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'Gaydar'?
I'm a bit sceptical about this really. No, in fact I am more than sceptical. I don't think they do. but according to the Telegraph ...

I'm a bloke and I know I cant unless a guys mincing around in drag shouting "I'm gay I'm gay I'm gay" but that ain't happened as yet. smile
yes we do, well some do, and some dont, same as some men do and some men dont lol
Have to say that in a real life situation, a few times I have picked up on colleagues who are gay/bi where it has not been openly obvious, but a friend/colleague also picked up on me being bi, and she does not even know we swing wink
yes we do, well some do, and some dont, same as some men do and some men dont lol
Have to say that in a real life situation, a few times I have picked up on colleagues who are gay/bi where it has not been openly obvious, but a friend/colleague also picked up on me being bi, and she does not even know we swing wink[/quot)
Blimey a Bidar as well - Holy shamoly I must of missed out big time in the intuition stakes. In saying that Mrs Lost tends to attract bi/gay women without knowing how herself, even though I have told her that she flirts far more with women than she does men even though she loves men. I reckon its possible because she doesn't have to flirt with men as much to get the same attention as with a woman.
Awww bugger I dunnon but I'm still sceptical :lol:
I think I do - I spot gay but I don't know if I miss a load more. biggrin I tend not to be surprised, put it that way.
I can kind of tell gay men from straight and gay women stand out a mile off. Bi, no so easily.
On a similar not, are any of you men out there like me in that you are almost completely unable to tell whether a bloke is physically attractive or not? Aside from the obvious Brad Pitt's of the world, I have no idea whether women or men would find another guy attractive just by looking at them. It makes it really hard for me to judge whether people might find me attractive or stylish or neither.
the only gaydar is the one crocodile dundee uses.
if in doubt do the dundee check. works everytime lol
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yes we do, well some do, and some dont, same as some men do and some men dont lol
Have to say that in a real life situation, a few times I have picked up on colleagues who are gay/bi where it has not been openly obvious, but a friend/colleague also picked up on me being bi, and she does not even know we swing wink

Not difficult with that constant silly grin on your face :grin:
Are you really that good at spotting sexual orientation ? or do you just think your good.
In this scene it is much easier because such a high % of women are bisexual, probably around 98%, so few in swinging are gay.
With men the % is lower but it has to be between 30 and 40% of men being bisexual and as with the women few being gay.
Now many gay men and women are easy to spot by thier mannerisms but this test was carried out with only face pictures not even hairstyles showing, how well do you think you would score on spotting gay people then ?
If you went to a Greenhouse (gay saunas owned by the same Company that owns Chameleons and located in 3 areas of the Country, how many men do you think you could you identify as being Gay as opposed to bisexual ?
The next test, go to Tesco's or Asda and how many people do you think you could identify into the brackets of Gay or bisexual either as males or females ?
And finally get someone to gather 100 pictures from the internet where thier sexuality is known and have them crop them to face only pics, see how you do in the experiment.
Yes I believe Gaydar exists in equal proportions with both men and women having the ability but would be surprised that it is so accurate when based only on facial pictures
It is a bit of a daft test really... When do you ever first lay eyes on someone as a face only (other than in tests like this)? most photos of people have more than just a face, but the reality is most (or at least everyone I've met...) people are slightly more animated than a single-frame snapshot...
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It is a bit of a daft test really... When do you ever first lay eyes on someone as a face only (other than in tests like this)? most photos of people have more than just a face, but the reality is most (or at least everyone I've met...) people are slightly more animated than a single-frame snapshot...

But that is the point of the test, we all know that mannerisms can tell us much about people, we know that some gay women can be "masculine" in thier looks or dress code and that some gay men can be effminate and flambouyant in thier everyday mannerism so you don't really need gaydar to spot some peoples sexuallity but if this test is true it is proving that there is something more to it than dress, make-up, mannerism, hairstyles etc. Personally I think the test would have to be carried out on a much bigger scale that is has been so far for anyone to be able to make the claims they have.
Many people here in the forum where quick to agree that gaydar exists but not many have said they would have the same gaydar under the test conditions.
think we as humans see what we want to see. sometimes it is obvious and sometimes it is not.
i wonder how much money it cost for these scientists to discover this nonsense.
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think we as humans see what we want to see. sometimes it is obvious and sometimes it is not.
i wonder how much money it cost for these scientists to discover this nonsense.

And who funded it..".
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think we as humans see what we want to see. sometimes it is obvious and sometimes it is not.
i wonder how much money it cost for these scientists to discover this nonsense.

And who funded it..".
well this nonsense spawned from the university of washington. i did think this nonsense could either be from the uk or the USA. no suprises then.
if you have a little browse around the website GNV, you will find a whole lot of invaluable nonsense as well.

how a scientist is involved with this uni i have no idea, but do a search on the website for the writer of this nonsense and it comes up with,,,,,nothing loon
in answer to your question though GNV, i would presume the american tax payer, better than it being the british taxpayer though i suppose.
i am sure though that there are british equivalents doing the same things from our tax money right now.
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in answer to your question though GNV, i would presume the american tax payer, better than it being the british taxpayer though i suppose.

i am sure though that there are british equivalents doing the same things from our tax money right now.

The States is still one of the British Colonies isn't it?
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in answer to your question though GNV, i would presume the american tax payer, better than it being the british taxpayer though i suppose.

i am sure though that there are british equivalents doing the same things from our tax money right now.

The States is still one of the British Colonies isn't it?
not anymore, they bought their freedom...
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think we as humans see what we want to see. sometimes it is obvious and sometimes it is not.
i wonder how much money it cost for these scientists to discover this nonsense.

And who funded it..".
But will time prove it to be a waste of funds/taxes ?
ANTONOV
Scientists many years ago spent a fortune studlying the humble bumble bee, the final results proved that aerodynamically speaking it was impossible for the bumble bee to fly, that fact was used by many aircraft designers to rethink how aircraft design and weight to wing to power ratios.
and the Antonov heavy lift aircraft was born .......
Trouble is that is with hindsight, and there are Billions spent around the world on research that will never give us any value in return to cost.
Take the millions of dollars the USA (NASA) spent in the early days of space travel developing a pen that could write in the weightless atmosphere created in spacecraft, huge funds and times went into the research and development of such a pen and they did finally achieve thier goal, a pen that could pump ink and write in a weightless environment, fantastic, and they proudly announced thier achievement to the world, and the Russian space agency quickly replied with
We use a Pencil
lol
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but a friend/colleague also picked up on me being bi, and she does not even know we swing wink

You're bi, I never knew :doh:
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Take the millions of dollars the USA (NASA) spent in the early days of space travel developing a pen that could write in the weightless atmosphere created in spacecraft, huge funds and times went into the research and development of such a pen and they did finally achieve thier goal, a pen that could pump ink and write in a weightless environment, fantastic, and they proudly announced thier achievement to the world, and the Russian space agency quickly replied with
We use a Pencil
lol

Total urban myth.
NASA Astronauts used pencils just like the Russian Cosmonauts, however the tips of graphite would break off and float around in zero g...imagine that getting in the circuitry...not good.
So NASA developed the "space pen" a pressurised, hermetically sealed, thixotropic liquid ink delivery system, Russian promptly bough 100 units to replace their pencils and both space agencies adopted the technology.
NASA researched and developed it, Russia bought it.
Take the millions of dollars the USA (NASA) spent in the early days of space travel developing a pen that could write in the weightless atmosphere created in spacecraft, huge funds and times went into the research and development of such a pen and they did finally achieve thier goal, a pen that could pump ink and write in a weightless environment, fantastic, and they proudly announced thier achievement to the world, and the Russian space agency quickly replied with
Also I have heard it said that much of the impetus for the development of Digital Integrated Circuits in the US arose due to the requirements of NASA for the Apollo program. This then lead to a new industry that benefited American tax payer far more than the initial investment.
I guess pure research is a bit like swinging. After a bit of thinking, you gamble the money, time and effort, enjoy the gamble at the time, and anything else is a bonus.
But I like urban myths they are such fun why do people insist on breaking the bubbles.
The space projects research has brought us an awfull lot though, the funds available to make products needed by NASA were a lot more that those that would have been available to develop certain products/
Take the humble sink, ICI were tasked with making a product for NASA that was very heat resistant and could be shaped as required.
The came up with what they trademarm called Asterite, a mixture of sand and silicones that when hot can be moulded and when cold was as near tough as granite, wether the stuff was ever used for the space project I don't know but because of its possibilities in the project the research funds were made available, once the product was known ICI search for other uses that it can be used for besides flying through space, and hey presto we have what looks like a plastic sink that is heat and scratch resistant beyond most existing products of the time.
I remember an old advert on TV that listed products that we use everyday that were developed using space project research funding and the list was pretty amazing.
My wonder at the space project now is ...... have we gone far enough, the ability to put satellites into orbit has made amazing differences to the planet (for example we have a thing called the internet) but is travelling to mars and jupiter going to give us anymore ? would we now be better off putting that research time and funds into checking out what is here on earth, or more importantly inside it, under the sea, we know there are vast resources still untouched, coal, gas, precious metals etc, many are just too expensive to mine at this time but with new developments perhaps we could put an end to resource shortages pretty soon, maybe we can develop underwater farms in areas where the sea is abundant but drought is rife, maybe it is time to put that NASA money into checking out our own unxeplored and undiscovered planet.
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Take the millions of dollars the USA (NASA) spent in the early days of space travel developing a pen that could write in the weightless atmosphere created in spacecraft, huge funds and times went into the research and development of such a pen and they did finally achieve thier goal, a pen that could pump ink and write in a weightless environment, fantastic, and they proudly announced thier achievement to the world, and the Russian space agency quickly replied with
We use a Pencil
lol

Total urban myth.
NASA Astronauts used pencils just like the Russian Cosmonauts, however the tips of graphite would break off and float around in zero g...imagine that getting in the circuitry...not good.
So NASA developed the "space pen" a pressurised, hermetically sealed, thixotropic liquid ink delivery system, Russian promptly bough 100 units to replace their pencils and both space agencies adopted the technology.
NASA researched and developed it, Russia bought it.
A normal biro works in space .... no special pens required
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A normal biro works in space .... no special pens required

Are you referring to the generic 'biro' or the specific?
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A normal biro works in space .... no special pens required

Are you referring to the generic 'biro' or the specific?
Generic .... God forbid I should be accused of advertising
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A normal biro works in space .... no special pens required

Are you referring to the generic 'biro' or the specific?
Generic .... God forbid I should be accused of advertising
Oh my, who would dare!
I'm not so sure the generic (and thus modern) version would work in space but the writing implement to which the original designer put his name might have, given it's unique design features...
As I understand it a ballpoint pen is not dependent on gravity to function,however when placed upside down gravity may well prevent it from functioning ... in space gravity is not a factor
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As I understand it a ballpoint pen is not dependent on gravity to function,however when placed upside down gravity may well prevent it from functioning ... in space gravity is not a factor

a ballpoint pen or a non generic biro?
Which are we talking about now?
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Are you really that good at spotting sexual orientation ? or do you just think your good.
.....
If you went to a Greenhouse (gay saunas owned by the same Company that owns Chameleons and located in 3 areas of the Country, how many men do you think you could you identify as being Gay as opposed to bisexual ?
.....
Yes I believe Gaydar exists in equal proportions with both men and women having the ability but would be surprised that it is so accurate when based only on facial pictures

My gaydar is spot on, every time, no worries. Also I have been to the Greenhouse as it happens before I got together with Kay.
I was going to a BBW meet for the first time at Chameleons and phoned to book a room. As Chameleons was fully booked the folks at the other end kindly suggested that I stay at the Greenhouse instead. Duly provided with the telephone number I phoned up and booked a room. Before phoning I had thought it was just a B&B, but they mentioned towels during the call so I assumed it was another swinging club. Oh well I thought in for a penny ......
Having traveled down to Darlaston I found the Greenhouse, checked in, and left my bags in the room. Rooms at the Greenhouse by the way are in chalets at the back and separate to the main complex. I then walked back to the reception area in the main building to ask for a taxi down to Chameleons.
Having ordered the Taxi the male receptionist suggested that I might like to go and wait in the main bar. I did think this a bit strange at the time as the Taxi was due in a couple of minutes. But anyway I walked down to the main bar area.
As I sat down in the bar area I looked up this was the point my Gaydar kicked in, I think it was largely the gay ambiance of the bar, but then again it could just have been the enormous sign which read 'Gay Sauna 2009'.
Gaydar now fully alerting me I said 'OH I'm in a Gay Sauna'....
At which point the receptionist (who must have timed the whole thing to perfection) appeared and said 'That's right babe you are quite safe here there are absolutely no women'. I guess the fact that both of the receptionists were very very camp, and had consistently called be either of 'hun' or 'babe' should have suggested something earlier, but you knows it's not all that gay, errm is it?
Now then I confess to some nerves about going to Chameleons in the first place, but by the time I had inadvertently checked into a Gay Sauna, getting the Taxi to Chameleons was just not a problem.
This would be the end of this story, but having arrived at the BBW meet and having explained my predicament. One of the sweetest BBW's very kindly offered to come back and stay with me at the Greenhouse. What a babe! Sadly she spoiled the whole thing by adding 'to hold my cheeks for all cummers'. Scratch babe, total bitch! (Without starting another story, she is one of the most friendly and funniest ladies I have met on this site and would consider bitch a compliment)
Oh yes my unfailing Gaydar goes by another name 'Kay'. Just one of the many reasons for getting hitched smile.
It is not often I enjoy stories of other peoples experiences, but knowing the Greenhouse very well (and yes I am straight but have visited the club many times) and knowing the staff and the layout of the bar etc, I could picture your whole experience and thoroughly enjoyed reading this one smile
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Which reminds me, on my visits to the Greenhouse Gay Sauna I did see quite a few guys I knew from Chameleons and none of whom I had realised (or cared) where bisexual at Chameleons though I hadn't given it a thought neither did any Gaydar make me think they might be bisexual, and of the other members in the club at various times there were some that were obviously gay (camp) but for the most part there was no outward sign of thier sexual orientation for me and some that I would have guessed at being totally straight.
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As I understand it a ballpoint pen is not dependent on gravity to function,however when placed upside down gravity may well prevent it from functioning ... in space gravity is not a factor

a ballpoint pen or a non generic biro?
Which are we talking about now?
A standard ballpoint as designed and invented by this man ....

as opposed to say a quill as invented by
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As I understand it a ballpoint pen is not dependent on gravity to function,however when placed upside down gravity may well prevent it from functioning ... in space gravity is not a factor

a ballpoint pen or a non generic biro?
Which are we talking about now?
A standard ballpoint as designed and invented by this man ....

as opposed to say a quill as invented by

Sorry to labour the post but....
The generic ballpoint pen is less attractive for use in space...
"Earlier pens leaked or clogged because of incorrect viscosity of the ink, and depended on gravity to deliver the ink to the ball. Depending on gravity caused difficulties with the flow and required that the pen be held nearly vertically. The original Biro pen used capillary action and a piston that pressurised the ink column, solving the ink delivery flow problems. Later Biro pens had a spring that kept pressure on the piston, and still later the Biro pens used just gravity and capillary action"
This from an alternate source:

The original usually is always best.