Hi
here are a couple of questions id like to ask
1- how come you cannot go into a shop or chemist to buy a drug (canabis)which once consumed/smoked makes the user lathargic and half asleep with no intention of causing anyone any trouble yet you can walk into any high street supermarket or corner shop and buy an evil liquid called alcohol which can leave the user violent and causes so much damage in the community.
2- cigarettes come in a box with pictures on the box showing gum decay, lung disease e.t.c. yet again the evil liquid called alcohol does not show pictures of diseased livers, battered wives and killed people on the roadside.
I have had the lectures on how safe cannibis is and how it has no long term addiction and know the Hemp argument so well.
I have also seen a total family destroyed by its father being a cannibis smoker (not skunk)- the paranoia and anxiety side affects which after 10 years I am exhausted from trying to resolve.
In Scotland cannabis is an every day activity on some estates and watching the people live in an unreal world of apathy and poverty has really demoralised my view on the safety of cannabis.
I totally agree that drink is addictive so I am not comparing but for those people who say that cannabis is safe I cannot agree as I believe that I have seen over 10 years too many people in their teens, 20's and 30's and 40's all fall victim to the side affects of a substance that yes does not give you a hangover and yes does not make you violent or want to steal but a substance that can take away your love of life, create paranoia, stop you achieving your goals and stop you having relationships with friends and families.
I think thats the saddest part for me knowing good people who have not been able to break their habits even though all the time I am told it is not addictive .......
Sorry doesn't wash what you have said. Heard that one too much. 1 in 4 people have mental health problems and yes I imagine other subsances will always be used if one is taken away. Not that all people with mental health problems take substances.
Of course let people do what is legal but I was not talking about one or two people who are affected I am talking about thousands. They didnt start out lazy and apathetic. They just got into a way of life where they were told recreational drugs have no side affects or addiction.
I will never win on this argument but having been on the outside and seen what it has done to others I am saddened that life has to be ruled by any substance. Maybe if people just could have fun in their lives without believing that drugs of any nature are what relaxes them we would have better relationships inside and outside of families.
Good idea, legalise it.
Then it can be taxed.
The money can be used to make free prescriptions available. Again.
After all, why should a course of antibiotics cost me when the actual cost to the nhs, at the point of sale, is ?
Or a ventolin inhaler at when the cost to the nhs is ?
I should care what drug addicts have to pay ?
Anyone who needs drugs to get their jollies has more problems than worrying about legality.
Like: worrying about whether their brain is working.
1 in 4 people have mental health problems - nothing to do with cannabis, just a general statistic on mental health which is what I said.
You are obviously passionate about legalisation and I am would say I am passionate about it not being. As I said and I am entitled to my point of view cannabis smokers wont agree with my view but having spent the last 10 years around so many users no one will convince me different.
If its for medical reasons its no different to the use of any perscribed drug - I would support controlled use.
I wont write any more as you put up a thread and are now seemingly not liking getting responses which differ from your own.
1 in 4!!!! - I seriously doubt that - where do you get your figures from? I guess it depends on your definition of mental health problems - everyone gets depressed or down from time to time, but I wouldn't classify that as having mental health problems.
1 in 4, that means on average every fourth person I meet, see on the street, pass on the motorway etc, has mental health problems - I really can't take that figure seriously
Corrie 2008
"1 in 4 people have mental health problems - nothing to do with cannabis, just a general statistic on mental health which is what I said.
You are obviously passionate about legalisation and I am would say I am passionate about it not being. As I said and I am entitled to my point of view cannabis smokers wont agree with my view but having spent the last 10 years around so many users no one will convince me different."
If its for medical reasons its no different to the use of any perscribed drug - I would support controlled use.
I wont write any more as you put up a thread and are now seemingly not liking getting responses which differ from your own.
1 in 4!!!! - I seriously doubt that - where do you get your figures from? I guess it depends on your definition of mental health problems - everyone gets depressed or down from time to time, but I wouldn't classify that as having mental health problems.
1 in 4, that means on average every fourth person I meet, see on the street, pass on the motorway etc, has mental health problems - I really can't take that figure seriously
Mental health is about how we think, feel and behave. One in four people in the UK have a mental health problem at some point in their lives, which affects their daily life, relationships or physical health. NHS June 2009.
I dont quote facts unless I have looked them up. As I said I take this subject seriously. I should have quantified the stats better as stated above but as I said its still a subject which if discussed people want to say that abusers are just wasters. I think the national campaign to help people understand mental health issues and take is more seriously will help us all understand why people behave in the way that they do.
Anyway just wanted to clarify the stat.
Bull's 1978 paper on the HTC content of cannabis and its effect on the limbic system was meant to show how the limbic system degrades after much exposure to the compound. The results were by no means conclusive. Indeed just five years later in 1983, Tosh's lab results for experiments on the same system showed the opposite may be the case. Where's those ear goggles? The work done on the degeneration of the Stria Mudullaris by Alcock three years later in 2004 caused a stir but was again not conclusive. Itsityrical bits. Many of the social reports, where's those ear goggles? Its often made light of in the or it could be a cat maybe, thinking about his girlfriend. Cos that's where the problem comes from sometimes isn't it? I'm mean they call people this and they call people that and they call passive people hippies and blah blah woof woof all down the line. Where's those ear goggles? It's cos they're not in love man. Cowboys and Indians don't stay in tune anyway. Gee I'm feeling so hungry. As anyone got anything to eat?
i say legalise it, I work for a university (maths/science dude so excuse the lack of grammer) and weed is everywhere, to all the daily mail brigade who seem to see green as this "super skunk" crap, yes lets all smoke resin with its crushed up vinyl, boot polish and diesel it's so much safer (have you ever seen what goes into res?). Yes it can isolate you, make you lazy etc but is it any worse than booze or the fags? Nope, all you ever see in the media is the downsides of the drug, the "i smoked 80 joints a day and stabbed people." Like any drug be it booze, hell even chocolate when taken to excess will screw some folks up. Maybe it's more to do with the nanny state raising a generation who have no self control, no self respect etc. I dunno. For the record I regularly smoke weed, i don't drink much anymore, I don't steal to fund my habit; I hold down a proper and demanding job. Seriously to those who equate pot heads to crime, its rubbish, try looking at coke/booze/brown related crime to see real drug related disorder, i am yet to meet a dope smoker who would rob/steal/beg to fund their habit
Sorry for the rant but it really bugs me to see all the bad press weed gets when they (media types) refuse to compare it to booze or other imo more damaging substances but then again if you live in the city and work in the media/banking sector its socially accpetable to drink dangerous amounts of booze and stuff coke up your nose on a regular basis but pot heads are portrayed as "dirty stoners" when in reality I work with pot smokers in my university on a daily basis who have more sense and brains/intelligence than half the people who work in the press/media/finance sector
i hope your as happy to stand up and be counted if the university decided to do a drug test and you lost your job and reputation.
i dont compare cannibis to alcohol or coke etc , as i thik they all have their own devils, and just because there are already enough life fucking up sht out here thats legal does not to me mean we should add another one to the legal list of crap.
i work within a housing estate that see the robbing, the unemployment, the dropout of canabis smoking people.
im not saying you cant hold down a job being a dope head, there are people with very hig powered jobs who are crack adicts.
i know i wouldnt be happy if my childrens tutor was a dope head.
just because lots of people do something does not give a balanced reason to legalise it.
xx fem xx