so up in arms that there is now a general strike on January 29th !!!
So those people not just in it for themselves then!!!
Thank god I live in England !!

The discontentment is starting to show...
Quote by Mr-Powers

A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Are you really agreeing that EVERY country is " fucked "? I do not think so. This country is for sure, but then again it has been for the best part of 30 years. wink
Are you realy that nieve or stupid as to think this is not a worldwide problem..and that every country in the world is not suffering. The problems we encounter at the moment, eminate out of America. Remember the old saying America sneezes and we all get a cold.....well America right now has a bad bout of flu !! Just take a look at our of so close neighbours france roiting in the streets because if the job losses. unemployment there likely to be 35% of the population soon !! China is in a massive decline at the is less demand for product to start with but also they used to be cheap..but with the decline of the pound and other currencies all of a sudden there products are not so cheap. We in this country have taken early action. Other countries have all now followed and copied. Wake up and smel the coffee..this is a blobal problem, and requires global action.
I certainly am neither of those.........are you? :wink:
is that it...is that the best you can come back with,at least give us an explanation why you think my remark is a sweeping statement...
So YOU stated that EVERY country was " fucked ". Well is Dubai.....or Saudi Arabia. What about South Africa?
I am sure I can find a country that is doing just fine, if I looked properly. When you say " fucked ", in what terms are you using? Is that finacially or socially, or just in general?
Quote by deancannock
I see the all so wonderful french..are so up in arms that there is now a general strike on January 29th !!!
So those people not just in it for themselves then!!!
Thank god I live in England !!

See this is why I admire the French ......can you imagine this country participating in the political process en masse ? We'd much rather sit back and whine.
vive la France
vive le revolution
Quote by kentswingers777

A bit of a sweeping statement.

It's a true sweeping statement though!!!! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Are you really agreeing that EVERY country is " fucked "? I do not think so. This country is for sure, but then again it has been for the best part of 30 years. wink
Are you realy that nieve or stupid as to think this is not a worldwide problem..and that every country in the world is not suffering. The problems we encounter at the moment, eminate out of America. Remember the old saying America sneezes and we all get a cold.....well America right now has a bad bout of flu !! Just take a look at our of so close neighbours france roiting in the streets because if the job losses. unemployment there likely to be 35% of the population soon !! China is in a massive decline at the is less demand for product to start with but also they used to be cheap..but with the decline of the pound and other currencies all of a sudden there products are not so cheap. We in this country have taken early action. Other countries have all now followed and copied. Wake up and smel the coffee..this is a blobal problem, and requires global action.
I certainly am neither of those.........are you? :wink:
is that it...is that the best you can come back with,at least give us an explanation why you think my remark is a sweeping statement...
So YOU stated that EVERY country was " fucked ". Well is Dubai.....or Saudi Arabia. What about South Africa?
I am sure I can find a country that is doing just fine, if I looked properly. When you say " fucked ", in what terms are you using? Is that finacially or socially, or just in general?
of course countries like Dubai and Saudi Arabia will be affected...they may have oil...but they have invested alot of money into property aswell...who is going to buy their lush penthouse flats,stay in their expensive hotels if the likes of america and europe can't afford them?
it's the knock on affect!
Taken from a finacial bit of a newspaper
The Dubai Financial Market has lost nearly 70 percent of its value since the summer. Leading that loss have been real estate companies. Dubai's Emaar Properties, builder of the soon-to-be tallest building in the world, the Burj Dubai, has lost 75 percent of its value since January on Dubai's exchange.
The real estate industry, including construction, makes up an estimated 30 percent of Dubai's economy. Apartment and villa prices in Dubai, on average, had doubled since the beginning of January 2007. But now real estate agents like Jean-Pierre Sedaghat say some premier property prices have dropped as much as 50 percent.
Taken from a S African rag
South Africa's government wants to attract ten million foreign visitors a year in the run up to the World Cup which is being held in South Africa for the first time.
Lower house prices are expected as the credit crunch starts to have an effect, according to South Africa's Standard Bank. In 2005 South Africa was one of the fastest growing property markets in the world. But now analysts believe recent overvaluation means it cannot go unaffected by global economic conditions.
'We anticipate a large decline in demand for residential property as we enter a period of national house price deflation which we see as a correction in house prices to more plausible levels,' a spokesman said.
'This trend will be exacerbated by rising inflation and higher interest rates in an environment of record high household indebtedness,' he added.
Daily Tribune (New York Times)
CAIRO, Egypt: The Gulf Arab nations' vast oil wealth has not fully insulated them from the global financial crisis as new data shows bank lending to the Saudi Arabian private sector recorded its lowest monthly rise in at least a year and growth in the country's money supply fanned inflation fears.
The Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency underscored in its latest monthly report that the Arab world's largest economy is starting to feel the pinch from the global liquidity crisis that has ravaged Wall Street
I feel a little petty trying to prove the point about the GLOBAL financial crisis but I think you'll find that although some nations are better suited to weather the times ahead - all are affected and its quite strange how similar the news reads whichever country your reading about.
I'm really not sure what substance(s) some of you are on but let me say this..
I have fought against Socialism and Governance by a Labour led administration since I joined the Conservatives at the age of 18. That, and that alone, is my clear motive for what is described by others as an "anti-British" campaign.
The fact I now live in France (which is essentially a socialist, Catholic Country) has nothing whatsoever to do with me abhorring the Commissar Brown and his feeble machinations at saving the world from financial crisis whilst at the same time selling the people of Britain a dead donkey.
It's true - I do like France and it's people; and why not? They stand by their principles, have the balls to voice their opinions in the streets and provide a constant reminder to their politicians about who put them there in the first place - not like the "whinging poms" as the Australians so aptly describe us who kow tow to idiots like Bliar and Borrown who's only interest is their self interest.
Oh yes, I forgot; the people of Britain are not allowed by law to voice their opinions outside Parliament any more are they..
The so called "General Strike" in France didn't really happen in the way described (even hoped for) by some of my critics in this and earlier threads.
Taking to the streets in the way they did, the French put their President on notice that he must put the people of France first. That is their way. There were no "lightening" strikes so common in the UK. Everyone knew well in advance what was going on. Dead bodies were not stacking up in the streets of France nor was the rubbish piled high on street corners like it was in the winter of discontent in the UK (under a previous Labour government of course). Our rubbish was collected and our post delivered on time as per normal on that day.
The people of Britain are now hamstrung by their debt culture. The people of France have always had a view that if you can't afford it, don't have it. Of course there is recession in France like everywhere else in Europe but since the ordinary Frenchman in the street has nothing like the debt of his equivalent British brother, the French will come out of this stronger and more quickly than the UK under Borrown. The French are sharing their jobs, taking lower pay, in order to avoid total redundancies whereas in wonderful Britain it's every man for himself and fuck the rest of them!
It's true. I am fortunate in that I managed to sell my property (debt) interests in the UK a year ago before this almighty mess took hold. I still lost a considerable amount of (perceived but not realisable) personal wealth but I am now debt free and in a better personal position to ride the storm.
I'm an Englishman abroad; I respect my host Country and it's values but I also respect the right of those remaining in my Country (including my family) to hold the views they do.
It's a pity some of you are too arrogant to see the wood for the trees.
Rant over!
Quote by GnV
I'm really not sure what substance(s) some of you are on but let me say this..
I have fought against Socialism and Governance by a Labour led administration since I joined the Conservatives at the age of 18. That, and that alone, is my clear motive for what is described by others as an "anti-British" campaign.
The fact I now live in France (which is essentially a socialist, Catholic Country) has nothing whatsoever to do with me abhorring the Commissar Brown and his feeble machinations at saving the world from financial crisis whilst at the same time selling the people of Britain a dead donkey.
It's true - I do like France and it's people; and why not? They stand by their principles, have the balls to voice their opinions in the streets and provide a constant reminder to their politicians about who put them there in the first place - not like the "whinging poms" as the Australians so aptly describe us who kow tow to idiots like Bliar and Borrown who's only interest is their self interest.
Oh yes, I forgot; the people of Britain are not allowed by law to voice their opinions outside Parliament any more are they..
The so called "General Strike" in France didn't really happen in the way described (even hoped for) by some of my critics in this and earlier threads.
Taking to the streets in the way they did, the French put their President on notice that he must put the people of France first. That is their way. There were no "lightening" strikes so common in the UK. Everyone knew well in advance what was going on. Dead bodies were not stacking up in the streets of France nor was the rubbish piled high on street corners like it was in the winter of discontent in the UK (under a previous Labour government of course). Our rubbish was collected and our post delivered on time as per normal on that day.
The people of Britain are now hamstrung by their debt culture. The people of France have always had a view that if you can't afford it, don't have it. Of course there is recession in France like everywhere else in Europe but since the ordinary Frenchman in the street has nothing like the debt of his equivalent British brother, the French will come out of this stronger and more quickly than the UK under Borrown. The French are sharing their jobs, taking lower pay, in order to avoid total redundancies whereas in wonderful Britain it's every man for himself and fuck the rest of them!
It's true. I am fortunate in that I managed to sell my property (debt) interests in the UK a year ago before this almighty mess took hold. I still lost a considerable amount of (perceived but not realisable) personal wealth but I am now debt free and in a better personal position to ride the storm.
I'm an Englishman abroad; I respect my host Country and it's values but I also respect the right of those remaining in my Country (including my family) to hold the views they do.
It's a pity some of you are too arrogant to see the wood for the trees.
Rant over!

That is nearly true. I cant seem to say anything anymore, or I am accused of being any " ist " you want to name.
I wonder how many " ists " there are now? I will start one off.....ageist..........next.
I still have freedom of speech here, but I tell you what, it is getting less and less of a " right " to speak openly.
The rich in Saudi and South Africa continue to do very well.
the rich anywhere continue to do well
Maybe we can all agree that there is no perfect country - except perhaps in our childhood memories.
And having a 'my country is better than yours because - - - - ' competition is just plain childish.
You can come up with ANYTHING you like or do not like about a country and someone else can counter it.
And keeping going is an exercise in futility.