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I decided this morning to take a meter reading cause I'm convinced I've been paying too much for my gas and electricity. I checked my online bills and it appears my gas account is in credit by £361 and my electricity by £101!
:shock:
Needless to say they never tell you that you're in credit... they just keep your money!! rolleyes Refund on the way to me! Yay! :mrgreen:
Do you all keep a close eye on this kind of thing and it's just me who pays and ignores? dunno
Worth checking! :thumbup:
I keep a close eye on Gas and Electric, but I have got caught out with the telephone and on more than one occassion too - I refuse to have a DD even though it costs me more because I had my PC hacked into once and I don't want the risk of a huge sum being taken (or bounced) for someone else's calls / internet.
Plim :sad:
i keep a close eye on utility bills, always have done
i do prefer to pay by DD tho (we get a reduction in the bill for paying by DD) but i make sure we dont pay far to much and normally it ends up even or we owe them, rather than they owe us smile
I have a graph of each - take readings regularly (weekly or 2-weekly) in winter and less often in summer and can tell you to the £ how much in credit I am month on month. It isn't much as I ring in my readings any time it looks like going too high.
Sad I know - but I can't afford to lend money to companies that are billions in profit.
When they estimate they don't base it on your usage - they base it on some arbitrary reading - compared to my usage it must be the local leisure centre's sauna and pool put together.
When they set the monthly payments on DD the cheeky sods try to work it that in winter you pay fully and in summer you over pay and end up leaving them with (possibly) hundreds of pounds to have the interest off.
I have had stand up rows (on the phone so they couldn't see I was standing but that's beside the point) with the utility people and inisited that I expected to be £x in debt to them at the end of winter and the same £x in cerdit at the end of summer. That being the only fair arrangement with fixed monthly payments.
I think the guy only agreed to escape from the verbal battering he was getting. biggrin
Oh yes, meter readings. confused evil
Well, let me tell you about a well known electricity supplier who told me our payment was correct at a whopping 80 quid per month every time I rang (at least every three months) with a reading to check the amount was enough.
I knew it wasn't enough because I could stand there and watch the bloody thing tick over like a clock's minute hand moving around a dial. :? We're not frivolous with the electric, only use energy saving bulbs and turn things off as we go. Hideous new build shite panel storage heating and electric oven with about as much insulation as wearing nothing but a silk nightie in the snow. :? Oh and 80 quid will be enough will it? rolleyes
Oh, the answer to that one was no. A big fat NO. 80 wasn't enough and they damn well knew it. Even when I told them the maths and told them I wanted to change the amount, they insisted it was fine as it was and all was well in the land of payments. It came to the 'let's send the customer a summary' time of year, complete with graph and little data snippets, our usage for the year, the predicted usage for the coming year and our predicted monthly payment.
Do you know what they told me? We had used about 130pounds per month, our predicted electric use was about three times the national average payment and was lablled as "very high", my monthly payment for the coming predicted year...
Go on, have a guess.
30 pounds! Thirty of your English Sterling Pounds per month. rotflmao
Who on earth plucked that figure out of the air I'll never know, because they didn't know either! Surely if 80 wasn't enough then only paying 30 per month we'd be left with a bill the size of the national debt by the time 6 months had passed! I nearly wet myself at their sheer stupidity, phoned them, paid the arrears on the account, told them they were idiots (in a polite manner) and to work it out properly. I ended up doing the sums for them and in the end we were only 6quid owed to us when we closed the account, mainly because we'd not used the electric for a couple of days when we moved. :?
Not that you needed to know all that, but it pays to check, either way.
kiss LG. x
Thank goodness for my supplier. They regulary check my meter and constantly adjust my payments such that I neither owe or am in credit by a great deal.
When prices shot up and I suddenly found myself in arrears a simple phone call was all it took to negotiate a price to pay that was acceptable to both parties.
I suggest some of you check around for better service if not a better tarrif.
Well the update is that my gas bill was from May to November. My gas bill from November to April is £261!!
rolleyes
I won't be going on holiday with the credit!!
I'm going to wait for the credit to come back... which will apparently take 14 days... and then I'm moving to someone else!
Sharks!!
We take meter readings every month after a nasty surprise last January. Fair enough, our house is big and we had 10 people in the house over the Christmas period that year. My dad thought it was OK to spend all day in the conservatory with it's plastic roof (!) with the electric fire on all day (even though theres a real fire in the living room)
The combined gas & electric bill for just that 1/4? £840!!! We'd only been paying £80 per month so the outstanding was £600. To say I nearly fell over was a bit of an understatement.
We took several measures including replacing all the lights in the living room (all 8 of them!) with energy saving bulbs, but that didn't seem to be doing much so we bought 3 lamps for the living room. Cosy and a hell of a lot cheaper.
We also set the heating to be no more than 18 degrees at any time. That took some getting used to as we were used to 20/21 degrees but obviously couldn't afford that. We also covered cardboard with foil and put it behind the rads that were on outside walls to reflect the heat back into the house rather than loose it to outside.
I took to batch cooking more. If the oven went on, I put more than one meal in there, divided it up and froze what we didn't use. A quick blast in the microwave and bingo. A ready meal and I don't have to cook every night.
We've got our usage down now to £88 a month, which is still pretty high but compared to the £280 a month that quarter was, it's a hell of a lot better and we hopeully won't owe anything over the winter months.
Lesson learned the hard way!
It's a farce tho when you have to freeze in your own home because you can't afford to heat it!
*Her*
Good posting Couplefun
We are with nPower for both gas and electricity and recently switched to a different tariff. By doing this they sent us this little gadget which comes in two parts, the first measures your usage by clamping to one of the electricity meter cable tails and the other sits inside the house and gives you loads of usage data on an LCD screen.
We can now see in real time (and historically) our electricity consumption which is quite frightening to see. In a Mr Hodges WWII air raid warden style you will now hear "switch that bleeding light off" shouted rather often.
The big culprits are:
- hot tub (but no surprise there)
- tumble drier and washing machine
- kettle
- the sheer amount of stuff that is plugged in and on standby
So the hot tub which is our luxury item has had its temperature turned down to 37 deg C when we aren't in it and goes up to 38 just before using it. Doesn't sound much of a saving but it is. Also it's daily pump running to filter the water has been reduced from 3 hours to 2 with no reduction in water quality or additional chlorine. It's already massively insulated but we are also going to put a snugly fitted closed-cell foam sheet directly on the water surface. It's reduced the cost of running the hot tub by about 25%, down to 75p a day.
The tumble drier is now only on when needed, with a washing line out in the garden as the primary means for drying clothes. Also think about your washing machine load, is it efficiently loaded? Consider a cooler wash cycle too.
Kettles - we now think about how much water we actually need to boil rather than just switch it on. We were boiling about twice as much water as was actually needed.
"Standby stuff" such as power supplies for 5 laptops and computers and 5 phone chargers, microwave, cordless phone cradles, 3 TVs, PS3, 5.1 sound system, AV receiver, Sky box etc - used 400W and costed 5p an hour to run, every hour of the day and night even when it's in standby mode. Now most of it gets switched off or unplugged when not used.
I can recommend getting a real time usage meter, it really makes you think about what actually needs to be used and will give you a real saving. Better in your pocket than a shareholders!
I get cross that people are penalised by not paying DD :mad:
Sw - someone was telling me about those monitors at work this week. Mainly as they saw me boil the kettle twice as Id forgotten about it the first time confused :? I wouldn't do it at home!!!
Some good tips given - cheers biggrin