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moving on from other Michael Jackson posts
Didn't like Jackson, the man or the music. The 1 exception being "Ben". As far as I'm concerned he was a , convicted or not, and having enough money to buy a not guilty verdict doesn't change that. I hope his ex wife gets her children back but doubt she will.
I look forward to the day when I can go for 24 hours without reading or hearing a Jacko headline. He's dead and buried. Couldn't have happened to a better person. Lets move on now to talking about more deserving people.
I look forward to the day when I can go for 24 hours without reading or hearing a Jacko headline. He's dead and buried. Couldn't have happened to a better person. Lets move on now to talking about more deserving people.
Sex God
Wasn't P.T. Barnum the greatest showman ?? the musical says so....have we been lied to again??? I think we should be told
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well this seems to be a hot topic,
All i really asked was could anyone place a MJ song or video to an event in their lives,
I think we all have places we remember and can recall the sound from the radio jukebox or whatever and associating them together.
no you didn't,you asked people what was their Michael Jackson moment!!
ok so i didn't quite express what i was asking.... and i see from the replies that it's quite different having a MJ moment and the other...
sowwy...
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...can you remember or what is your Michael Jackson moment? i think every single one of us has one?
go on tell us ?...
1. The first ever Moonwalk.
I remember being little (am 31) & being allowed to stay up late to watch The Motown 25th Anniversary, on BBC One.
My Parents kept telling me that all day during work, the BBC Radio mentioned that Jackson done something amazing.
Well the show was really good then he comes on...
does this move, like he's floating or some magic.
He gets better the dancing & the tune all rolled into one, perfection.
I was crying with amazement at seeing something so magical.
2.
The Ultra Slow Mo Break-dancing Zombies in 'Thriller'(Music Video).
During the making of the amazing 'Thriller' video, the Director: John Landis wanted it's dancing section to be quick.
Micheal Jackson agreed but said a slower section needed to be introduced. Jackson's idea was for a group of Zombies to be Breakdancing in a slow manner.
This was created & even before his sad death, I have always told people that this little section is one of my all-time faviourite things.
It's soooo on the money.
The Ultra Slow Mo Break-dancing Zombies in 'Thriller'(Music Video).
During the making of the amazing 'Thriller' video, the Director: John Landis wanted it's dancing section to be quick.
Micheal Jackson agreed but said a slower section needed to be introduced. Jackson's idea was for a group of Zombies to be Breakdancing in a slow manner.
This was created & even before his sad death, I have always told people that this little section is one of my all-time faviourite things.
It's soooo on the money.
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what is your Torchwood moment?
lp
You, a match, and an erection.
I'm in two minds if to post or not- my MJ "moment" was a few years back, when I retook my English GCSE at night skewl. One of the speaking & listening tasks was to play a chat show host, or guest, in a pair.
I wrote a skit...in which I was Ali G interviewing Michael Jackson.
It was funny.
It was also ahem "near the knuckle."
Sexpert
Quote by Max777
I'm not going to get involved in the whole MJ debate but would question Kent's remark that he was, in his opinion, one of the 4 people who changed music the most.
In which way did he change music? I don't think music changed direction as a result of any of his output. His videos no doubt influenced the hoards of later ones trotted out with similar dance routines but did he have such a significant influence on later musicians?
A certain Lennon and McCartney DID change contemporary music, influencing an entire generation of musicians, well actually generations....think Oasis
Ya forgot to mention Elvis he changed music lol
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I'm not going to get involved in the whole MJ debate but would question Kent's remark that he was, in his opinion, one of the 4 people who changed music the most.
In which way did he change music? I don't think music changed direction as a result of any of his output. His videos no doubt influenced the hoards of later ones trotted out with similar dance routines but did he have such a significant influence on later musicians?
A certain Lennon and McCartney DID change contemporary music, influencing an entire generation of musicians, well actually generations....think Oasis
Ya forgot to mention Elvis he changed music lol
Ah but Kenty did.......and I wouldn't disagree with him on that choice, I was only disagreeing with MJ
Quote by Max777
I'm not going to get involved in the whole MJ debate but would question Kent's remark that he was, in his opinion, one of the 4 people who changed music the most.
In which way did he change music? I don't think music changed direction as a result of any of his output. His videos no doubt influenced the hoards of later ones trotted out with similar dance routines but did he have such a significant influence on later musicians?
A certain Lennon and McCartney DID change contemporary music, influencing an entire generation of musicians, well actually generations....think Oasis
Ya forgot to mention Elvis he changed music lol
Ah but Kenty did.......and I wouldn't disagree with him on that choice, I was only disagreeing with MJ
Yes I did.
I also forget the Beatles too. As someone already mentioned.
They were probably the greatest influence on music. They went through many stages of music, and all were different to the one before.
From the early days of Help and love me do, through to the Srgt Pepper stuff, then into the later stuff.
Queen were brilliant but like most bands played the same style of music from start to finish. Yes Freddie changed as he was brilliant, but let's be fair he WAS queen anyway.
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what is your Torchwood moment?
lp
My Torchwood moment? Realising on day 5 of The Children Of Earth that Russel T. Davies is about as subtle as a sledge-hammer to the back of the skull!
Still, he had a point tho. ;)Any road up, back on topic. ((( Kinda? ))) And in the news today, Neilinleeds in shocked to discover that he's in almost complete agreement with Kentswingers bombshell! :shock: :lol:
Kent. I find the constant reference to MJ as the who got away distasteful myself. Luckily, you can't libel the dead apparently.
Apparently, the fact MJ chose to pay his 'victim' ((( or more precisely, the victim's parents ))) rather than stand up in court makes him a , and that suspicion carries more weight than the fact that the alleged victim's family equally chose not to put their allegations before a court. Both parties ducked out of that one. Who's to say which of them is the liar? :? I know if it was my kid that had been sexually abused, no amount of money would buy me off. To the best of my abilities, I'd make sure that fucker was in jail. And then, maybe, I might make a claim for damages, assuming of course that I'd be even remotely interested in the guys millions? :? First priority though as a parent would surely be punishment, and prevention of further offences against kids. They chose not to do that, which calls into question their motives. That another family then came forward some years later knowing that allegations of child sexual abuse had already been made ((( which begs the question, WTF were they doing letting their kid in there? :? ))) and that the first had been paid off, but couldn't secure a conviction is just as suspect as MJ is alleged to be. He capitulated to the allegation first time round, possibly because he knew damn well he couldn't cope with a trial in the full glare of worldwide publicity? Maybe he didn't have 20 million to hand the second time round. I'm not sure he was actually capable of an adult relationship, so no surprise then that he had inappropriate relationships with kids, because in essence he was a child himself. That doesn't make him a . Let's face it, calling someone a is much worse than calling them a murderer, and probably worse than calling them a . I'd need to know for sure that someone was actually a before I dared use the term to refer to them.
IMO, MJ was a deeply damaged individual on every level, intellectually and emotionally. We all know about his father, we all know that from the age of 5 MJ's life was not his own, we all know that he was simply a money machine when what he should have been is a small child who plays with action men FFS. The Peter Pan of Pop was in many ways perhaps a child trapped in a man's body. People look at Neverland, and the playgrounds, and amusement arcades, and the dolls along the stairs, and say, this is a man offering playthings to children so he can groom them. I wonder if they were really just MJ's innocent playthings all along, and he was just too damaged and vulnerable to deal with the accusations of those who had previously exploited him, his fame, and his money.
N x x x ;)
Valid points Neil.
On this very site if I was to call someone a Peado, or a gay man ( I will not even say the word ) as the mere mention of anything bad against a gay guy or a black man, or a Muslim, would have me banned forever.
People on here would scream " racist " or " homphobic " or " anti Islamist ". But not many screaming about MJ being labelled a peado, and the guy is dead ffs.
I honestly am not bothered the guy has died. Yes I am sorry for his kids, and yes I think his Father is a tosser of the highest order, and that link is probably the major factor behind Jackson's weird behavour. He left his Father out of his will, so that should tell you something.
I cannot believe that if I called someone on here a " fa--ot " I would no doubt be banned and put in the stocks but....people can call someone a who cannot answer and on top of that has just died, and get away with it.
What is the difference? So Neil if I called you a child molester, rightly so I would be vilified and banned but, I can call someone else that, as long as he is not a member of SH. :shock: NO it does not work that way. Being labelled a child molester without any evidence and no convictions, is probably the worst you can say to someone.
I found it tacky and under the circumstances of his death, was a tad premature at the very least.
Evidence anyone?
On this very site if I was to call someone a Peado, or a gay man ( I will not even say the word ) as the mere mention of anything bad against a gay guy or a black man, or a Muslim, would have me banned forever.
People on here would scream " racist " or " homphobic " or " anti Islamist ". But not many screaming about MJ being labelled a peado, and the guy is dead ffs.
I honestly am not bothered the guy has died. Yes I am sorry for his kids, and yes I think his Father is a tosser of the highest order, and that link is probably the major factor behind Jackson's weird behavour. He left his Father out of his will, so that should tell you something.
I cannot believe that if I called someone on here a " fa--ot " I would no doubt be banned and put in the stocks but....people can call someone a who cannot answer and on top of that has just died, and get away with it.
What is the difference? So Neil if I called you a child molester, rightly so I would be vilified and banned but, I can call someone else that, as long as he is not a member of SH. :shock: NO it does not work that way. Being labelled a child molester without any evidence and no convictions, is probably the worst you can say to someone.
I found it tacky and under the circumstances of his death, was a tad premature at the very least.
Evidence anyone?
Ya see, Nelly, that's been my tack.
I don't read the tabloids, so a lot of the "facts" eluded me at the time & still do. The only bare bones I didn't manage to escape was this- there was an allegation, and it never went to court because of a payout.
Now- the payout is undoubtedly highly odd.
By the same token- if I believed my child had been abused, no amount of money would have payed me off.
Ok, theres the possibiity I'd have accepted the payoff and used it to hire a partcularly nasty hit man/woman with a passion for ripping out fingernails with pliers to the tune of "Ben," and a bottle of champagne for after. But you get my drift.
For that reason, I reserve judgement. If I bothered to find out more about the case I might start to feel the balance of probability was tipped- but Joe Public stands no hope of getting to anything close to the facts.
As I've said before, if he was guilty I hope he rots in a hell where "The girl is mine" is played on a loop.
I don't read the tabloids, so a lot of the "facts" eluded me at the time & still do. The only bare bones I didn't manage to escape was this- there was an allegation, and it never went to court because of a payout.
Now- the payout is undoubtedly highly odd.
By the same token- if I believed my child had been abused, no amount of money would have payed me off.
Ok, theres the possibiity I'd have accepted the payoff and used it to hire a partcularly nasty hit man/woman with a passion for ripping out fingernails with pliers to the tune of "Ben," and a bottle of champagne for after. But you get my drift.
For that reason, I reserve judgement. If I bothered to find out more about the case I might start to feel the balance of probability was tipped- but Joe Public stands no hope of getting to anything close to the facts.
As I've said before, if he was guilty I hope he rots in a hell where "The girl is mine" is played on a loop.
