So basically 2 DJ's from a Radio Station in Australia phone the hospital where pretending to be members of the Royal family and are given information about the condition of the Duchess of Cambridge (Kate as she likes me to call her). Now we all know how hard it is to get information about relatives in hospital normally but quite amazing that the hospital didn't take more care in ascertaining that these two blokes were not HM the Queen and Prince Charles. Anyway they put the call through to Kates private nurse, who on recieving a call put through by the hospital and told "The Queen and Prince Charles on the line for you" quite rightly passed on the information they requested. And now she has committed suicide, I wonder what the Radio Station is saying now, the poor woman did what she thought was right, was made into a laughing stock and was probably about to be removed from one of the most respected positions in the profession of a nurse, I doubt every nurse wants the job but it has to be prestigious jobs and a very high achievement in her chosen profession. words fail me ........ I just feel so sorry for her (and the 2 children now without a mother). I hope heads will roll at the Radio Station and at the Hospital for allowing this to happen, it is not the first time DJs at Radio Stations have taken thier "fun for the listener" too far recently. We talk about regulating the press but I think we need to extend this thinking to anyone in a position through thier employment to cause such distress.
CORRECTIONS - It appears there are variations in different reports Apparently the 2 DJs were made up of a male and a female (but not the Queen or Prince) The nurse answered the phone because it was 5:30am, IMHO The hospital should have had someone there to answer the phone not a nurse who would not be trained in such matters in the same way someone should be trained to handle calls from the Palace when they are caring for a member of the Royal Family.
Quote by MidsCouple24 CORRECTIONS - It appears there are variations in different reports Apparently the 2 DJs were made up of a male and a female (but not the Queen or Prince) The nurse answered the phone because it was 5:30am, IMHO The hospital should have had someone there to answer the phone not a nurse who would not be trained in such matters in the same way someone should be trained to handle calls from the Palace when they are caring for a member of the Royal Family.
From the reports I've read, the nurse found dead is not the nurse that spoke to the radio station regarding the Duchess' condition, although she did answer the phone and transferred the call to the nurse in question. I'm not sure that any blame can be attached to the hospital, they were not to know they would be subject to a hoax call. Would a receptionist have been any more trained to handle calls from the Palace?
I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Anyway, what's done is done. Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces.
Quote by Max777 CORRECTIONS - It appears there are variations in different reports Apparently the 2 DJs were made up of a male and a female (but not the Queen or Prince) The nurse answered the phone because it was 5:30am, IMHO The hospital should have had someone there to answer the phone not a nurse who would not be trained in such matters in the same way someone should be trained to handle calls from the Palace when they are caring for a member of the Royal Family.
From the reports I've read, the nurse found dead is not the nurse that spoke to the radio station regarding the Duchess' condition, although she did answer the phone and transferred the call to the nurse in question. I'm not sure that any blame can be attached to the hospital, they were not to know they would be subject to a hoax call. Would a receptionist have been any more trained to handle calls from the Palace? To be honest, any idiot that answers the telephone at and thinks its the Queen asking questions is certainly not playing with a full deck. Makes you glad you only use the NHS though.
Quote by Max777 CORRECTIONS - It appears there are variations in different reports Apparently the 2 DJs were made up of a male and a female (but not the Queen or Prince) The nurse answered the phone because it was 5:30am, IMHO The hospital should have had someone there to answer the phone not a nurse who would not be trained in such matters in the same way someone should be trained to handle calls from the Palace when they are caring for a member of the Royal Family.
From the reports I've read, the nurse found dead is not the nurse that spoke to the radio station regarding the Duchess' condition, although she did answer the phone and transferred the call to the nurse in question. Then I appologise for my error, but still stand by the fact that the nurse felt so bad she felt she could not continue her life so that a couple of DJs could have a laugh and impress thier listeners without regard for the effect it would have on peoples lives. I'm not sure that any blame can be attached to the hospital, they were not to know they would be subject to a hoax call. Would a receptionist have been any more trained to handle calls from the Palace? This hospital takes care of members of the Royal Family quite often, procedures should be in place for that, phone the hospital in Birmingham that looks after military casualties and they have procedures in place to give information to Commanding Officers and Family Officers of service personnel recognising that this is important where normal Company bosses would not get such information. The hospital should have been prepared for calls from members of the Royal Family and decided which members of the Royal Family should have such information and which members should not, I believe Radio DJs should not be on the "tell them list". Those procedures should include a system set up with the Royal advisors to ensure the identity of the callers can be confirmed without doubt. I also believe that the Royal Family staff responsible for matters of this nature should be investigated (not criminally but to ensure they are doing thier job)
Quote by GnV I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Quote by MidsCouple24 I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? As GNV has already said, it is highly unlikely that the Queen would have rung the hospital herself, let alone ring it at am.
Quote by Max777 I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? As GNV has already said, it is highly unlikely that the Queen would have rung the hospital herself, let alone ring it at am. All hoax calls are important, hoax calls, cause deaths in the UK every year, hoax calls to the emergency services for example, hoax calls with bomb threats cause widespread disruption to people and businesses let alone cost a fortune, in this case your saying the hoax call is not important because it only led to the death of a nurse ....... I bet she had more sympathy for her patients than you had for her. I hope no nurse ever treats you with the contempt you have for them.
Quote by MidsCouple24 I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? As GNV has already said, it is highly unlikely that the Queen would have rung the hospital herself, let alone ring it at am. All hoax calls are important, hoax calls, cause deaths in the UK every year, hoax calls to the emergency services for example, hoax calls with bomb threats cause widespread disruption to people and businesses let alone cost a fortune, in this case your saying the hoax call is not important because it only led to the death of a nurse ....... I bet she had more sympathy for her patients than you had for her. I hope no nurse ever treats you with the contempt you have for them. You totally misunderstand me. Where have i shown contempt for any nurse? I have complete sympathy for the dead nurse but I don't think any blame can be attached to the hospital. Are you seriously suggesting that they should have 24/7 cover on reception in case they get a hoax call?
Quote by Max777 I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? As GNV has already said, it is highly unlikely that the Queen would have rung the hospital herself, let alone ring it at am. All hoax calls are important, hoax calls, cause deaths in the UK every year, hoax calls to the emergency services for example, hoax calls with bomb threats cause widespread disruption to people and businesses let alone cost a fortune, in this case your saying the hoax call is not important because it only led to the death of a nurse ....... I bet she had more sympathy for her patients than you had for her. I hope no nurse ever treats you with the contempt you have for them. You totally misunderstand me. I have complete sympathy for the dead nurse but I don't think any blame can be attached to the hospital. Are you seriously suggesting that they should have 24/7 cover on reception in case they get a hoax call? ABSOLUTELY, this hospital have a long history of taking care of the Royal Family, if necessary get the required funds from the Royal Family expenses budget but ensure thier physical safety, moral safety and confidentiallity at ALL times, at the very least brief staff on the procedures for dealing with enquiries about them and have security protocols in place to ensure this cannot happen, any nurse on here will tell you they have been taught about patient confidentiallity with ALL patients, the Royal Family need extra precautions that the hospital should recognise and ensure is covered in thier procedures. Again there is a lot of interest by the media in the conditions of wounded soldiers returning from battlefields, the hospital in Brum that cares for these soldiers are aware of this and have procedures in place to deal with such matters even if it is only to point out "the Queen will not phone at 5:30 guys be watchfull who you talk to"
Australia is part of the Commonwealth - Should this be removed after todays news? I'm not a Royalist, but I do care about people! SKYNEWS and all local Independent Stations are making it appear that Jacinta was suffering from depression, prior to the the sad event. Any Life lost through truama, is sole destroying,upsetting for the people that are left behind, we've all been affected in some shape or form. The victim here is Jacinta - RIP
Moreover, it is most unlikely that a member of the Royal Family would initiate such a call. An equerry or similar functionaire would set the call up if it was necessary, and then the call would only be put through once the correct person at the other end was in pace. But hey, at 05:30 you are not at your best and I can quite see how this was allowed to filter through. The only people at fault were the Australian Dickheads who couldn't care a castlemain XXXX for anyone else. It's most regrettable that some innocent bystander has lost her life over this and I'm sure lessons will be learned.
Quote by MidsCouple24 I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? As GNV has already said, it is highly unlikely that the Queen would have rung the hospital herself, let alone ring it at am. All hoax calls are important, hoax calls, cause deaths in the UK every year, hoax calls to the emergency services for example, hoax calls with bomb threats cause widespread disruption to people and businesses let alone cost a fortune, in this case your saying the hoax call is not important because it only led to the death of a nurse ....... I bet she had more sympathy for her patients than you had for her. I hope no nurse ever treats you with the contempt you have for them. You totally misunderstand me. I have complete sympathy for the dead nurse but I don't think any blame can be attached to the hospital. Are you seriously suggesting that they should have 24/7 cover on reception in case they get a hoax call? ABSOLUTELY, this hospital have a long history of taking care of the Royal Family, if necessary get the required funds from the Royal Family expenses budget but ensure thier physical safety, moral safety and confidentiallity at ALL times, at the very least brief staff on the procedures for dealing with enquiries about them and have security protocols in place to ensure this cannot happen, any nurse on here will tell you they have been taught about patient confidentiallity with ALL patients, the Royal Family need extra precautions that the hospital should recognise and ensure is covered in thier procedures. Again there is a lot of interest by the media in the conditions of wounded soldiers returning from battlefields, the hospital in Brum that cares for these soldiers are aware of this and have procedures in place to deal with such matters even if it is only to point out "the Queen will not phone at 5:30 guys be watchfull who you talk to" You really have no idea as to whether the hospital has any such procedures in place, If, as you say, the hospital is used to having Royal patients then I would suspect that such procedures ARE in place. Unfortunately as with all procedures, they can go awry due to human error. So, please show me where I showed contempt for the dead nurse
Quote by GnV Moreover, it is most unlikely that a member of the Royal Family would initiate such a call. An equerry or similar functionaire would set the call up if it was necessary, and then the call would only be put through once the correct person at the other end was in pace. But hey, at 05:30 you are not at your best and I can quite see how this was allowed to filter through. The only people at fault were the Australian Dickheads who couldn't care a castlemain XXXX for anyone else. It's most regrettable that some innocent bystander has lost her life over this and I'm sure lessons will be learned.
totally correct :thumbup: though I would like to think that other dickheads cannot cause such problems in the future and should not have been allowed to do it this time so there are no more victims.
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? This to me says that you believe it is not an important issue that a nurse died because of a hoax call, does anyone else see it that way or how does anyone else read that ?
Quote by Max777 I would guess its all about briefing (or lack of it). Very very unlikely that the Queen would ring up at that time of night for an update. More likely that the Queens physician would ring the Palace. Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess. Anyway, what's done is done. Yea she is dead what does that matter, let's just forget it and move on :sad: Two red faced Aussie DJ's now laughing on the other side of their faces.... And probably swimming in their own faeces. One might hope two ex DJ's
Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? As GNV has already said, it is highly unlikely that the Queen would have rung the hospital herself, let alone ring it at am. or have an Aussie accent :rude:
Quote by MidsCouple24 Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call? This to me says that you believe it is not an important issue that a nurse died because of a hoax call, does anyone else see it that way or how does anyone else read that ?
You really do talk bollox at times. You have taken my words entirely out of context . Once again I will ask you , where have I shown any contempt towards the dead nurse.
nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.
Quote by MidsCouple24 nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.
nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.[/ I believe you read what you want to read, not what others actually write.. Where have I said that the hoax call was not important? You still haven't answered my question as to where I have shown contempt for the dead nurse.
As a friend of mine posted on a well know social networking site yesterday "I fervently hope that Mel Greig & Michael Christian of 2Day FM suffer numbing & bone-crushing guilt for the rest of their truly worthless lives."
Quote by Max777 nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.
I believe you read what you want to read, not what others actually write. As I said in a previous post, you have taken my words entirely out of context. My comments regarding the hoax call were in response to your idiotic ranting that the hospital reception should have been manned 24/7 and that the hospital had no procedures in place, a fact that you really have no knowledge of either way. As a matter of interest, when you ring a ward in an NHS hospital, who is the phone answered by? I really would like an apology for your totally incorrect accusation that I was contemptuous towards the dead nurse
Quote by starlightcouple nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.
Words fail me at times. Yes I have noticed that at times you write meaningless posts like this one that sits on the fence saying nothing constructive but can be taken to demean any number of other posters
Quote by Max777 nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.
I believe you read what you want to read, not what others actually write. As I said in a previous post, you have taken my words entirely out of context. My comments regarding the hoax call were in response to your idiotic ranting that the hospital reception should have been manned 24/7 and that the hospital had no procedures in place, a fact that you really have no knowledge of either way. As a matter of interest, when you ring a ward in an NHS hospital, who is the phone answered by? I really would like an apology for your totally incorrect accusation that I was contemptuous towards the dead nurse Nope, no apology, I did answer your question as to why I thought you were being disrespectful, you did not however answer my question as to how I had misinterpreted (read what I wanted to read as you put it) what you wrote. I stated "Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess." To which you replied "Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call?" I read that as you saying that a hoax call was not important even though it led to the death of a nurse and indeed pointed out that many people die in the UK every year as a result of hoax calls for example those to the emergency services, that hoax calls regarding bombs disrupt the lives of many and cost industry a lot of money, so, yes I do believe hoax calls are an important issue. Now, if I have read what I want to read, misinterpreted what you meant then please answer my question as to what you did mean by the statement, them perhaps you might be vindicated and I will apologise.
Quote by MidsCouple24 nobody can deny I am the first to admit when I am wrong, but I simply don't understand how your statement that this hoax call was not important can be taken as anything but serious when it resulted in the death of a hard working nurse ? please explain to me what you meant by it. oh and I don't think you talk bollocks I believe you give your own honest opinion which is what forums are for.
I believe you read what you want to read, not what others actually write. As I said in a previous post, you have taken my words entirely out of context. My comments regarding the hoax call were in response to your idiotic ranting that the hospital reception should have been manned 24/7 and that the hospital had no procedures in place, a fact that you really have no knowledge of either way. As a matter of interest, when you ring a ward in an NHS hospital, who is the phone answered by? I really would like an apology for your totally incorrect accusation that I was contemptuous towards the dead nurse Nope, no apology, I did answer your question as to why I thought you were being disrespectful, you did not however answer my question as to how I had misinterpreted (read what I wanted to read as you put it) what you wrote. I stated "Absolutely right, the hospital failed to brief staff or have personnel in place to deal with such an important issue, how would anyone here feel if information of a personal nature was given to "any old caller" when they were in hospital let alone someone as important to the nation as the Duchess." To which you replied "Deal with what such important issue....a hoax call?" I read that as you saying that a hoax call was not important even though it led to the death of a nurse and indeed pointed out that many people die in the UK every year as a result of hoax calls for example those to the emergency services, that hoax calls regarding bombs disrupt the lives of many and cost industry a lot of money, so, yes I do believe hoax calls are an important issue. Now, if I have read what I want to read, misinterpreted what you meant then please answer my question as to what you did mean by the statement, them perhaps you might be vindicated and I will apologise. I can't believe that you really are as stupid as you make out so you must be trying to defend your idiotic comments to a ludicrous degree? Either way, I'm going to take heed of the old saying about never arguing with an idiot. And Flower asks why people don't post any more!
It's quite obvious this nurse had mental health issues, if it wasn't going to be two idiots from a radio station, it could then have been anything that triggered it off!
Quote by Mr-Powers It's quite obvious this nurse had mental health issues, if it wasn't going to be two idiots from a radio station, it could then have been anything that triggered it off!
indeed more mischief than malice by the radio station and probably a knee jerk over reaction by the hospital,,,,,,,,,the straw that broke the camels back
Quote by Lizaleanrob It's quite obvious this nurse had mental health issues, if it wasn't going to be two idiots from a radio station, it could then have been anything that triggered it off!
indeed more mischief than malice by the radio station and probably a knee jerk over reaction by the hospital,,,,,,,,,the straw that broke the camels back I had no interest at all over the hoax call in the first place, but what was the reaction to the nurses involved from the press to start with? we're they there usual baying for blood selves because information had been passed on to the radio station or were they in support of the nurses?
Quote by Mr-Powers It's quite obvious this nurse had mental health issues, if it wasn't going to be two idiots from a radio station, it could then have been anything that triggered it off!
indeed more mischief than malice by the radio station and probably a knee jerk over reaction by the hospital,,,,,,,,,the straw that broke the camels back I had no interest at all over the hoax call in the first place, but what was the reaction to the nurses involved from the press to start with? we're they there usual baying for blood selves because information had been passed on to the radio station or were they in support of the nurses? They were in support of the one goal that motivates almost all stories they publish, the goal of selling newspapers or getting viewing figures higher. You may be right something else may have triggered her reaction, but it may not have, only the facts can be judged not the "what might have been"
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