I think we got the point dave
awwww cant blame Dave for that one, the sites being a pain
Ah the old passive smoking arguement.
Daves figures seem pretty low to me considering all the bollox some people say about it.
Perhaps the NHS should start charging pedestrians who are involved in traffic accidents because they didn't take the precaution of wearing several layers of bubble-wrap while crossing the street.
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It is an awkward question and I can understand why some people wouldn't want to treat breathing problems in smokers if they refuse to do something to address the contributing factor, for example.
While I agree that treatment should be across the board and not marginalise certain parts of the population, I can also understand the pressures that are placed on health authorities and NHS trusts to cut their costs to the bone (pardon the pun :lol2: ).
I will say again and this is really the end of the matter for me....
NHS slogan........."FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL ".
That has and always will be hopefully the NHS's only stance.
I smoke and I ride a fast bike and I pay a lot of money every month into the system. So why the fuck should I have to pay even more?
I also pay for private health care because as I see it, the NHS in many areas are not fit for purpose.
Do not fall ill at the weekend the Daily Mail spouts today, as more people die from lack of staff apparently at the weekend.
That is probably true as when my Father was in hospital recently there was not a Doctor in sight at all over the weekend, in fact it all grinds to a halt in there, other than feed the patients very little else gets done.
It is disgusting that some people have to wait months to even see a specialist let alone get an operation. That is why I went private as if I was to fall ill I do not want to wait months to be seen.
It is not right that the NHS finds itself in this situation, but there are many reasons of which I do not want to go into. But when I have to pay twice for a service, that my NHS payments should automatically pay for, that is a sad indictment of the state of the NHS.
If I was to fall seriously ill I am guaranteed to see a specialist within a week on my private health care insurance, but under the NHS it could be as long as six weeks. I just wish that I could opt out of the NHS and the money I currently pay put towards an even better private health care policy. That way I would not be a drain on the NHS when I fall ill, but they will not let anyone do that.
I'm 'fat' and I smoke. I have worked since i was 15 and paid my NI and I also have private health care.
Maybe I should give up smoking lose weight, stop working and live off the rest of you.
I want to live before I die.
If that means using my National Insurance (which I have been paying all my working life) fixing stuff that breaks or goes wrong as a result of living then so be it.
I would be far more comfortable if the Gov't saved money by throwing people like Ian Huntly off a high cliff instead of feeding them. And I know that might kick off the whole "there have been miscarriages of justice" argument. But there have been far more correct convictions than bad ones. And far too many get off (by crooked, evil lawyers) that SHOULD be convicted so it works out. Anyway - I don't agree with feeding paedophiles, rapists or murderers.
Well accroding to the first post of the post fat people and smokers should have to pay extra for being treated in hospital.
Well me myself used to be a smoker and i am overweight over the last few years i have had to go into hospital for various thing such as an eye operation,getting stitches put in and taken out for a kneee injury,
All of these thing have nothing to do with the fact i am overweight.
So my question to the publisher of this post is should i have paid extra for my treatment?.
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