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Staggerlee_BB
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Quote by Too Hot
We are easily fooled into believing that this is all the fault of the Western Crusaders.

And I certainly never intended to suggest that it is ..... It is however naive to think that the we are innocent and American post war behaviour in the middle east leave a lot to be desired and there are grievances that run a lot deeper than the fog of religion that we're fed to cloud our judgement
Unknown User
SYRIA - Muslim v Muslim - stoked, fueled, supplied, monitored, supported, sanctioned, castagated, reported, fought by the West.
Oh and when I say Muslim v Muslim, as I see it, the conflict is part political and part ethnic Sunni v Shea
Unknown User
Quote by MidsCouple24
SYRIA - Muslim v Muslim - stoked, fueled, supplied, monitored, supported, sanctioned, castagated, reported, fought by the West.

You have concrete proof to back up those claims ?
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Thought not.
Unknown User
Quote by starlightcouple
SYRIA - Muslim v Muslim - stoked, fueled, supplied, monitored, supported, sanctioned, castagated, reported, fought by the West.

You have concrete proof to back up those claims ?
Well I don't believe all the Government claims but here are some direct quotes from British politicians
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UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said: "We have been talking about how we can help the opposition, how we can help save lives. Different countries will have different ways of doing that.
"We have to cooperate and we have to coordinate as much as possible to try to save the lives of innocent people in Syria."
He said again that the UK government had taken no decision to arm the rebels.
Foreign Secretary William Hague and counterparts from 10 other nations have agreed to "provide urgently all the necessary material and equipment" to rebels opposed to Syrian president Bashar Assad.
The UK has not committed to supply arms to the opposition but each of the 11 members of the Friends of Syria group of nations will "act in its own way" to support the rebels.
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BRITAIN is drawing up plans to send body armour, laptops and satellite phones to Syrian rebels.
The Government wants to help the bitter fight to topple tyrannical President Bashar al-Assad with "non-lethal aid", it emerged yesterday.
The equipment would be used to help coordinate attacks on regime forces.
Communications technology will also help the rebels bring down greater international pressure on isolated al-Assad by exposing his slaughter.
At least 28 people were killed and 235 wounded by two bombs at security forces' compounds in the country's second city of Aleppo yesterday.
The government blamed the bloodshed on "armed terrorist gangs".
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I can supply many similar quotes for many other Western Nations, so how is this not "stoked, fueled, supplied, monitored, supported, sanctioned, castagated, reported, fought by the West."
How can you say supplying body armour to the Syrian Rebels is not supporting their fight, how can you say that "helping to topple the current regime" is not sanctioning the rebel action, or supporting them, or castagating the current regime or any of the other things I stated.
Please now give your evidence that "no Western Power has taken any action in this conflict, that none have supplied materials to assist the "freedom fighters" or reported on the situation or supported one side or the other and therefore not stoked and fuelled the conflict ?
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Quote by MidsCouple24
Please now give your evidence that "no Western Power has taken any action in this conflict, that none have supplied materials to assist the "freedom fighters" or reported on the situation or supported one side or the other and therefore not stoked and fuelled the conflict ?

I have no evidence because there is no evidence the West has done anything yet. Yes they are talking about it, but that is as far as it goes. Has this country given anything to either the Syrian rebels or Assad? Arms? Money? You have proof they have Mids?
As a democratic and tolerant country we are watching Assad and his army bomb civilian areas from the sky with fighter planes. people apparently have been killed, and a lot of those are women and children. Should we not try to stop that atrocity?
Try and keep to the questions Mids, as you usually babble on and go off on one, and then end up with a page full of stuff and I just get bored reading it all mate.
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Please now give your evidence that "no Western Power has taken any action in this conflict, that none have supplied materials to assist the "freedom fighters" or reported on the situation or supported one side or the other and therefore not stoked and fuelled the conflict ?

I have no evidence because there is no evidence the West has done anything yet. Yes they are talking about it, but that is as far as it goes. Has this country given anything to either the Syrian rebels or Assad? Arms? Money? You have proof they have Mids?
As a democratic and tolerant country we are watching Assad and his army bomb civilian areas from the sky with fighter planes. people apparently have been killed, and a lot of those are women and children. Should we not try to stop that atrocity?
Try and keep to the questions Mids, as you usually babble on and go off on one, and then end up with a page full of stuff and I just get bored reading it all mate.
You have lost me now, earlier you questioned my statement that the West was participating in this "internal conflict/war/uprising/terrorist action/muslim v muslim action" and asked for proof that the West were taking any part of what is happening there.
Now your saying "should we not try to stop that atrocity"
What are you saying that we should ? we have ? we haven't ? we shouldn't ?
anyway so I will answer your question regards what Western Nations HAVE done (or are in the process of doing)
US prepares $130m military aid package for Syrian rebels
Secretary of state John Kerry expected to announce plans as opposition forces and international allies meet in Istanbul
, Saturday 20 April 2013 BST
John Kerry. The supplies could include armored vehicles, night vision goggles and advanced communications equipment. Photograph: Pool/Reuters
The US readied a package Saturday of up to $130m in non-lethal military aid to Syrian opposition forces while European countries consider easing an arms embargo, moves that could further pressure the government of President Bashar al-Assad.
US secretary of state John Kerry was expected to announce the plans about the defensive military supplies at a meeting Saturday that was bringing together the Syrian opposition leadership and their main international allies.
The supplies possibly could include body armor, armored vehicles, night vision goggles and advanced communications equipment.
US officials said the details and costs were to be determined at the meeting.
In truth just talking about sending military aid of any kind is going to have an affect on the conflict, the ruling Government HAVE to take into account that the West may supply the rebels and this may affect how they conduct their side of the war, it could make them seek peace talks, it could make them increase their military activity in order to end the conflict before the West can do what it is discussing, it may make them use chemical weapons now, in order to bring about a quick end to what is happening.
I am not saying the West is wrong, I am not saying they are right, I am not saying the ruling government is right or wrong, I am merely saying that the West is interfering in a muslim v muslim internal conflict, rightly or wrongly, and I would add that supplying body armour to rebels from Syria and terrorists from other Countries in Syria could have grave consequences in the future, especially as this Country is unable to supply body armour to it's own forces in suitable quantities.
After 9/11 Britain told the US that it could not assist and support anti terrorist activities in Afghanistan whilst the USA did nothing about the IRA fund raising and arms purchases taking place in the US, they said the US by way of "blind eye/don't care" tactics were aiding terrorists within the United Kingdom and the US changed their active policy towards the IRA, this Country knows that the actions of other Nations in voice or aid can have an effect so why can you not see that ?
So I say again, prove to me that the actions of the Western Nations are not affecting the Syrian conflict be that direct supply or just the discussion about supplying the Rebels. I don't see massive talks going on about supplying rebels in China or Indonesia or in some African states
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So I say again, prove to me that the actions of the Western Nations are not affecting the Syrian conflict be that direct supply or just the discussion about supplying the Rebels. I don't see massive talks going on about supplying rebels in China or Indonesia or in some African states

Mids you made a statement that the West had intervened in this conflict. Where?
How the fuck can you or me know what is affecting things inside Syria? We can only go on FACTS. You do remember what those are Mids I would presume? There is not a single shred of evidence from your argument that backs up your claims. The West and by that you mean us and the Americans have not armed a single rebel as far as I am aware. The rebels have been given no money by us as far as I know. You are merely guessing that a debate by the West is enough to influence Syria. You think Assad gives a fuck about what the West thinks? It has China on it's side and Iran. Talk as you should know is cheap. Let us see where this goes eh?
Could and if's are big words, as yet unless you can prove different the West have not intervened in this conflict except with words around a table. And you think that has made a difference inside Syria then?
Why and how? Not opinions eh Mids, but FACTS. Show me the facts that the debate has had any affect by either party. There has only been debate as yet, so that should be a easy question for you to answer.
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So I say again, prove to me that the actions of the Western Nations are not affecting the Syrian conflict be that direct supply or just the discussion about supplying the Rebels. I don't see massive talks going on about supplying rebels in China or Indonesia or in some African states

Mids you made a statement that the West had intervened in this conflict. Where?
How the fuck can you or me know what is affecting things inside Syria? We can only go on FACTS. You do remember what those are Mids I would presume? There is not a single shred of evidence from your argument that backs up your claims. The West and by that you mean us and the Americans have not armed a single rebel as far as I am aware. The rebels have been given no money by us as far as I know. You are merely guessing that a debate by the West is enough to influence Syria. You think Assad gives a fuck about what the West thinks? It has China on it's side and Iran. Talk as you should know is cheap. Let us see where this goes eh?
Could and if's are big words, as yet unless you can prove different the West have not intervened in this conflict except with words around a table. And you think that has made a difference inside Syria then?
Why and how? Not opinions eh Mids, but FACTS. Show me the facts that the debate has had any affect by either party. There has only been debate as yet, so that should be a easy question for you to answer.
Please do not swear at me, I am taking part in a debate and do not deserve to be sworn at, I am as is everyone else entitled to an opinion, I know for a FACT that you have no legal right to deprive me of that.
Assad would be a fool not to take world opinion into account, perhaps he is a fool, but he has made statements based on what the World against him is saying, he has made statemets about the UKs possible interference and about NATO and about the US, he has also made statement about the support from China and Iran.
There are your facts that talk can have an effect, if they didn't his statements would have been a dismissal of anything the West had to say on the matter.
FACT - British Citizens have died fighting for the rebels in Syria.
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Firstly was NOT swearing at YOU Mids if I was it would have been more direct. Why would I swear at you? Are you now offended by the word FUCK ?
Assad is so bothered then Mids eh? If the West threatened him would he stop his attacks on his own people? Did other countries leaders care?
Sorry Mids but you debate without knowledge or facts, just your opinion. Of course you are entitled to that as you rightly pointed out, but a fact and an opinion are two completely different things. Did you not know that?
Still last word on the subject as I watched your discussion with Max where time and time again you made yourself look a tad foolish and still you carried on. This discussion will go down the same route if I let it, and I am not going to do that Mids. You think what you like and argue to yourself, as I am outta here.
But I bet you just have to have that last word.... rolleyes
Geordiecpl2001
Sex God
In past discussions I have pulled Mids up over various "facts" which he has stated.
But in this discussion I support him 100% on his statements.
John
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Firstly was NOT swearing at YOU Mids if I was it would have been more direct. Why would I swear at you? Are you now offended by the word FUCK ?
Assad is so bothered then Mids eh? If the West threatened him would he stop his attacks on his own people? Did other countries leaders care?
Sorry Mids but you debate without knowledge or facts, just your opinion. Of course you are entitled to that as you rightly pointed out, but a fact and an opinion are two completely different things. Did you not know that?
Still last word on the subject as I watched your discussion with Max where time and time again you made yourself look a tad foolish and still you carried on. This discussion will go down the same route if I let it, and I am not going to do that Mids. You think what you like and argue to yourself, as I am outta here.
But I bet you just have to have that last word.... rolleyes

Yes nice try to end an argument that you are losing, the old "I bet you have to have the last word", but no, others may have the last word, this thread is not just about what you or I believe, perhaps I will have the last word, does that matter ?
And yes swearing for no reason does offend me, call me old school but I see no need for it and it is offensive to some, I am one of the some.
Debate is discussion is opinions is what the forums are for, I can no more prove that the Syrian Government have taken any action because of the interference/offered assistance of the West than you can prove that it hasn't, that is why people debate, to listen to other people, their views and opinions, it is not always about facts.
You say I am wrong to believe that the Syrian Government are acting in part on what the West is saying because I have no proof that they are whilst you believe yourself to be right saying that they are not considering the Wests comments/discussion/suggestions/possible intervention without any proof that they aren't, is that not a bit one sided ?
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Quote by MidsCouple24
And yes swearing for no reason does offend me, call me old school but I see no need for it and it is offensive to some, I am one of the some.

Yes of course it does Mids. Blimey you must of been offended every single day of your life then, when in the Armed forces. Don't be so silly.
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Quote by Geordiecpl2001
In past discussions I have pulled Mids up over various "facts" which he has stated.
But in this discussion I support him 100% on his statements.
John

Good for you Geordie. As Mids has stated many times, you are entitled to that opinion. Seeing as Mids has tried and failed and you agree with him, can you point me in the direction of this proof that the West have intervened in Syria?
TooHot2
Sex God
By the same token - can you prove that they have not?
Watch Live Leak and look at the weapons being used by both sides. Where are the arms coming from?...
It is a debate - when facts are so thin on the ground, it can only be about opinions and thoughts.
As for proof - there was proof of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq wasn't there?... And what happened to that proof?
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Quote by Too Hot
By the same token - can you prove that they have not?
Watch Live Leak and look at the weapons being used by both sides. Where are the arms coming from?...
It is a debate - when facts are so thin on the ground, it can only be about opinions and thoughts.
As for proof - there was proof of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq wasn't there?... And what happened to that proof?

So you are saying that it could be possible the British Government have sent arms or money to Syria in any capacity?
I never said anything at the time, it was Mids who made a statement suggesting the West were involved. I have seen nothing to back those claims up, and it is being discussed in Parliament and in Congress as to whether they should. That leads me to believe that as yet they have not sent arms or money into Syria.
Usually the media are damn good at finding things like that out, and as yet I have seen nothing written in a national newspaper on on the news channels suggesting the UK have. Have they?
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Quote by starlightcouple
In past discussions I have pulled Mids up over various "facts" which he has stated.
But in this discussion I support him 100% on his statements.
John

Good for you Geordie. As Mids has stated many times, you are entitled to that opinion. Seeing as Mids has tried and failed and you agree with him, can you point me in the direction of this proof that the West have intervened in Syria?
If it makes you happy lol and all you need to admit you are wrong that what the West has done with regards to talking about supplying the rebels with the means to overthrow Assad has had any effect on Assad's thinking is a little proof, a few FACTS.
First, reported by AlJAZEERA
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has warned against foreign military intervention in his country, in an appearance on state television.
In an interview broadcast live on Sunday, Assad said: "Any action against Syria will have greater consequences , greater than they can tolerate".
"First, because of Syria's geopolitical location and second Syrian capabilities. They know part of it but they do not know the other parts and they will not be able to afford the results," he said.
So there you go, the proof you asked for when you said
Mids you made a statement that the West had intervened in this conflict. Where?
How the fuck can you or me know what is affecting things inside Syria? We can only go on FACTS. You do remember what those are Mids I would presume? There is not a single shred of evidence from your argument that backs up your claims. The West and by that you mean us and the Americans have not armed a single rebel as far as I am aware. The rebels have been given no money by us as far as I know. You are merely guessing that a debate by the West is enough to influence Syria. You think Assad gives a fuck about what the West thinks? It has China on it's side and Iran. Talk as you should know is cheap. Let us see where this goes eh?
Could and if's are big words, as yet unless you can prove different the West have not intervened in this conflict except with words around a table. And you think that has made a difference inside Syria then?
Why and how? Not opinions eh Mids, but FACTS. Show me the facts that the debate has had any affect by either party. There has only been debate as yet, so that should be a easy question for you to answer.
Want more proof of Western intervention ?
PARIS — The European Union’s decision to lift its arms embargo on Syria, after a bitter, 13-hour debate in Brussels, is intended to put pressure on Russia and President Bashar al-Assad of Syria before peace talks scheduled in Geneva next month, with a message that the West will not allow the rebels to be defeated, senior European diplomats said Tuesday.
The decision is also intended to bolster the more Western-aligned opposition and break the perception that it is being abandoned, while the radical Islamists of Al Nusra Front and its allies continue to get support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the diplomats said.
The idea is “to change the perception of Assad that he now has time on his side, with more support from Russia, Iran and Hezbollah,” a senior European diplomat said.
The decision to let the arms embargo lapse appears to be part of a broader effort by the pro-Assad and pro-rebel sides to enter the talks in Geneva next month with a stronger hand.
The West had calculated that rebel pressure on Mr. Assad would be so great he would enter negotiations from a position of weakness. But in recent weeks, Mr. Assad’s standing has at least temporarily been shored up. That may have figured into the European decision.
“Geneva will be hard enough, but without lifting the arms embargo, it would be nothing at all,” another senior European diplomat said, speaking anonymously in line with diplomatic protocol.
Britain and France were the prime movers in strong-arming other European Union countries to let the arms embargo on Syria lapse, while other of the union’s sanctions, aimed more specifically at the Assad government, were renewed.
Part of the debate in a long meeting was to promise that neither Britain nor France would begin to deliver any arms, if they chose to do so, until the beginning of August, to allow the Geneva peace process to get traction, the officials explained.
Officials of Britain and France, which have Europe’s most advanced militaries and are members of the United Nations Security Council, argued that the arms embargo was so strict that it applied to many kinds of so-called nonlethal supplies, from gas masks to secure communication devices. They also argued that lifting it would allow more flexibility in supplies and would mean that less would have to be supplied covertly.
“This is a way to try to balance the Russian game and make it clear that the Europeans want to play ball around Geneva, but have this option open,” said Camille Grand, director of the Foundation for Strategic Research in Paris. “The message to both Assad and Moscow is that, ‘You’re not winning on all fronts, and we have a plan B that would make your military successes more difficult, that we can also play the protracted war scenario.’ ”
The jockeying, however, may scuttle the long-shot peace talks even before they get off the ground. Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia said that the European Union decision was “illegitimate in principle.”
“A number of actions that are being taken — and they are not being taken without the involvement and support of our Western partners, including the U.S. and France — intentionally or unintentionally serve to disrupt the conference,” Mr. Lavrov said, according to the Interfax news service.
The deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, in a statement called the European Union decision “a reflection of ‘double standards.’ ” Later, he said, “You cannot declare the wish to stop the bloodshed, on one hand, and continue to pump armaments into Syria,” according to Interfax.
A senior European official, told of the comment, said that Russia, which has itself been pumping arms into Syria, might “take its own words to heart.”
Mr. Ryabkov, who has been seen as collegial to Western diplomats in the nuclear talks with Iran, insisted that Russia, by contrast, was selling arms to “legitimate authorities,” not supplying rebels. He defended a plan to provide Syria with advanced S-300 air defense missiles, saying that they would be a “stabilizing factor” that could deter a Western-led intervention.
Russia, on the request of the United States, Europeans and Israel, has not yet delivered those missiles to Syria. Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon of Israel said Tuesday that if the S-300s “arrive in Syria, we will know what to do,” suggesting that would again threaten an escalation with another Israeli strike.
The Syrian opposition, meeting in Istanbul for six days, has been deeply divided and has not yet decided whether to take part in the Geneva talks, as Washington has requested. And the opposition has complained that the arms needed most — surface-to-air missiles to hit government aircraft — have been denied them by the United States and its allies, who fear their eventual use against Israel or Jordan. It is also unlikely that Britain or France would supply such weapons now or later.
Even as Europe lifted the embargo, it is increasingly hard to deliver weapons only to Western-friendly forces, critics have said.
“Given that the balance in the rebellion may have already shifted to the most radical groups, I see the decision as more of a bargaining tool with the Russians,” said Mr. Grand.
The European Union decision is also seen as another step in the “full internationalization of the Syrian war,” said George A. Lopez, a professor at Notre Dame’s Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies.
The decision also puts the focus on Washington, which has so far refused to provide arms to the rebels.
The Europeans argue that “their actions are aimed both at bolstering the rebels militarily and indicating to Assad that he cannot survive without a political agreement to end the violence,” Dr. Lopez said. But “to the chaos within Syria is now added confusion, as all eyes turn to the U.S. for its decision in the wake of this war expansion.”
That is proof that the West is intervening in the Syria conflict, that is what you asked for
More proof ?
Tony Blair argues that the Syrian conflict is no longer a civil war. Photograph: Rex Features
Britain should arm the Syrian rebels and consider imposing a no-fly zone over Syria to prevent "catastrophic consequences", Tony Blair has said.
The former prime minister said the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government and the involvement of Iran in the civil war meant intervention was necessary.
"You've got the intervention of Hezbollah, at the instigation of Iran. The other big change is the use of chemical weapons. Once you allow that to happen – and this will be the first time since Saddam used them in the 1980s – you run the risk of it then becoming an acceptable form of warfare, for both sides," he told the Times.
This week the US said it would arm Syrian rebels after claiming to have evidence that the regime of Bashar al-Assad had used chemical weapons – although it did not reveal its evidence or say when and where the weapons were used.
Discussions are under way between the US and key foreign allies over options for further intervention in the conflict, including a no-fly zone, and are likely to come to a head during the G8 summit in Northern Ireland, when Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin are scheduled to hold bilateral discussions.
Britain has urged the European Union to lift an arms embargo on the Syrian rebels but has not yet decided to transport arms.
Blair said the conflict was no longer a civil war. "We should be taking a more interventionist line. You don't have to send in troops, but the international community should think about installing no-fly zones," he said. "You've got to create the circumstances in which Assad is not able to change the balance of power within the struggle by the use of outside forces."
Blair suggested that regime change in Syria was inevitable. "People are no longer going to accept that a minority ruled the country without the say of the majority. It's exactly the arguments we went through over Iraq," he said.
He also reiterated his criticism of Iran, claiming that the transition across the Middle East was being complicated by the policies of the Islamic republic.
"It's not just trying to acquire nuclear weapons, it's trying to export an ideology and an extremism around the region. They continue to meddle in Iraq. It's a hugely destabilising force. I would be 100% more optimistic about the speed with which the region could change if that Iranian regime weren't there."
There are actually hundreds of these reports all over the internet, all proving that the West is intervening (and the East for that matter) in the Syrian conflict in the Middle East, Assad is listening to them, Assad has reacted to the talks, the threats, the calls to supply arms.
SO, WHAT SAY YOU NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE PROOF YOU ASKED FOR ?
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Sorry Mids but got down to the second paragraph and gave up.
GnV
Sex God
Tony Bliar?
Wasn't he the twat who sent British troops to war with Iraq without even a proper pair of boots to wear?
How does he feature in Syria?
Unknown User
Well for many of us, he doesn't, I mean I wouldn't take his advice but he and the media seem to think that what he has to say is newsworthy.
GnV
Sex God
Yes, just another war criminal who thinks that by becoming religious or 'finding' god, all his sins are washed away and he can kiss the world better rolleyes
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Yes, just another war criminal who thinks that by becoming religious or 'finding' god, all his sins are washed away and he can kiss the world better rolleyes

Just goes to show how mad the world is GnV, as they even made Bliar a fucking peace envoy in the Middle East FFS.
Sorry if me swearing offends you. wink
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Yes, just another war criminal who thinks that by becoming religious or 'finding' god, all his sins are washed away and he can kiss the world better rolleyes

Just goes to show how mad the world is GnV, as they even made Bliar a fucking peace envoy in the Middle East FFS.
Sorry if me swearing offends you. wink
Superb body swerve of the "Oh yes that is the proof I have been asking for and saying doesn't exist and proves I was totally wrong in what I said
and yet another post that does not answer a single question asked from a person who is always asking questions and accusing people of always avoiding answering them :moon:
loon rotflmao
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Yep ...Blair is a peace envoy and Obama was awarded the Nobel peace prize !
Seriously !! You couldn't make it up !

Yep ...Blair is a peace envoy and Obama was awarded the Nobel peace prize and starlight thinks they are right !
Seriously !! You couldn't make it up !
Unknown User
Quote by MidsCouple24
Yep ...Blair is a peace envoy and Obama was awarded the Nobel peace prize !
Seriously !! You couldn't make it up !

Yep ...Blair is a peace envoy and Obama was awarded the Nobel peace prize and starlight thinks they are right !
Seriously !! You couldn't make it up !
Where did I say they were right Mids? Show me where I said that !
You make it up as you go along. banghead
For the record Mids I think Bliar is a tosser, and one of the most ludicrous and hypocritical things I have seen is him getting to be a peace envoy whilst sending us to war on a lie. Obama the same thing for his peace prize bollocks.
So show me where I said different.
Unknown User
Yes that joke doesn't look right does it, I was not trying to say that you thought they were right but that you thought YOU were right when clearly your not lol
Unknown User
Quote by MidsCouple24
Yes that joke doesn't look right does it,

Oh sorry Mids, was that an attempt at you being funny? lol
Unknown User
Not really, more like sarcasm, you have acted as usual, demanded proof but when given the proof you seek chosen to ignore and move away from that subject, me, I get things wrong sometimes and don't have a problem admitting it, I know I am not the most intelligent person, I know I make mistakes, I know that sometimes I believe silly things, I quickly accepted your proof of Nelson Mandella's activities as a member of the ANC party. You however seem to have a problem admitting when your wrong even when you are given the evidence you ask for.
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Quote by MidsCouple24
Not really, more like sarcasm, you have acted as usual, demanded proof but when given the proof you seek chosen to ignore and move away from that subject, me, I get things wrong sometimes and don't have a problem admitting it, I know I am not the most intelligent person, I know I make mistakes, I know that sometimes I believe silly things, I quickly accepted your proof of Nelson Mandella's activities as a member of the ANC party. You however seem to have a problem admitting when your wrong even when you are given the evidence you ask for.

Was that evidence then Mids? A great indication to me of something not being true, is when there is no reference on the internet and there is not. The UK and America have NOT intervened in Syria. You can reply with a novels worth of writing, but for me there is not a jot of evidence that they have.
Your replies are too long Mids and I get bored around half way through. Keep it shorter and it may just make a little bit more sense.
Oh you do know that sarcasm is the lowest form if wit.........don't you?
Geordiecpl2001
Sex God
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Now don't think this is aimed at you Starlight, or anyone else for that matter, but a great reply to;
"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"
is
"yes, but I was using it on the lowest form of person"
John