Flashing

8 Jan 2011

Quote by foxylady2209
What I object to is someone being criminalised for doing what they feel is right and something that hurts no-one.

So somebody is struggling for money, they need to eat, and go shoplifting to feed themselves. They feel this is right, as they have to survive, and nobody is hurt - is this right? Your statement could see you condoning criminal activity.
Who decides that no-one is hurt?
As for the OP, I am someone who is regularly guilty of speeding. As a licence holder, I am deemed competent enough to operate machinery that if misused, is capable of killing, as such, I have a duty of care to myself, other road users, and other potential users (i.e. pedestrians crossing a road)to operate that machinery in a safe manner, as set out by law passed in Parliament.
Any dereliction of that duty by myself renders me liable to be dealt with by the authorities as they see fit, and by my actions/inactions, I have to accept any punishment that comes my way. This is the choice I make when I choose to speed, and should have no complaint if/when I get caught. I am grateful for other drivers warning me, but if I drive correctly, there is no need for these warnings.
A driving licence is a priviledge not a right.

8 Jan 2011

Quote by essex34m
What I object to is someone being criminalised for doing what they feel is right and something that hurts no-one.

So somebody is struggling for money, they need to eat, and go shoplifting to feed themselves. They feel this is right, as they have to survive, and nobody is hurt - is this right? Your statement could see you condoning criminal activity.
Who decides that no-one is hurt?
As for the OP, I am someone who is regularly guilty of speeding. As a licence holder, I am deemed competent enough to operate machinery that if misused, is capable of killing, as such, I have a duty of care to myself, other road users, and other potential users (i.e. pedestrians crossing a road)to operate that machinery in a safe manner, as set out by law passed in Parliament.
Any dereliction of that duty by myself renders me liable to be dealt with by the authorities as they see fit, and by my actions/inactions, I have to accept any punishment that comes my way. This is the choice I make when I choose to speed, and should have no complaint if/when I get caught. I am grateful for other drivers warning me, but if I drive correctly, there is no need for these warnings.
A driving licence is a priviledge not a right.
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Dave_Notts

8 Jan 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
This is the crux of the matter.
You are preventing the law breaker being caught.
That this leads them to temporarily modify the law breaking behaviour is irrelevant.
Its the difference between:
Stopping the assault.
and
Pointing out that if he does it in the bogs after closing he wont be caught on CCTV.
I think.

The problem still remains.....if you prevent any crime by warning the potential perpetrator you can only assume that you've temporarily modified their behaviour,much the same as police speed traps do with speeding the speed trap (as we're all aware)only temporarily slows down those who are prone to speeding, has this man not done exactly the same as the police would have? If this is the case why is he being prosecuted? There is I would suggest only one answer.....that the police decided to recoup the revenue lost from one prosecution by bringing another.
I would like to add that I'm in no way in favour of speeding,I have no objection to speed cameras or traps and that on the whole I think most people when behind the wheel of a car become arrogant tossers who if they witnessed their own behaviour in someone else would be hanging out of their window screaming.I do however feel that this prosecution gives lie to the idea that speed traps are not a means of raising revenue, I don't object to being fined for breaking the law I object to being lied to by anyone.
P.S. Every morning on our local radio station there is a list of the locations of that days speed traps read out....this supplied by the police,when are they going to prosecute themselves ??
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