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Now I know this is in the Daily Wail, but on a serious note this cannot be about to happen.............can it?
A massive ammount of Americans would be opposed to this, certainly so close to ground zero, where Muslim fanatics murdered nearly 3000 people.
IF this did go ahead and I for one think it will not, but if it did....has Obama lost the plot, or is he doing what he believes is right, or is he trying to appease the Muslims throughout the world?
How would the world see America? Would they see it as weak or coming to terms with their loss?
I for one think it would be very insensitive to have a Mosque so close to what has become a symbol of Americas past....a worse atrocity than Pearl Harbour,and will always be remembered as the day America stood still, as did the world on that horrific day.
The blackest day in Americas history maybe?
Well they aint stopped doing lots n lots of business with the saudis, which is where I believe Osama and most of the terrorists come from. That doesn't seem to cause much outrage in the US or elsewhere.
So why would this matter?
I thought they came from Pakistan.....
As your comment ended with one of these ? then I presume it is a question that wants an answer? Some people struggle with that one. lol
I answered my points and your question I cannot answer as I was only looking for peoples opinions, not to give answers to questions I do not have the answers too.
Fuck............that has confused the shit outta me. :twisted:
Quote by GnV
I thought they came from Pakistan.....

Most of the november 11th bombers were actually based in Germany
My comments on the same subject, on a different site:
"I see no problem with the building of a mosque on the site of the former WTC.
The media has done a fantastic job of influencing people that Muslim = terrorism, there would be less of a fuss if there were plans for a church to be built for faiths such as Christianity, RC etc.
I personally feel the site should be a permanent tribute to the day the world changed, a permanent reminder to a country that funded a significant amount of terrorism throughout the years that it does happen, not out of sight and out of mind, but on it's own doorstep."
Not all those that died in the world trade centre were white christian Americans....it is typical of the American media to ignore this and insist only white christian American memorials should be allowed
By American media I am of course referring to the reactionary right wing likes of fox news...I am sure there are more reasonable voices in their media...it is a shame we rarely hear them
Look it up--Saudis.
Oh and I apologise for causing confusing it was a rhetorical question.
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Now I know this is in the Daily Wail, but on a serious note this cannot be about to happen.............can it?
A massive ammount of Americans would be opposed to this, certainly so close to ground zero, where Muslim fanatics murdered nearly 3000 people.
IF this did go ahead and I for one think it will not, but if it did....has Obama lost the plot, or is he doing what he believes is right, or is he trying to appease the Muslims throughout the world?
How would the world see America? Would they see it as weak or coming to terms with their loss?
I for one think it would be very insensitive to have a Mosque so close to what has become a symbol of Americas past....a worse atrocity than Pearl Harbour,and will always be remembered as the day America stood still, as did the world on that horrific day.
The blackest day in Americas history maybe?
kenty, 8 members of the 9/11 commision (out of ten) now say they were misled and now no longer believe the evidence that was put before them.
"muslim fanatics murdered nearly 3000 people" did they ? allegedly 18 saudi's and one kuwati hi-jacked 4 american aeroplanes, flew them into the north tower, the south tower, the pentagon and overpowered by passengers crashed another into the ground. they know this because the green saudi passport of the lead hi-jacker, mohammed atta, was found at ground zero !
worst atrocity against america since pearl harbour. correct. read "the grand chessboard" by zibznew brezinski published in 1997 and obviously written before that. all will be revealed about american primacy, a staged event on the scale of PEAL HARBOUR, the war on terror and the invasions and occupations of iraq, afghanistan, uzbekistan, georgia, pakistan and IRAN !
brezinski was an adviser to ronald regan, member of the trilateral commision, member of the council on foreign relations and a member of the bilderberg group. he is now a foreign relations advisor to barry sorrento (aka barrack hussein obama).
building a mosque at ground zero is a diversion and a staged provocation for the halfwits that still believe in the myth of the FEARsome "al quader" led by the unaging cia backed turncoat "osama bin liner"
looks like the man behind the curtain to me but i'm just a con spiracy theorist but i am suprised by the man who saw straight through the climate change conspiracy to bring in a worldwide carbon tax.
even if you and many others on here not only disbelieve what i am saying, but find it too incredible, buy the book and read it. you will find that the events of the past 9 years follow events and policies in that book precisely. how uncanny. the time is now to awaken. regards.
Typical Daily Hate only reporting what it deems to be relevant and not the whole story. I saw this mentioned on TV last week and the BBC report said that there has been a mosque on that site for years. Long before 9/11. The building work is to rebuild/renovate the existing mosque not to build a brand new one.
20 years ago it was "reds under the bed" now it's muslims = terrorists. The Daily Hate is no stranger to scare-mongering.
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Typical Daily Hate only reporting what it deems to be relevant and not the whole story. I saw this mentioned on TV last week and the BBC report said that there has been a mosque on that site for years. Long before 9/11. The building work is to rebuild/renovate the existing mosque not to build a brand new one.
20 years ago it was "reds under the bed" now it's muslims = terrorists. The Daily Hate is no stranger to scare-mongering.

Sorry that is a new one on me my friend....I will not Google that as I believe the BBC report COULD be true, but then again they are not really impartial, are they?
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"muslim fanatics murdered nearly 3000 people" did they ?

I think you find they did Guls.
But some credence could well be true in your comments, but would be almost impossible to prove, and it would take more than an author of a book to prove otherwise.
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It`s being widely reported that this site is already a place of Muslim worship and the work to be carried out is necessary because of damage sustained from aircraft debris in the twin towers attack.

All I had stated was that I had not heard of this.
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This whole thread is just another example of misinformation being put about to fuel religious hatred and is allowed to continue unchecked on these forums.

Oh the moral Guardian of SH now?:giggle:
I think you will find that any religious hatred being peddled on this site, would surely be dealt with by the site owners. As it is not then I would presume that it is only certain people who think this way.
The same people who spouted about people being racist everytime immigration was brought up, until the powers that be said it was not racist to talk about such matters....ring any bells?
The thread is not about religious hatred at all, but obviously you see it that way, and of course that is your right to do so. Me I had not heard of a Mosque at that site as I made very clear in my reply.
Can you explain how you see this as religious hatred, as I am at a loss to see where this is coming from.
We do not have threads or newspaper articles about catholic churches being built or renovated next to primary schools in the light of the church child abuse scandals. Indeed I don't think I have seen any articles pointing out that members of this religious institution are still responsible for the governance of many primary schools in the UK.
That would be ridiculous wouldn't it? (A rhetorical question.)
Why is this any different? (A rhetorical question.)
Why do the media and the threads in here constantly pick on the moslems? ( A real question)
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The fact is over 300 muslims died on 9/11

True but nearly 2700 others who were not.
I think the American people in general will not tolerate this....I could be wrong though.
Anybody else want to tell me why the moslems make the papers but the catholics dont?
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Anybody else want to tell me why the moslems make the papers but the catholics dont?

Possibly because extreme believers in that religion are the most recent group to commit mass murder in either the UK or the US? I'm sure it'll make the news if Sister Wendy stops ogling renaissance willies and picks up a bazooka lol
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Anybody else want to tell me why the moslems make the papers but the catholics dont?

Haven't seen many Catholic suicide bombers around.... dunno
Or Catholics that wear the burqa.
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No answers here then.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
No answers here then.

I saw at least 3... you having problems finding your glasses again Ben?
Not from those whose opinion I sought---the posters of the moslem bullshit in particular.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Not from those whose opinion I sought---the posters of the moslem bullshit in particular.

It's never really clear whose opinions you are ever seeking to be honest...
I think he does a brilliant job of baffling himself, all on his own. lol
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No answers here then.

it`s odd bengy you never verify your own opinion but demand others verify there`s
but given it's a forum and its owned by someone else ,it means you cant pick up the ball and walk of the park with it
i kinda like this place wink
What do you mean by verify my opinion.
I am surprised nobody is prepared to defend the allegation that this nothing more than yet another**** bashing thread.
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Quote by Ben_welshminx
What do you mean by verify my opinion.
I am surprised nobody is prepared to defend the allegation that this nothing more than yet another **** bashing thread.

Are so called " ***** " the only Muslims then?
Have a little gander at this little Google, it may well enlighten you to know that Pakinstan does not even equate on the scale.

You continually ask others to verify what they mean to get a responce, so I am asking you to verify your "**** " comment?
Or do you think that all Muslims come from Pakistan?loon
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lol kaz
Quote by Ben_welshminx
What do you mean by verify my opinion.
I am surprised nobody is prepared to defend the allegation that this nothing more than yet another bashing thread.

bengy you make a few provocative remarks (other wise known as trolling )
when questioned or asked to explain you go silent or ignore the question
to say something idiotic is excusable but to stay silent is proof wink