Sometimes I wonder if this is an adult site. All this petty 'he said, she said,' 'Mods banned me' 'mods favourite' 'this'll be locked' name calling and all that crap.
GROW UP!!!!
the forums are the least busiest part of the whole site, yet takes up most of the moderators time and YOU lot take up much of that!
I'll make this as plain and simple as it gets - if we get anymore of this petty bickering amongst you, you will ALL be banned. We have all got a lot better things to do than deal with you piecemeal, so if one goes, you all go. Enough is bloody enough.
Now this thread will not be locked, but we will be watching it.
Mal
I'm sure someone will let me know if Im overlooking something vitaly important here, or if I make another typos on this blooming iPhone. But come on Boys and Girls, is there really any need to involve moderators if a discussion is not to your liking? If you look at what it says on the entrance to Current Affairs then surely you are expecting controversial and political discussions to be taking place here. If you want that warm fuzzy glow then why not stick to the cafe?
Seriously if I fealt that bothered about any subject in here that I even thought about complaining I would have to cry enough, it would be an argument lost.
Now feel the love, or else! :0)
Feel the lurve here...........
Hi Nola,
I don't know whether you keep admnistrative records on this forum or perhaps you have a private forum where admins and moddies can thrash things out between you. I was the British moderator of an international politics news forum for many years and both facilities were available. What we spent a lot of our time on was not the rules themselves, but how they were interpreted and how to enforce them. Banning senior members was something that we would only do after discussing alternatives with the others and looking back at previous infractions.
Personally I see nothing wrong with this thread, of course I don't Im the OP. There has been some pettiness, but that is what you get when you engage in any kind of political debate. Page six did seem to go off topic with a few silly posts, but IMO it would surely be better for the integrity of the forum just to delete the off topic posts and let the rest of the thread run it's course?
Anyway I've gone off topic myself now, but those are just my own honest opinions.
BG.
Brighton strong subjects usually mean strong views.
I do not see anything different being said, that would not be said in a pub, or in my living room.
Yes people have clashed on here, and insults have been thrown, but as long as I have been on here, that has happened. Even when I joined this site, the forums I was not interested at all in. I used to have a look from time to time, but never had the inclination to post. But I still saw the arguements and the slanging matches. It happens at times when people have very strong views.
We are at war at the moment because people cannot agree, but that is what happens when people do not agree. Not go to war on here, but argue and say things that some may find offensive. Peoples interpretations of offensive differ from person to person.
Yes Mal is correct in most of what he says.
This usually happens, things calm down and then it usually fires back up again.
I know for a fact there are plenty of people that would love to comment in this forum, but frankly are a bit put off by the possibility of being shot down by their comments, which is sad really.
Nola also sums it up in many ways, but you cannot possibly have strong subjects with differing opinions, and not have blow ups. If that was to happen it would not be worth the discussion, as people need to be passionate about things, and if they are then that is where heated debate happens.
This thread will now just go into the archives and gather the dust, which is a shame because it was a good topic.
Unfortunately Kenty you will always get groups of people who have identified themselves as victims, they have taken on board that mentality and are frantically reading through any strong or controversial debate looking for anything they might be able to find offensive. It is all to do with political correctness, the empowering of the weak, and the stifling of any opposition to the liberal agenda.
People are dragging us back into the dark ages, there is no need for bleeding hearts in a country where those who might have been persecuted in the past are protected by laws that seem to make them more important and protected than those of us so often described as ordinary.
So I can be described as an ignorant knuckle dragger, just as long as I can be appropriately censored, I won't complain because I'm used to it. My usual reaction is to simply point and laugh, which is one surefire way of infuriating an idiot.
We are heading for some very interesting times, some of us are more ready than others. One thing I am certain of, censorship never won an argument and it never will.
BG.
Just a couple of points.
The topics are fine in their own right and there is no problem with strong arguments and debate. It's when the members, not the moderators, start throwing insults around at each other and trying their own brand of oneupmanship. We don't delete posts for the very reason that's already been mentioned, because it is a form of censorship.
If your arguments are good enough with enough supporting evidence and fact, not hearsay, then they stand or fall on that strength. However if you have to resort to petty insults and accusations of bleeding heart lefties, then your argument was never strong enough in the first place.
We do not stifle debate, we are here to ensure members are can all debate fairly on a level playing field, so don't make out it's the moderators fault that we have reached this low point.
Mal
Must admit, it does seem sometimes that the mods pick and choose how they intereptate the rules.......
Anyway, back on topic....
I don't think this man should go to prison, what he should get is 500 hrs community service and spend it at headley court.
During WW2, a german officer shot one of his own men for pissing on an allied grave from WW!.
Are we supposed to shoot him :shock:
Dave_Notts
Let's not descend into writing about what bastards soldiers were on any side of any war. Don't blame the puppets blame those who pull the strings. If there was a world war tomorrow young people would be conscripted and sent to fight whether they agreed with it or not.
It is terrible to piss on or disrespect anybodies grave, and that includes any soldier just because he was on the other side. Should the opportunity arise where as one might piss on the grave of a government that sent his country to war, then that would be a different matter.
You don't have to support the war to support the people fighting it. I just wish they would put Gordon Brown into combat gear, give him some faulty equipment, and send him into the Helmand Province. Will there be enough helicopters to rescue him? Will he even get through on his radio? If he has to return fire will his rifle work?
And he can't even make the trains run on time...
