Cat in the bin

19 Oct 2010

Quote by flower411
Maybe the RSPCA would be able to answer your reply a bit better???
Or better still look under animal cruelty !!! Must not forget the customary exclamation marks!!
Have a little read of this and get some enlightenment....

" Acts of intentional cruelty are often some of the most disturbing and should be considered signs of serious psychological problems. This type of behavior is often associated with sociopathic behavior and should be taken very seriously ".

So, a racially motivated violent assault on a woman makes you "chuckle" but a cat in a bin has got you baying for retribution !! Nice priorities !!
Maybe I think more of cats than some people eh??
In fact some cats are definatly better than some people.....see where I am coming from??
Anyway why all the exclamation marks ??
Does it fall into the same category as a question mark??
I think I actually have my priorities in exactly the right place !!!
Rock on Tommy.

19 Oct 2010

Quote by flower411

I know you love your pound of flesh Kenty, but the damage that has (rightly) been done to her reputation and standing in the community from the huge publicity associated with this case is far more effective than any fine. She will forever be known to those who know her, and many others as well, as the woman who dumped a cat in a bin.

It has nothing to do with wanting my pound of flesh...it is about what is right and proper.
Yes I am sure that she will be known as the vicious nasty cow, who dumped a friendly cat into a bin, and rightly so.
She will have to live with those consequences for years to come, so maybe that is her punishment, but just in case that does not bother her then a good heavy fine would have been in order too.
It was just a frickin cat for crying out loud !!!
No, it was somebody's cat. Someone who may have had to walk for hours round a neighborhood night after night looking for a cat. Someone who may have had to go from door to door hassling the neighbors. Someone who may have had to explain to a very upset child that ******* is missing or dead. All hypothetical but none the less possible from the actions taken.
£250 is a joke and the ban obviously just standard practice. She will be judged as we all are on anything we are known to have done and a bloody good job too considering the piddly fine biggrin

19 Oct 2010

She was probably fined according to her means to some degree. There's no point in fining someone huge amounts of money if they have no means to it. And as she's virtually unemployable at the moment £250 is quite likely a huge sum of money to her.
I agree it doesn't compensate the owners for their worry and upset but the fine isn't for compensation. They could always persue a civil case I suppose.

19 Oct 2010

Quote by vampanya
She was probably fined according to her means to some degree. There's no point in fining someone huge amounts of money if they have no means to it. And as she's virtually unemployable at the moment £250 is quite likely a huge sum of money to her.
I agree it doesn't compensate the owners for their worry and upset but the fine isn't for compensation. They could always persue a civil case I suppose.

No idea how they would value the suffering of the cat dunno

. Suppose they could go for the suffering they had when they thought the cat was missing......but no idea if that would be worth much either.
Dave_Notts

19 Oct 2010

Quote by Dave__Notts
She was probably fined according to her means to some degree. There's no point in fining someone huge amounts of money if they have no means to it. And as she's virtually unemployable at the moment £250 is quite likely a huge sum of money to her.
I agree it doesn't compensate the owners for their worry and upset but the fine isn't for compensation. They could always persue a civil case I suppose.

No idea how they would value the suffering of the cat dunno

. Suppose they could go for the suffering they had when they thought the cat was missing......but no idea if that would be worth much either.
Dave_Notts
Shock/stress from having seen the video, time off work etc. Wing anything these days ya know lol

19 Oct 2010

Quote by tweeky
She was probably fined according to her means to some degree. There's no point in fining someone huge amounts of money if they have no means to it. And as she's virtually unemployable at the moment £250 is quite likely a huge sum of money to her.
I agree it doesn't compensate the owners for their worry and upset but the fine isn't for compensation. They could always persue a civil case I suppose.

No idea how they would value the suffering of the cat dunno

. Suppose they could go for the suffering they had when they thought the cat was missing......but no idea if that would be worth much either.
Dave_Notts
Shock/stress from having seen the video, time off work etc. Wing anything these days ya know lol

You can sue for anything you like. There was a guy who sued for £200,000 for loss of sex drive after slipping on a grape. This was widely reported in the press. They failed to report that the courts kicked it out.
I suspect that the same will happen here if they try.
Dave_Notts

19 Oct 2010

It's all bonkers. She's bonkers, what she did was bonkers, having to have CCTV in your front window is bonkers, it's all bonkers.
I'm glad I'm not bonkers. wink

20 Oct 2010

Obviously my comments went right over your head.....no suprise there then.
I have always said over many years that the human race is probably the worst animal on the planet.....for many reasons.
Greed and their ability to kill for no apparent reasons.
In the animal world they usually kill for a reason, and many animals are extinct because of man.
That is one of many reasons why I prefere the animal kingdom to the human one on so many levels.
Yes I think that the burka issue and the cat issue are not the same....I felt more sorry for the cat. There now I have said it!
My right to have that opinion whatever you may think about my priorities.

20 Oct 2010

Depends much on the way you view things, these below are for the meat indutry in China

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Depends much on the way you view things, these below are for the meat indutry in China

At least these cats may be killed "humanely".
But for the fact this animal was observed to have been placed in the bin when it was, the animal may have suffered substantially more than it did and the ex bank employees actions were no less important than could be expected by someone who cares not a jot about the lives of animals or humans.

20 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
Depends much on the way you view things, these below are for the meat indutry in China

At least these cats may be killed "humanely".
But for the fact this animal was observed to have been placed in the bin when it was, the animal may have suffered substantially more than it did and the ex bank employees actions were no less important than could be expected by someone who cares not a jot about the lives of animals or humans.
The cat is still alive though which the one in the picture will not be
Not that I condone what she did, just feel it may have been some what blown out of all proportions to be honest

20 Oct 2010

but for the grace of god, and I'm agnostic....
It could just have easily died in that container...

20 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
but for the grace of god, and I'm agnostic....
It could just have easily died in that container...

Of what?
To be honest, I doubt that very much

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
but for the grace of god, and I'm agnostic....
It could just have easily died in that container...

Of what?
To be honest, I doubt that very much
Starvation, gastric distress, shock, suffocation, stress, over exertion....
I think I could think of a few more.
Would you like it?

20 Oct 2010

Blue it is not the fact the cat could or could not have died, it was the way purely out of nasty spite, she did this.
A nasty vindictive bitch.....
As for China, are they not one of the most barbaric nations on Earth?
I would not give a snap of the fingers for anyone there to be honest.
Obviously this issue boils down to whether people like cats or not it seems.
To put a cat in a bin in this manner, was foolish in the first instance, and in the second instance just downright cruel.
The courts punished her and so has the media and the public in general.
I am glad the cat was not harmed and that she has been shown to be what she is.
That cat is worth ten times more than she is.

20 Oct 2010

Some people value cat's lives more than they do human lives...
Cats are for catching mice and rats...
But I agree kenty... what she did was wrong IMO

20 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
but for the grace of god, and I'm agnostic....
It could just have easily died in that container...

Of what?
To be honest, I doubt that very much
Starvation, gastric distress, shock, suffocation, stress, over exertion....
I think I could think of a few more.
Would you like it?
Again, I doubt it
And would I like it, on balance, better than being eaten

20 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Blue it is not the fact the cat could or could not have died, it was the way purely out of nasty spite, she did this.
A nasty vindictive bitch.....
As for China, are they not one of the most barbaric nations on Earth?
I would not give a snap of the fingers for anyone there to be honest.
Obviously this issue boils down to whether people like cats or not it seems.
To put a cat in a bin in this manner, was foolish in the first instance, and in the second instance just downright cruel.
The courts punished her and so has the media and the public in general.
I am glad the cat was not harmed and that she has been shown to be what she is.
That cat is worth ten times more than she is.

Fare points Kenty and Gnv
Just feel things were over the top

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Fare points Kenty and Gnv
Just feel things were over the top

the lid was certainly over the top of the cat pmsl

20 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
Fare points Kenty and Gnv
Just feel things were over the top

the lid was certainly over the top of the cat pmsl
Hope she fully closed it or she would have been in all sorts of trouble with the council wink

Let me put it another way then, I have no problem with the law dealing with this lady, what I do not like is the death threats and vigilante style of many of the general public

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Fare points Kenty and Gnv
Just feel things were over the top

the lid was certainly over the top of the cat pmsl
Hope she fully closed it or she would have been in all sorts of trouble with the council wink

Let me put it another way then, I have no problem with the law dealing with this lady, what I do not like is the death threats and vigilante style of many of the general public

I couldnt agree with thats last statement more!

20 Oct 2010

Me too.
Animal rights protesters can go a bit over the top sometimes.

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Let me put it another way then, I have no problem with the law dealing with this lady, what I do not like is the death threats and vigilante style of many of the general public

Those are valid points.

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Depends much on the way you view things, these below are for the meat indutry in China

Everything is for the meat industry in china

20 Oct 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Depends much on the way you view things, these below are for the meat indutry in China

Everything is for the meat industry in china

21 Oct 2010

So they eat cats - we eat rabbits. What's the difference?
Animal welfare is another thing of course - a happy pig is a tasty pig. But making a distinction between eating different animals is meaningless.

21 Oct 2010

You're absolutely right Foxy. Ban on the nail. There is no difference at all.

21 Oct 2010

Quote by vampanya
You're absolutely right Foxy. Ban on the nail. There is no difference at all.

There is; rabbit tastes so much nicer when cooked slowly in a foil parcel :lol2:

21 Oct 2010

Quote by foxylady2209
So they eat cats - we eat rabbits. What's the difference?
Animal welfare is another thing of course - a happy pig is a tasty pig. But making a distinction between eating different animals is meaningless.

I disagree. In some country's they eat primates which I believe to be disgusting for a variety of reasons. Not least when I watched a program about this some years back and they interviewed a local who couldn't see the difference between a rat and chimp and why a chimp was more like a human confused

Taking it from different ends of the spectrum you have say a fish where it is debatable if the fish even knows its in pain. Then you have a gorilla or a chimp that shows 99% of human characteristics. I'll eat the fish ta and be happy with it smile

21 Oct 2010

Quote by foxylady2209
So they eat cats - we eat rabbits. What's the difference?
Animal welfare is another thing of course - a happy pig is a tasty pig. But making a distinction between eating different animals is meaningless.

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