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If she wants a boat let her buy her own
No thanks Blue I'll save my donations for those who need them
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Buying the Queen a new yacht
No thanks Blue I'll save my donations for those who need them
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If she wants a boat let her buy her own
No thanks Blue I'll save my donations for those who need them
Maybe the Bluefish family reunion fund
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If she wants a boat let her buy her own
can you show me anywhere at all where she has said she wants a boat?
i am sure that if she wanted one that badly she could indeed afford her own boat. it is merely a way of showing the coutries gratitude for 60 years of service to it, call it a royal gold watch.:thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by starlightcouple
If she wants a boat let her buy her own
can you show me anywhere at all where she has said she wants a boat?
i am sure that if she wanted one that badly she could indeed afford her own boat. it is merely a way of showing the coutries gratitude for 60 years of service to it, call it a royal gold watch.:thumbup:
So what's wrong with a gold watch ??? Why in these times of austerity (we're all in this together remember) spend 60 million when 60 quid would do .... it's the thought that counts after all
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If she wants a boat let her buy her own
can you show me anywhere at all where she has said she wants a boat?
i am sure that if she wanted one that badly she could indeed afford her own boat. it is merely a way of showing the coutries gratitude for 60 years of service to it, call it a royal gold watch.:thumbup:
So what's wrong with a gold watch ??? Why in these times of austerity (we're all in this together remember) spend 60 million when 60 quid would do .... it's the thought that counts after all
As long as it does not come out of taxes, then what problem is there, think of the employment this would create
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
If she wants a boat let her buy her own
can you show me anywhere at all where she has said she wants a boat?
i am sure that if she wanted one that badly she could indeed afford her own boat. it is merely a way of showing the coutries gratitude for 60 years of service to it, call it a royal gold watch.:thumbup:
So what's wrong with a gold watch ??? Why in these times of austerity (we're all in this together remember) spend 60 million when 60 quid would do .... it's the thought that counts after all
As long as it does not come out of taxes, then what problem is there, think of the employment this would create
And do you really honestly think that it wouldn't end up being funded by us in one way or another ??
How do you think these 'subscriptions' will come about ?? Do you honestly think business and private wealthy individuals will not pass on the cost to their consumers ??
I have absolutely no problem with the British ship building industry gaining commissions and increasing it's workforce and I have absolutely no belief that any privately funded royal yacht would be built in this country
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
And do you really honestly think that it wouldn't end up being funded by us in one way or another ??
How do you think these 'subscriptions' will come about ?? Do you honestly think business and private wealthy individuals will not pass on the cost to their consumers ??
I have absolutely no problem with the British ship building industry gaining commissions and increasing it's workforce and I have absolutely no belief that any privately funded royal yacht would be built in this country
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.
Education Secretary Michael Gove had expressed his support for a new yacht as a potential gift to the Queen from the nation to mark her Diamond Jubilee.
But he was criticised for suggesting public money could be spent on it.
The Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21) involves building a ship 600ft long, to be used for trade and business events, as well as a training ship for 200 young people.
Background
During the 1990s a small group of professionals set up the Cadland Consortium to develop their concept of a large, gracious sailing ship as a successor to HMY Britannia. Their Royal Sail Training Ship (RSTS) proposals would have allowed about 2,000 young people each year, from all walks of life, to enjoy the benefits of adventure training under sail whilst at the same time assisting with national and international events.
The RSTS would have provided a secure and stately venue for Royal visits and associated industrial and commercial activities. On occasions the young people, who would have been called Queen’s Cadets, would act as young ambassadors for the UK.
There would have been no procurement cost to the Government and about £40m of the £65m build cost had been found from private sources before any other fundraising efforts. The running costs would have been found from the sponsorship of the Queen's Cadets by industry, individuals and voluntary organisations, all having demonstrated strong support for the concept.
After much deliberation the Conservative Government decided to go ahead with a conventional powered replacement for HMY Britannia, funded by the Government. When the Labour Government came to power it decided that HMY Britannia would not be replaced.
Noting the continued interest in the idea of a large national sail training ship, the Cadland Consortium decided to re-focus its ideas, initiating discussions with universities and education authorities about the overall educational benefits which could be derived from combining academic and practical studies with adventure training under sail. This had been undertaken with outstanding success on a smaller scale in other countries. They named their concept the Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21).
Education
FSP21 will offer unique opportunities to provide flexible and responsive programmes for a wide range of young people who would benefit from this style of education and activity. The FSP21 project will positively link young people between school and the world of work, school and university, university and post-graduate studies and research. Course lengths will be varied to suit the trainee, ranging from two weeks for the adventure training function through to a number of weeks for professional training, about three months for those pursuing academic studies and up to 12 months for maritime trainees.
Environment
The University of the Oceans will undertake research into the environment and health of the oceans. The scientific facilities will be used by students pursuing a variety of environmental related courses including oceanography, climate change, meteorology and fishery conservation.
The ship will also demonstrate how renewable energy resources can be used in the maritime industry. Its design will embody the spirit of the Rio ’92 Convention and incorporate not only the environmental protection requirements of the International Maritime Organisation but also all possible steps to reduce emissions to their lowest practical level. In operational terms this will achieve ‘zero emission’ for much of the lifetime of the vessel. Initially diesel electric, in the future internal and propulsion power will be generated from photovoltaics in the sails and around the hull.
Life skills
Through living, learning and working with others, participants aboard the ship will learn key life skills as well as studying academic and vocational courses. Overall the University of the Oceans will develop confidence, communication skills and promote team building.
Who benefits
The University of the Oceans will provide unique opportunities for flexible and responsive education and adventure training programmes for over 1,000 young people a year:
Those who leave school at 16.
Those continuing at school after GCSEs.
Those undertaking professional courses (NVQs, etc).
Young people from youth and cadet organisations.
Young people from industry.
Under-graduates and graduates pursuing higher degrees.
Trainees from the maritime industry.
Those who aim to work in the sail training industry
The ship will provide high quality and flexible facilities for conferences and exhibitions, which will be entirely suited to national and international events.
Hope this helps
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
And do you really honestly think that it wouldn't end up being funded by us in one way or another ??
i will wait with bated breath your evidence of this please.
not your opinion but a fact this will happen.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
So what's wrong with a gold watch ??? Why in these times of austerity (we're all in this together remember) spend 60 million when 60 quid would do .... it's the thought that counts after all
nothing wrong with a gold watch, my grandad got one for 55 yeers service. :thumbup: it was awarded for his loyal service to his company selling plastics. the queen deserves a bit more than that for representing her country not just a company. this is all conjecture as none of us know that she actualy has asked for anything.
i think our queen deserves a bit more than a gold watch. i presume that you will take this day off with pay as a bank holiday? i would hope that you would donate that money to a much better cause?
Sex God
Quote by starlightcouple
And do you really honestly think that it wouldn't end up being funded by us in one way or another ??
i will wait with bated breath your evidence of this please.
not your opinion but a fact this will happen.
No you see it is my opinion and reasonable speculation ... I assume you have concrete evidence to the contrary
Quote by starlightcouple
i think our queen deserves a bit more than a gold watch.
Why ??
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i presume that you will take this day off with pay as a bank holiday? i would hope that you would donate that money to a much better cause?
I suspect I will have no option but to take the day as holiday ... I would rather go to work and avoid what I assume will be all the attendant bullshit involved with the 'celebrations' but as my workplace will be closed that wont be an option .... why would I be donating this particular days holiday pay?? it wont be an extra day just one I'm having enforced upon me,I assume from this that you will be donating your days pay to what you consider a good cause ?? can we see the receipt please ??
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.
Education Secretary Michael Gove had expressed his support for a new yacht as a potential gift to the Queen from the nation to mark her Diamond Jubilee.
But he was criticised for suggesting public money could be spent on it.
The Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21) involves building a ship 600ft long, to be used for trade and business events, as well as a training ship for 200 young people.
Hope this helps
Can you perhaps understand why I may be a little sceptical when it comes to this governments 'pledges' on educational matters
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
No you see it is my opinion and reasonable speculation ... I assume you have concrete evidence to the contrary
i think it was you that made unfounded opinions on who is going to pay for it. how can i prove other wise when the thing has not even been built yet. you made the statement so is up to you to back those claims up with facts.:doh:
Quote by starlightcouple
i think our queen deserves a bit more than a gold watch.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Why ??
simple knowledge reely :thumbup:
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I suspect I will have no option but to take the day as holiday ...
oh you poor poor soul you :sleeping:
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I would rather go to work and avoid what I assume will be all the attendant bullshit involved with the 'celebrations' but as my workplace will be closed that wont be an option
well thats a shame then :notes: i bet you would have loved to have gone into work on a bank holiday eh
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
why would I be donating this particular days holiday pay?? it wont be an extra day just one I'm having enforced upon me,I assume from this that you will be donating your days pay to what you consider a good cause ?? can we see the receipt please ??
tell you what then. seeng as you are usually up for helping others, what about contacting a local charity in your area to help others less fortunate than yourself on that day? you are already getting paid you say and do not want to get involved with the bullshit of the " celebrations ". well you wont have to now. i am sure there are many places who would welcome your help on this day ( voluntarily of course ) seeing as you are already getting paid. give me your area and i will make a few enquiries for you :thumbup:
for the record. no i will not be donating a days pay. i wil be spending that days money on going up to london ( the greatest city on earth ) to see the boats on the thames. as bluefish said in another thred about assuming being the mother of all feck ups. some peeple do a lot of assuming in life, and others just get on with it :jagsatwork:
Sex God
Being self employed there are no such things as bank holidays
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.
Education Secretary Michael Gove had expressed his support for a new yacht as a potential gift to the Queen from the nation to mark her Diamond Jubilee.
But he was criticised for suggesting public money could be spent on it.
The Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21) involves building a ship 600ft long, to be used for trade and business events, as well as a training ship for 200 young people.
Hope this helps
Can you perhaps understand why I may be a little sceptical when it comes to this governments 'pledges' on educational matters
Try that half full glass instead
Sex God
Quote by starlightcouple
No you see it is my opinion and reasonable speculation ... I assume you have concrete evidence to the contrary
i think it was you that made unfounded opinions on who is going to pay for it.how can i prove other wise when the thing has not even been built yet. you made the statement so is up to you to back those claims up with facts.:doh:
Now that word in bold .... you do know what it means don't you
See that bit in Red .... now both you and Blue amongst others are/have asserted that the public would not be paying for any putative yacht .... Sooooooooo either you've changed your mind or you were indulging in a little of that bit in bold
Quote by starlightcouple
I would rather go to work and avoid what I assume will be all the attendant bullshit involved with the 'celebrations' but as my workplace will be closed that wont be an option
well thats a shame then :notes: i bet you would have loved to have gone into work on a bank holiday eh
You're right of course ... I would love to work on bank holiday, time and a half and a days holiday to take when I wanted ... do you think you could persuade my boss to open that day.
Quote by starlightcouple
tell you what then. seeng as you are usually up for helping others, what about contacting a local charity in your area to help others less fortunate than yourself on that day? you are already getting paid you say and do not want to get involved with the bullshit of the " celebrations ". well you wont have to now. i am sure there are many places who would welcome your help on this day ( voluntarily of course ) seeing as you are already getting paid. give me your area and i will make a few enquiries for you :thumbup:
for the record. no i will not be donating a days pay. i wil be spending that days money on going up to london ( the greatest city on earth ) to see the boats on the thames. as bluefish said in another thred about assuming being the mother of all feck ups. some peeple do a lot of assuming in life, and others just get on with it :jagsatwork:
If you can find me a charity that wont be hosting a celebration I'll be more than happy to donate my time ... I think you may struggle
Nice of you to suggest that I should donate money that you're not prepared to
Now what's that H word
:whistling::notes: Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
Try that half full glass instead
Blue it is a basic law that unless in a vacuum all glasses are always full ..... not necessarily with liquid
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Try that half full glass instead
Blue it is a basic law that unless in a vacuum all glasses are always full ..... not necessarily with liquid
That's the spirit :thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
Try that half full glass instead
Blue it is a basic law that unless in a vacuum all glasses are always full ..... not necessarily with liquid
That's the spirit :thumbup:
My preference would be for a good malt
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Now both you and Blue amongst others are/have asserted that the public would not be paying for any putative yacht ....
"There are scarce public resources. Therefore we do not think it would be appropriate to use public money at this time."
But speaking about FSP21 later, No 10 added: "This issue is, what can we do as government to support this? If there is something we can do as government to support this, we will look at this.
"We would react favourably to that."
Mr Gove said the Queen's "highly significant contribution" to Britain and the Commonwealth should be recognised with a "lasting legacy".
He wrote to Mr Hunt: "In spite, and perhaps because of the austere times, the celebration should go beyond those of previous jubilees and mark the greater achievement that the diamond anniversary represents.
"Events such as proms and the party at the palace organised for the Diamond Jubilee, and street parties, although excellent, are transient.
"It would be appropriate to do something that will mark the significance of this occasion with fitting ceremony.
"My suggestion would be a gift from the nation to Her Majesty; thinking about David Willetts's excellent suggestion of a royal yacht, and something tangible to commemorate this momentous occasion."
After criticism in the Commons over the expense of building a yacht - estimated to be £60m - Mr Gove aimed to clarify his suggestion.
He said that his letter had been quite clear that the Future Ship Project was one option "where no public funding should be provided".
Now, agreed we only have there word on this, but even so if a little public money went in, what would that hurt?
I really am surprised by the envy this idea seams to invoke in people
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
Now both you and Blue amongst others are/have asserted that the public would not be paying for any putative yacht ....
"There are scarce public resources. Therefore we do not think it would be appropriate to use public money at this time."
(snip)
Now, agreed we only have there word on this, but even so if a little public money went in, what would that hurt?
I really am surprised by the envy this idea seams to create
My point is Blue .... The money will have to come from somewhere,we are being told it wont come from taxes,fine.
Where will this money come from ??? There has been the suggestion it would be from subscription/donation from "wealthy individuals",where does their money come from ?? ... the public,follow the trail back their money comes from you and will they cover the cost of these donations they're making ?? The price of whatever commodity or service they sell will be used to cover the cost ..... who will be paying for the yacht?? the public
And most importantly of all what will they get in return ????
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
My point is Blue .... The money will have to come from somewhere,we are being told it wont come from taxes,fine.
Where will this money come from ??? There has been the suggestion it would be from subscription/donation from "wealthy individuals",where does their money come from ?? ... the public,follow the trail back their money comes from you and will they cover the cost of these donations they're making ?? The price of whatever commodity or service they sell will be used to cover the cost ..... who will be paying for the yacht?? the public
And most importantly of all what will they get in return ????
Then buy your service or commodity from the cheaper service provider who did not donate
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Try that half full glass instead
Blue it is a basic law that unless in a vacuum all glasses are always full ..... not necessarily with liquid
That's the spirit :thumbup:
My preference would be for a good malt
In the very unlikely event our paths should cross, I will buy you one of those and we could drink a toast to the Queen....... OK maybe a toast of your choice then
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Now both you and Blue amongst others are/have asserted that the public would not be paying for any putative yacht ....
"There are scarce public resources. Therefore we do not think it would be appropriate to use public money at this time."
(snip)
Now, agreed we only have there word on this, but even so if a little public money went in, what would that hurt?
I really am surprised by the envy this idea seams to create
My point is Blue .... The money will have to come from somewhere,we are being told it wont come from taxes,fine.
Where will this money come from ??? There has been the suggestion it would be from subscription/donation from "wealthy individuals",where does their money come from ?? ... the public,follow the trail back their money comes from you and will they cover the cost of these donations they're making ?? The price of whatever commodity or service they sell will be used to cover the cost ..... who will be paying for the yacht?? the public
And most importantly of all what will they get in return ????
just out of interest i`ve followed the trail but got stuck on where our money comes from
Sex God
At the end of every money trail Rob is someone making something .... I for instance print £10 notes in the kitchen
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
At the end of every money trail Rob is someone making something .... I for instance print £10 notes in the kitchen
then i would suggest you print £50's and join the capitalists
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then i would suggest you print £50's and join the capitalists
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At the end of every money trail Rob is someone making something .... I for instance print £10 notes in the kitchen
then i would suggest you print £50's and join the capitalists
:lol: :lol: Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
At the end of every money trail Rob is someone making something .... I for instance print £10 notes in the kitchen
then i would suggest you print £50's and join the capitalists
Rob that kind of social descent could ruin my reputation
