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I am wondering in light of the billions being given in aid to help prevent the epidemic worsening (and rightly so) by many Nations worldwide, is it right for Save the Children to be pleading for donations to errrr save the children ?
Could this not dilute the aid that can be done by one organisation with sufficient funds ?
Would StC not be better off, just "being there" to assist the joint effort by Nations when assistance requested ?
Is this just a "band wagon/panic mode opportunity" attempt to raise more funds in general ?
The outbreak does need to be sorted and many children will need help but they don't need a dozen aid agencies running around the whole thing needs one co-ordinated plan to deal with all aspects of the problem. (notwithstanding that individual countries will control their own preventative measures to minimise the risk of the disease being brought across their borders which isn't an "Aid" issue.
Don't you think the world should really turn the Ebola crisis on its head and do what Europe is thinking for the Med? Just leave everyone to their fate, that way the disease will die out as there will not be anyone to pass it on to.
sarcasm btw...
Of course its right for any charity to "bang its tin" for it's cause. Just because there is Ebola in one place there is still the plight of millions of others elsewhere.
Sorry, I must be being thick. But StC is part of the disasters emergency commitee and they are supporting the effort against ebola. So what's the problem with them raising money?
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Don't you think the world should really turn the Ebola crisis on its head and do what Europe is thinking for the Med? Just leave everyone to their fate, that way the disease will die out as there will not be anyone to pass it on to.
sarcasm btw...
Of course its right for any charity to "bang its tin" for it's cause. Just because there is Ebola in one place there is still the plight of millions of others elsewhere.

Banging their drum I agree with, but bang it for the right cause, there are many problems that StC try to put right, band the drum and raise funds for those, the Ebola crisis is getting enough donations and funding elsewhere, StC may find themselves getting less funds for their other projects, they do well at raising funds and directing them to where they think they are most needed within the projects and problems they address, it would be wrong of them to raise funds for the Ebola crisis and use them for something else so I think they could be shooting themselves in the foot.
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Sorry, I must be being thick. But StC is part of the disasters emergency commitee and they are supporting the effort against ebola. So what's the problem with them raising money?

Then as I said they should let the DEC raise the funds as one organistion not dilute the fundraising between a number of different member groups.
I am not against raising money for the problem but I am saying that it would be better to do it in one clear path.
The DEC is an umbrella organisation that consists of 13 leading UK charities. It coordinates the raising of funds for those charities and their response to international disasters. Furthermore it is able to use its influence in regard to advertising for fundraising to greater effect than each of the organisations paying for advertising time seperately. Once it has raised the money it helps to fund the member charities doing their work towards the crises. The DEC does not however physically send people to do the work.
So if StC raise additional funds over and above their 1/13th share of the DEC's funds then good for them.
One thing that seems to have slipped your notice however is that the DEC only launched its appeal on 30 October. Before that every charity was responsible for raising it's own funds. Surely it's not unreasonable to assume that whatever advertising you saw on 30 Oct would have been planned before that date? and therefore before DEC took over the fund raising initiative?
Nothing whatsoever "slipped my notice" it is something I do not know a lot about so, I asked the question and have received some very informative replies in return, that is why I like the forums, they are quite good for debating things and unlike media sources which can be bias and even lies, you get a broader view of topics with input for both sides of any argument/discussion.
Or, in other speak. You jumped the gun and spouted off about stuff that you no nothing about?
Grow up and stop acting like a spoiled child who has had one of his posts shown to be crap.
Anyone who reads my first post will see I asked questions, based on a train of thought I had and wondered if I was correct in my thinking, respecting that reading other peoples views might throw a different light on the subject.
Time YOU learned something, Human beings have thoughts, they are not always correct and are usually based on the information they have at the time, the wise ones seek to expand that knowledge, the regular humans who are not up their own arse's thinking they are superior to everyone else are willing to have their opinions changed should they be presented with information that warrants it.
My first post stated it was something I knew little about, if you cannot accept that some people do not know everything about everything I truly pity you.
The forums here have degenerated into a place where those who think themselves superior abuse and ridicule those that try to use them for debate and I for one no longer wish to be part of it.
Bye everyone, have fun.
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Grow up and stop acting like a spoiled child who has had one of his posts shown to be crap.

I think you'll find you are describing yourself there.
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Anyone who reads my first post will see I asked questions, based on a train of thought I had and wondered if I was correct in my thinking, respecting that reading other peoples views might throw a different light on the subject.

You train of thought is that StC should not have been raising funds to fight the ebola outbreak because the DEC should be doing it. However the very day you posted those thoughts is the very day that the DEC launched it's campaign. I have merely pointed out that becrying StC for raising funds is disingenuous because they have been raising funds and doing good work for a while now, preempting the escalation of efforts to a full DEC campaign.
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Time YOU learned something, Human beings have thoughts, they are not always correct and are usually based on the information they have at the time, the wise ones seek to expand that knowledge, the regular humans who are not up their own arse's thinking they are superior to everyone else are willing to have their opinions changed should they be presented with information that warrants it.

I know all that, but i don't know everything, so I use the Internet. It's an amazing research tool and you can access it yourself anytime you want to expand your knowledge. Try looking for starters. Why not learn from the organisation itself and not rely on other people informing you. Especially when you can't handle being informed and have to rely on thinly veiled insults to express yourself.
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My first post stated it was something I knew little about,

No it didn't!
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if you cannot accept that some people do not know everything about everything I truly pity you.

If you cannot accept that asking a question get's you an answer, then stop asking questions.
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]The forums here have degenerated into a place where those who think themselves superior abuse and ridicule those that try to use them for debate and I for one no longer wish to be part of it.
Bye everyone, have fun.

How many times will you flounce away like this? Oh well, you'll be back again in a few weeks and will probably state some nonsense that you don't see why you should be pushed out by other people (meaning me, but you never bring yourself to say that). But the truth of the matter is you weren't pushed you jumped.
See you in a few weeks.
well I for one will be sorry to see Mids go......yea he talks a load of old rubbish sometimes....but hey that's what the forums are about. I just can't understand why people can't state what they believe without being ripped apart. Disagree by all means, but come on....this is supposed to be FUN !!
I disagree with many others and a great many disagree with me.....but I will always respect what they say....and I hope they will me.
Now come on boys...PM each other and lets all play nicely !!
rolleyes:roll::roll::roll::roll:
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well I for one will be sorry to see Mids go......yea he talks a load of old rubbish sometimes.... !!

I think the bloke is a bit of a plonker to be honest. I mean honestly, can you imagine going for a beer with him? Can you imagine the conversation? Id rather shoot myself in the face banghead
Sorry, just my opinion.
(Come on... You know you're thinking it too)
Suprisingly I think the opposite and have voiced that on this very forum.
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well I for one will be sorry to see Mids go......yea he talks a load of old rubbish sometimes.... !!

I think the bloke is a bit of a plonker to be honest. I mean honestly, can you imagine going for a beer with him? Can you imagine the conversation? Id rather shoot myself in the face banghead
Sorry, just my opinion.
(Come on... You know you're thinking it too)
No I'm not thinking it all. I would love to go for a drink with him. He has a view....might not always be yours or mine.....but I will always respect him for bothering to stick his head above the parapet. He starts many threads....and god knows this place is quiet enough as it is. Lose Mids and the forums will be die even more. Comments like above is exactly what puts anyone new off ever commenting or starting a thread.
As thumpers mum once said " if you can't say anything nice....then don't say anything at all "
just changing the subject - anyone fancy a shag 69position
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just changing the subject - anyone fancy a shag 69position

thought you would never ask.....on my way...!!!!
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just changing the subject - anyone fancy a shag 69position

Yes...but you've never asked so nicely before...
Appen they've since left the building, no point in discussing an ex-member.
Such is life, we move on.
In the meantime, at the time of posting this, 79 members have joined on todays date Nov 5th of which 4 have gone on to subscribe to extras. Think positive!
Two Topics for discussion could be?
1: How to swear for an hour and not repeat yourself.
2: The inside of a table tennis ball.
Not sure if this is what I like about this site or if it is what I dislike!
The thread so far;-
1, Ebola
2, Charity
3, Misunderstanding about charity
4, Tempers frade over Ebola and charity
5, Member leaves over Ebola and charity and references to past inconsistances
6, Members muse over member leaving
7, Another member announces a shag might be good
8, Mod thinks the inside of a ball is interesting
Will miss Jed, I did not often agreed with him (to be honest, I didn't always understand what he was saying) but always thought what came through was a very genuine person!
SIP Jed and Sasha (swing in peace)
And Kat, would wash mi bits in brown ale for you, ay sweet talker!
I want to do number 7, but am more interested i what the inside of a mod looks like...can someone peel one for me?