Oh, how quickly people forget...
Can't find the links to support but is my memory correct about at least two incidences of 'nice friendly cuddly little bushy tailed' foxes carrying off little children from their beds at night....
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Oh, how quickly people forget...
Can't find the links to support but is my memory correct about at least two incidences of 'nice friendly cuddly little bushy tailed' foxes carrying off little children from their beds at night....
You might mean ALthough they weren't actually carried off (interesting illustration of how stories 'grow'?) it must have been traumatic for all concerned. I certainly wouldn't welcome a wild fox into my home and a 'tame' one probably isn't all that tame. It has taken thousands of years to get dogs to the status of pets and look at the attacks some pets do.
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The story in that link I remember but I'm sure there was another one where a baby was carried off... maybe an earlier occasion.
It wouldn't surprise me. Especially in 'hard times' for the fox. They have no reason other thna fear to evoid human young. There is no moral problem for them - food is food. And humans shouldn't forget that - including those twits who cuddle fully grown tigers.
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Quote by GnV
The story in that link I remember but I'm sure there was another one where a baby was carried off... maybe an earlier occasion.
In July 2002, a fourteen week old baby was attacked in a house in Dartford, Kent.
Little Louis Day suffered bite marks on its head as a fox tried to drag him out the house.
It was only Louis's screams that alerted his parents and father Peter managed to chase it off.
In 2004 Margaret O’Shaughnessy, 88, from Edinburgh, was bitten as she went into the garden to give her cat a saucer of milk.
She was left with a three-inch long bite mark on her leg following the attack
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Quote by foxylady2209
i know i said that i fed the occasional fox in my garden, but this lady goes one step further
A good link Star, rather her than me! A little crazy perhaps? Maybe the begining of the domesticated fox...lol :lol:
You called? :giggle:
Domesticated and educated then
Sex God
I think we forget that the vast mojority of the world is not a safe place. We have become forgetful about being watchful. But you can't become safe by simply exterminating anything that bites. We need to relearn that life, wildlife especially, has teeth and claws and behave accordingly.
People who watch David Attenborough programmes and ooh and ahh at the magnificence of animals 'out there' should remember that the concept of 'out there' is a human distinction and is largely false.
We are an unusual country in that until recently our largest carnivore was a badger. I work occasionally in Germany and there is a walk through a small forest between work and a shopping centre. I was recently warned not to walk through there alone in the dark - not for fear of human attack, that wasn't mentioned - but because there are wild boar in there and they feed at night. Actually I was thrilled at the possibility.
Do people still put cat nets across prams when babies are put outside in the fresh air (are they even put outside anyore?). Maybe there is a market for introducing screen doors (memories of the Waltons spring to mind) into the UK for preventing animals from entering houses in good weather. I certainly don't want to shut myself in in good weather in case an animal comes in.
People who watch David Attenborough programmes and ooh and ahh at the magnificence of animals 'out there' should remember that the concept of 'out there' is a human distinction and is largely false.
We are an unusual country in that until recently our largest carnivore was a badger. I work occasionally in Germany and there is a walk through a small forest between work and a shopping centre. I was recently warned not to walk through there alone in the dark - not for fear of human attack, that wasn't mentioned - but because there are wild boar in there and they feed at night. Actually I was thrilled at the possibility.
Do people still put cat nets across prams when babies are put outside in the fresh air (are they even put outside anyore?). Maybe there is a market for introducing screen doors (memories of the Waltons spring to mind) into the UK for preventing animals from entering houses in good weather. I certainly don't want to shut myself in in good weather in case an animal comes in.
Sex God
Quote by foxylady2209
I think we forget that the vast mojority of the world is not a safe place. We have become forgetful about being watchful. But you can't become safe by simply exterminating anything that bites. We need to relearn that life, wildlife especially, has teeth and claws and behave accordingly.
People who watch David Attenborough programmes and ooh and ahh at the magnificence of animals 'out there' should remember that the concept of 'out there' is a human distinction and is largely false.
We are an unusual country in that until recently our largest carnivore was a badger. I work occasionally in Germany and there is a walk through a small forest between work and a shopping centre. I was recently warned not to walk through there alone in the dark - not for fear of human attack, that wasn't mentioned - but because there are wild boar in there and they feed at night. Actually I was thrilled at the possibility.
Do people still put cat nets across prams when babies are put outside in the fresh air (are they even put outside anyore?). Maybe there is a market for introducing screen doors (memories of the Waltons spring to mind) into the UK for preventing animals from entering houses in good weather. I certainly don't want to shut myself in in good weather in case an animal comes in.
Fresh air is probably bad for children....
OMG, I had clean forgotten that cat nets ever existed, suddenly taken back to my childhood.
I think you make a valid point that many have lost touch with the real natural world and humanise all animals, wild and domesticated
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With the hunting season proper, just around the corner there are fresh calls for the hunting ban to be reviewed.
Philip Davies, a former Chief Inspector, said:
"The Hunting Act is a police officer’s nightmare. It is hugely time-consuming, a massive distraction and produces very poor results.. There are already an abundance of laws that combat poaching, but the Hunting Act compels police forces to investigate law-abiding hunts with little or no success. The strain on resources is totally out of proportion to the results achieved."
There are fresh calls today for the hunting ban to be reviewed
The ban on fox hunting has been labelled a 'massive waste' of Police time
The Countryside Alliance have said Devon and Cornwall Police have not taken action against anyone involved with a registered hunt under the Hunting Act.
It was among 12 police forces to not have issued a caution, proceeded against, fined or convicted anyone since the ban came into force.
Key findings of the report:
•97% of convictions since the Hunting Act came into force relate to poaching or other casual hunting activities, including at least seven people who have been convicted of hunting rats
•In 2010, six police forces cautioned 11 individuals under the Hunting Act - not one was for an individual associated with a registered hunt. 16 police forces also proceeded against 49 individuals under the Hunting Act in 2010. Yet only 4 were individuals associated with a registered hunt.
•In 2010, 33 individuals were fined under the Hunting Act by local courts. But only one was for an individual associated with a registered hunt. 36 individuals were convicted under the Hunting Act in 2010, only one of these convictions was for an individual associated with a registered hunt.
•Since 2005 – the year the Hunting Act came into force – a remarkable twelve police forces covering hunt areas, including Devon and Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset and South Wales, have not issued a single caution, and have not proceeded against, fined or convicted any individual associated with a registered hunt.
•Although the total number of hours and days of police time that have been expended in the past year pursuing registered hunts cannot be properly counted, the statistics above reinforce the fact that the Hunting Act is unworkable and police forces are wasting time and effort pursuing law-abiding hunts.
Philip Davies, a former Chief Inspector, said:
"The Hunting Act is a police officer’s nightmare. It is hugely time-consuming, a massive distraction and produces very poor results.. There are already an abundance of laws that combat poaching, but the Hunting Act compels police forces to investigate law-abiding hunts with little or no success. The strain on resources is totally out of proportion to the results achieved."
There are fresh calls today for the hunting ban to be reviewed
The ban on fox hunting has been labelled a 'massive waste' of Police time
The Countryside Alliance have said Devon and Cornwall Police have not taken action against anyone involved with a registered hunt under the Hunting Act.
It was among 12 police forces to not have issued a caution, proceeded against, fined or convicted anyone since the ban came into force.
Key findings of the report:
•97% of convictions since the Hunting Act came into force relate to poaching or other casual hunting activities, including at least seven people who have been convicted of hunting rats
•In 2010, six police forces cautioned 11 individuals under the Hunting Act - not one was for an individual associated with a registered hunt. 16 police forces also proceeded against 49 individuals under the Hunting Act in 2010. Yet only 4 were individuals associated with a registered hunt.
•In 2010, 33 individuals were fined under the Hunting Act by local courts. But only one was for an individual associated with a registered hunt. 36 individuals were convicted under the Hunting Act in 2010, only one of these convictions was for an individual associated with a registered hunt.
•Since 2005 – the year the Hunting Act came into force – a remarkable twelve police forces covering hunt areas, including Devon and Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset and South Wales, have not issued a single caution, and have not proceeded against, fined or convicted any individual associated with a registered hunt.
•Although the total number of hours and days of police time that have been expended in the past year pursuing registered hunts cannot be properly counted, the statistics above reinforce the fact that the Hunting Act is unworkable and police forces are wasting time and effort pursuing law-abiding hunts.
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With the hunting season proper, just around the corner there are fresh calls for the hunting ban to be reviewed.
Philip Davies, a former Chief Inspector, said:
"The Hunting Act is a police officer’s nightmare. It is hugely time-consuming, a massive distraction and produces very poor results..
a bit like burglary figures or domestic violence figures do then.
the only crimes that the police force like are the easy ones like catching speeders or breaking up fights outside nightclubs. easy crimes to catch peeple at and to more importantly, fine them.
anything else that is in the slightest bit difficult and they start moaning about it. stop moaning mr davies and get your police force that you worked for with your big massive pension attached, to actually do the job they are fecking paid to do, and that is not moaning!
the law is the law wether it be fox hunting or catching a burglar!
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With the hunting season proper, just around the corner there are fresh calls for the hunting ban to be reviewed.
Philip Davies, a former Chief Inspector, said:
"The Hunting Act is a police officer’s nightmare. It is hugely time-consuming, a massive distraction and produces very poor results..
a bit like burglary figures or domestic violence figures do then.
the only crimes that the police force like are the easy ones like catching speeders or breaking up fights outside nightclubs. easy crimes to catch peeple at and to more importantly, fine them.
anything else that is in the slightest bit difficult and they start moaning about it. stop moaning mr davies and get your police force that you worked for with your big massive pension attached, to actually do the job they are fecking paid to do, and that is not moaning!
the law is the law wether it be fox hunting or catching a burglar!
Totally agree that the law is the law and should be applied equaly across the board whether there are lots or little convictions.
With the law, the government of the day introduces it and it is up to the citizens to abide by it. The police detect crime and the courts give justice. That is the theory, and it is not upto the Police Commisioner to decide what should be pursued for the benefit of their figures.
Dave_Notts
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With the law, the government of the day introduces it and it is up to the citizens to abide by it. The police detect crime and the courts give justice. That is the theory, and it is not upto the Police Commisioner to decide what should be pursued for the benefit of their figures.
Dave_Notts
I agree Dave, the law is the law, and must be enforced, but I believe he can express his view point freely. I am glad he has.
Here are some more freely expressed views;
“Parliament’s vote for an outright ban on hunting with dogs fills many of my fellow officers with dread. Not because the police are pro-hunting - the service is determinedly neutral – but because of the practical implications of enforcing such a ban.”
Alastair McWhirter, Chief Constable of Suffolk and ACPO spokesman on hunting, The Times, 3rd July 2003.
“We observe at the outset that the experience of this case has led us to the conclusion that the (Hunting Act) is far from simple to interpret or to apply: it seems to us that any given set of facts may be susceptible to differing interpretations. The result is an unhappy state of affairs which leaves all those involved in a position of uncertainty.”
Judge Graham Cottle and two lay magistratesoverturning the conviction of Tony Wright. Exeter Crown Court, 30th November 2007.
“Over the last 20 years, the public and the media have come to regard several events as notorious examples of bad government: the Community Charge (now remembered as the Poll Tax) in 1990, the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, the failure of the Child Support Agency, the Hunting Act 2004, the story of the Millennium Dome.”
Good Government, a report by the Better Government Initiative, January 2010.
“Tony, if you invoke the Parliament Act it will be the most illiberal act of the last century.”
Former Labour Home Secretary and mentor to Tony Blair, Roy Jenkinsto Blair
shortly before Lord Jenkins’ death in January 2003.
I am glad he has expressed his view point, but as a Chief Inspector it is not his job to have views on the law he enforces..........as Mr Davis he can voice them as he sees fit as a private person. I want my Police Officers to be open, transparent and apply the law equally........not to decide what is right and wrong in their view. That's the job of the courts. If they feel strongly about some legislation they do not want to enforce then they should go find another job.
Dave_Notts
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
I am glad he has expressed his view point, but as a Chief Inspector it is not his job to have views on the law he enforces..........as Mr Davis he can voice them as he sees fit as a private person. I want my Police Officers to be open, transparent and apply the law equally........not to decide what is right and wrong in their view. That's the job of the courts. If they feel strongly about some legislation they do not want to enforce then they should go find another job.
Dave_Notts
So you don't think that our Police Officers should be able to exercise discretion Dave ?
That the law is so entirely 'black and white' ?
You park on a double yellow line to quickly pop in to the bank and when you come out, you don't expect the patrolling PC who discovered your infraction to give you a ticking off but issue a ticket instead ?
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Quote by Dave__Notts
I am glad he has expressed his view point, but as a Chief Inspector it is not his job to have views on the law he enforces..........as Mr Davis he can voice them as he sees fit as a private person. I want my Police Officers to be open, transparent and apply the law equally........not to decide what is right and wrong in their view. That's the job of the courts. If they feel strongly about some legislation they do not want to enforce then they should go find another _Notts
Unless you have robots, instead of humans, what you ask for is plainly impossible.
Don't think anyone said they would not enforce any laws, just that this one is waisting vast amounts of time in his view, time which could be better spent else where
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I am glad he has expressed his view point, but as a Chief Inspector it is not his job to have views on the law he enforces..........as Mr Davis he can voice them as he sees fit as a private person. I want my Police Officers to be open, transparent and apply the law equally........not to decide what is right and wrong in their view. That's the job of the courts. If they feel strongly about some legislation they do not want to enforce then they should go find another job.
Dave_Notts
So you don't think that our Police Officers should be able to exercise discretion Dave ?
That the law is so entirely 'black and white' ?
You park on a double yellow line to quickly pop in to the bank and when you come out, you don't expect the patrolling PC who discovered your infraction to give you a ticking off but issue a ticket instead ?
Where the law allows officer discretion or there is an open and transparent policy for discretion that can be challenged, then yes they should be allowed discretion.
However, when a senior officer looks at the law and his budget then decides that he is not going to enforce it, as there is better things to do, then I cannot agree with that.
It is not his position to decide whether to enforce an Act of Parliament. There is already systems in place to over-rule/change an act, he should follow this route.
Dave_Notts
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Unless you have robots, instead of humans, what you ask for is plainly impossible.
Somethings do not need officersto think about. They should just do their job i.e. detect crime and present the evidence to the CPS.
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Don't think anyone said they would not enforce any laws, just that this one is waisting vast amounts of time in his view, time which could be better spent else where
In his view as Mr Davis or Chief Inspector Davis? That is my problem with his statement.
I do not agree with the statement "could be better spent". If the law is enacted then it needs enforcing.
Dave_Notts
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I am glad he has expressed his view point, but as a Chief Inspector it is not his job to have views on the law he enforces..........as Mr Davis he can voice them as he sees fit as a private person. I want my Police Officers to be open, transparent and apply the law equally........not to decide what is right and wrong in their view. That's the job of the courts. If they feel strongly about some legislation they do not want to enforce then they should go find another job.
Dave_Notts
So you don't think that our Police Officers should be able to exercise discretion Dave ?
That the law is so entirely 'black and white' ?
You park on a double yellow line to quickly pop in to the bank and when you come out, you don't expect the patrolling PC who discovered your infraction to give you a ticking off but issue a ticket instead ?
Where the law allows officer discretion or there is an open and transparent policy for discretion that can be challenged, then yes they should be allowed discretion.
However, when a senior officer looks at the law and his budget then decides that he is not going to enforce it, as there is better things to do, then I cannot agree with that.
It is not his position to decide whether to enforce an Act of Parliament. There is already systems in place to over-rule/change an act, he should follow this route.
Dave_Notts
So then, just to labour the point, A Police Officer in uniform - the Sheriffs men - should arrest every male child over a certain age caught in the open on a Sunday when they should be attending archery classes...
I think that piece of legislation is still on the Statute books - and there are probably more.
C'mon Dave. Common sense has to rule here, surely. The Public interest also has a rôle to play; if there are other priorities on budgets, Chief Constables and the PA surely have to prioritise the best use of limited resources ?
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Quote by Dave__Notts
Unless you have robots, instead of humans, what you ask for is plainly impossible.
Somethings do not need officersto think about. They should just do their job i.e. detect crime and present the evidence to the CPS.
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Don't think anyone said they would not enforce any laws, just that this one is waisting vast amounts of time in his view, time which could be better spent else where
In his view as Mr Davis or Chief Inspector Davis? That is my problem with his statement.
I do not agree with the statement "could be better spent".If the law is enacted then it needs enforcing.
Dave_Notts
The key word above dave is should, but humans will always have views and emotions that will effect what and how they do things.
I think its a very reasonable statement, If you have a limited amount of time and two crimes, the most serious will always take priority, just like in any job or walk of life, we prioritise.
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So then, just to labour the point, A Police Officer in uniform - the Sheriffs men - should arrest every male child over a certain age caught in the open on a Sunday when they should be attending archery classes...
I think that piece of legislation is still on the Statute books - and there are probably more.
It sounds good but unfortunately it is no longer on the statute book............and many more have been repealed due to not being used in so many years
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C'mon Dave. Common sense has to rule here, surely. The Public interest also has a rôle to play; if there are other priorities on budgets, Chief Constables and the PA surely have to prioritise the best use of limited resources ?
Common sense should prevail, and if a modern law is enacted it should have reasonable resources put towards it. I am not saying it supercedes a murder or , yet there are times when people are not murdering and each other so the police will have time to investigate the lesser, but none the less, enacted laws.
Dave_Notts
Quote by Bluefish2009
Unless you have robots, instead of humans, what you ask for is plainly impossible.
Somethings do not need officersto think about. They should just do their job i.e. detect crime and present the evidence to the CPS.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Don't think anyone said they would not enforce any laws, just that this one is waisting vast amounts of time in his view, time which could be better spent else where
In his view as Mr Davis or Chief Inspector Davis? That is my problem with his statement.
I do not agree with the statement "could be better spent".If the law is enacted then it needs enforcing.
Dave_Notts
The key word above dave is should, but humans will always have views and emotions that will effect what and how they do things.
I think its a very reasonable statement, If you have a limited amount of time and two crimes, the most serious will always take priority, just like in any job or walk of life, we prioritise.
Totally agree Blue.............but you make it sound that the police is taken up with murders and rapes every minute of the day. There is plenty of time for them to investigate these allegations when the priorities of more severe crimes have been dealt with.
For this chap to just dismiss an enacted law is not his right to do. He is there to serve........not decide what laws he likes or doesn't
Dave_Notts
Sex God
Quote by Dave__Notts
Unless you have robots, instead of humans, what you ask for is plainly impossible.
Somethings do not need officersto think about. They should just do their job i.e. detect crime and present the evidence to the CPS.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Don't think anyone said they would not enforce any laws, just that this one is waisting vast amounts of time in his view, time which could be better spent else where
In his view as Mr Davis or Chief Inspector Davis? That is my problem with his statement.
I do not agree with the statement "could be better spent".If the law is enacted then it needs enforcing.
Dave_Notts
The key word above dave is should, but humans will always have views and emotions that will effect what and how they do things.
I think its a very reasonable statement, If you have a limited amount of time and two crimes, the most serious will always take priority, just like in any job or walk of life, we prioritise.
Totally agree Blue.............but you make it sound that the police is taken up with murders and rapes every minute of the day. There is plenty of time for them to investigate these allegations when the priorities of more severe crimes have been dealt with.
For this chap to just dismiss an enacted law is not his right to do. He is there to serve........not decide what laws he likes or doesn't
Dave_Notts
As far as I am aware he is up holding all laws, just expressing his dislike of the time waisted on this one
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As far as I am aware he is up holding all laws, just expressing his dislike of the time waisted on this one
In that case we go full circle.
If it is Mr Davis expressing his view then fine, but not Chief Inspector Davis as it is his job to serve and uphold the law, not decide which ones he likes to do
Dave_Notts
the police should and i use that word lightly, should be there to protect and serve. i thought that was a part of there commitment when they signed up 
we all know that it is about money and power and when both of them are used the police jump through hoops. for the rest of society you will be lucky tyo get a proper police officer attend your crime, but a community police oficer with limited powers.
this will only get worse with the cuts and the many police officers that we will lose up and down the countrys police forces. it could be your force that suffers the next time you ring them, or when a police officer determines that your crime is not that important.
i am sure there are many peeple affected by crime that see every saturday loads of police officers openly on display at football matches up and down the country. yes the clubs pay the football club for those officers, but we also pay for a decent service in our local and national taxes, and expect a decent service. for that service i would expect police officers to turn up at a hunt where there is likely to be peeple breaking the law, and do something other than whinge about it!!
maybe just like the nhs where now you can buy private insurance as we know waiting on the nhs for anything is a full time occupation, we should be able to buy a police officer for a day or two. actualy that sounds like a jolly good idea.
i am sure there would be a few peeple who would buy a few extra officers to attend the local hunt.
we all know that it is about money and power and when both of them are used the police jump through hoops. for the rest of society you will be lucky tyo get a proper police officer attend your crime, but a community police oficer with limited powers.
this will only get worse with the cuts and the many police officers that we will lose up and down the countrys police forces. it could be your force that suffers the next time you ring them, or when a police officer determines that your crime is not that important.
i am sure there are many peeple affected by crime that see every saturday loads of police officers openly on display at football matches up and down the country. yes the clubs pay the football club for those officers, but we also pay for a decent service in our local and national taxes, and expect a decent service. for that service i would expect police officers to turn up at a hunt where there is likely to be peeple breaking the law, and do something other than whinge about it!!
maybe just like the nhs where now you can buy private insurance as we know waiting on the nhs for anything is a full time occupation, we should be able to buy a police officer for a day or two. actualy that sounds like a jolly good idea.
i am sure there would be a few peeple who would buy a few extra officers to attend the local hunt.
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Quote by Dave__Notts
As far as I am aware he is up holding all laws, just expressing his dislike of the time waisted on this one
In that case we go full circle.
If it is Mr Davis expressing his view then fine, but not Chief Inspector Davis as it is his job to serve and uphold the law, not decide which ones he likes to do
Dave_Notts
I think Chief Inspector Davis is perfectly entitled to express a view on any law as long as he continues to up hold it.
I am sure there are things your bosses have implemented some where over the years that have made you say, what a load of crap this is, but you have still done those jobs as it is your job
Sex God
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but we also pay for a decent service in our local and national taxes, and expect a decent service. for that service i would expect police officers to turn up at a hunt where there is likely to be peeple breaking the law, and do something other than whinge about it!!
i am sure there would be a few peeple who would buy a few extra officers to attend the local hunt.
On occations they do, but I understand their frustration Star.
Since 2005 – the year the Hunting Act came into force – a remarkable twelve police forces covering hunt areas, including Devon and Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bedfordshire, Staffordshire, Dorset and South Wales, have not issued a single caution, and have not proceeded against, fined or convicted any individual associated with a registered hunt.
Why would you, as a police Chief, keep sending polices officers when this is the results you are getting? When they could be helping some one who really needs help!
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Why would you, as a police Chief, keep sending polices officers when this is the results you are getting? When they could be helping some one who really needs help!
bluefish he should do what you and i have to do in our job, and do as we are told by our paymasters.
police chiefs sit in there big expensive offices sipping tea with other dignitaries talking about lamp posts and dog mess in the local parks.
real police officers go out on the front line and have to face violence from demonstrators and anrchists and risk there lives at times.
the police are there to up hold law and order however that may happen and whether it is at a hunt or a football match the reesons do not matter from a personnal level.
he has no right at all with his china tee cup and his earl grey tee, to dictate to anyone about who should be protected and who should not be. is the policing of the uk now a fucking lottery? no it is there to uphold law and order.
many times police have to attend but there ends up being no truble, who is this clown to know when that truble will happen?
to serve the public and law and order. maybe he should be reminded of that fact. oh no we cannot as he is only opening his big gob now that he is retired. where were these words of wisdom when he was being paid by the taxpayer and drinking his earl grey, no doubt paid for by us after he had put in his expenses sheet.?
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Why would you, as a police Chief, keep sending polices officers when this is the results you are getting? When they could be helping some one who really needs help!
bluefish he should do what you and i have to do in our job, and do as we are told by our paymasters.police chiefs sit in there big expensive offices sipping tea with other dignitaries talking about lamp posts and dog mess in the local parks.
he has no right at all with his china tee cup and his earl grey tee, to dictate to anyone about who should be protected and who should not be. is the policing of the uk now a fucking lottery? no it is there to uphold law and order.
I believe they do, no one has told me otherwise
I don't believe he has dictated anything, only expressed an annoyance with waisting resources
What your suggesting is to send road sweepers out to sweep a clean road, what boss would do that?
Philip Davies, another former Chief Inspector, said:
“The Hunting Act is a police officer’s nightmare. It is hugely time-consuming, a massive distraction and produces very poor results. There are already an abundance of laws that combat poaching, but the Hunting Act compels police forces to investigate law-abiding hunts with little or no success. The strain on resources is totally out of proportion to the results achieved.”
In 2010, 33 individuals were fined under the Hunting Act by local courts. But only one was for an individual associated with a registered hunt. 36 individuals were convicted under the Hunting Act in 2010, only one of these convictions was for an individual associated with a registered hunt.
staggering 97% of convictions since the Hunting Act came into force relate to poaching or other casual hunting activities, including at least seven people who have been convicted of hunting rats.
The Hunting Act is being used almost exclusively by the Police to tackle poaching, lending a veneer of success-through-numbers to the Act. Poaching was illegal before the Act and would continue to be illegal without it.
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The strain on resources is totally out of proportion to the results achieved.”
I hear this in a lot of places. I heard it when someone was explaining the death rate from legionnella agaist the controls needed to reduce it.
This phrase can be used in a lot of places or for lots of different reasons.........doesn't make it right when people put money before the law.
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I am sure there are things your bosses have implemented some where over the years that have made you say, what a load of crap this is, but you have still done those jobs as it is your job
I have but in private or to myself. If I had spoken publically then my job may have been at risk..............and after re-reading the thread then I notice that it was formerChief Inspector Davis. Are there any actual serving chief officers who voice his concerns? So when he was serving he never actually spoke out. So in fact it was Mr Davis who spoke these words not Chief Inspector Davis.
Dave_Notts
