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France & Greece say - "No more austerity!"

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Quote by Lizaleanrob
watching the program last night i think the thing that stuck in my mind was the fact that most countries falsified accounts to gain entry to the euro with the added fact that most of Europe's banks are trading insolvent ............looks for impending doom emoticon

is this it?
     
gulsonroad30664
we are all finished i tel ya. lol
Sorry guys but this is rubbish.
The way out of difficult times is to tighten your belt, reduce outgoings and work harder to bring more in. That is just how it is.
Pensions, moaning civil servants, tough time for youngsters - yep, all that is par for the course and is it fair? No, it isn't fair. But regrettably life is not fair but as Charles Darwin said - it is not necessarily the strongest who survive, but those who are most adaptable to change.
Let's not fool ourselves - most people in this country feel themselves to be above hospitality jobs and hence the influx of Eastern Europeans to fill those jobs. As long as the job snobbery attitude exists we will always have a problem.
First test for French President François Holland today as France votes in the first round of the Legislatives - to elect a new Parliament. The current mix puts the Socialists with fewer seats than they require with the risk that Holland will not be able to make the changes he wants but early indications are that the PS will tip the balance of power in their favour.
This might have been helped of course by the President announcing that the UMP austerity proposal announced by outgoing President Sarkozy to increase retirement age to 62 has been reversed.
So far so good.
With 4 French soldiers killed in Afghanistan yesterday, will this strengthen his resolve to withdraw French troops by the end of this year? I somehow think it will.
Looking like Greece will be leaving the Euro. So at least they have voted with their feet as it were and said "No more austerity".
Quote by Robert400andKay
Looking like Greece will be leaving the Euro. So at least they have voted with their feet as it were and said "No more austerity".

and others will soon follow i fear wink
I have just read this one -

Oh well. Looking like we may well end up the 51st State?
Quote by GnV
First test for French President François Holland today as France votes in the first round of the Legislatives - to elect a new Parliament. The current mix puts the Socialists with fewer seats than they require with the risk that Holland will not be able to make the changes he wants but early indications are that the PS will tip the balance of power in their favour.
This might have been helped of course by the President announcing that the UMP austerity proposal announced by outgoing President Sarkozy to increase retirement age to 62 has been reversed.
So far so good.
With 4 French soldiers killed in Afghanistan yesterday, will this strengthen his resolve to withdraw French troops by the end of this year? I somehow think it will.
hollonde has no resolve to withdraw french troops from afghanistan GnV and i somehow i think he wont. reverse the retirement age decision ? i dont believe that either. give him and the legislature a few weeks and lets see. they will have an excellent reason like bailing out greece, italy and spain and it will sound very reasonable but he wont do either. "same as the old boss". if voting could change anything it would be illegal. regards
no country will be leaving the euro. the sovereign debts of ireland, greece, portugal, spain and italy came from private banks not the citizenry. the debts were transfered from the banks by puppet governments of the banks to the respective populations (tax payers) just like here. the inter-relationship of all the banks and central banks is the source of systemic contagion and not the laziness or tax evasiveness of the people.
leaving the euro is a ruse to pressurise electorate's to believe that by voting against austerity the outcome will be worse.
the international speculators and banks are after germany's soveriegn wealth fund and they need germany to backstop, underwrite, all code for 'pay the debt' thats a total fraud anyway.
mercedes, bosch and seimens will be very happy with the fear of unemployment instilled in the minds of germans who will have to pay with austerity and will work harder for less while the falling value euro makes bmw's cheaper in india, china and russia.
if any debtor nation is thrown out of the euro, their creditors will not get paid but, if they remain in, germany will loose it's gold in new york (if it's still there).
the fake troll.
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no country will be leaving the euro. the sovereign debts of ireland, greece, portugal, spain and italy came from private banks not the citizenry. the debts were transfered from the banks by puppet governments of the banks to the respective populations (tax payers) just like here. the inter-relationship of all the banks and central banks is the source of systemic contagion and not the laziness or tax evasiveness of the people.

Nope, I think sooner or later countries will leave the Euro. The only other real possibility is a United States of Europe.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
leaving the euro is a ruse to pressurise electorate's to believe that by voting against austerity the outcome will be worse.
the international speculators and banks are after germany's soveriegn wealth fund and they need germany to backstop, underwrite, all code for 'pay the debt' thats a total fraud anyway.

Voting for and against austerity is irrelevant. The short term outcome isn't pretty.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
mercedes, bosch and seimens will be very happy with the fear of unemployment instilled in the minds of germans who will have to pay with austerity and will work harder for less while the falling value euro makes bmw's cheaper in india, china and russia.
if any debtor nation is thrown out of the euro, their creditors will not get paid but, if they remain in, germany will loose it's gold in new york (if it's still there).
the fake troll.

I do think you are reading too much into what has happened. I think Napoleons phrase 'Don't attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence'.
By the way the phrase is 'Germany will lose it's gold' well unless you meant to say 'loose it's gold'. Can sort of see bands of loosed German gold running round New York attacking wall street traders.