Ya know what Rob?
I kinda am warming very nicely to Mr Pickles.
I will wait though to find out how the councils will try and claw back some of the money they are being forced to cut back on.
What is the betting that the easier option will be to up parking charges, and to increase parking fines, including bus lane ones.
For sure they will be looking at every avenue to get more money in. What other sneaky ways will they find to monitor people and then fine them?
I await with baited breath.
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
looks like friday the 13th for the audit commission was a bit of a red letter day
Quote by The BBC
Staff received an email from management on Friday. A source told the BBC it came "completely out of the blue".
Surely that should have been green... the coalition mix is blue and yellow; doesn't that make it green??
Quote by kentswingers777
I do not mean to be argumentative but.....I cannot think of a more high powered job in the private sector than the Prime Ministers job.
He also is in charge of thousands and thousands of Civil servants. He is probably in charge of the biggest budgets of anyone else, and as you well know his salary is a lot less than a lot of high powered council leaders.
So is the PM worth more or less than a council leader?
I know which one is the higher powered and should be earning the higher salary but....work it out for yourself, one is private sector and one is public sector.
Not always as it seems.
Not when yet again we have public sector big wigs earning this kind of money...
You are confusing the vast difference between the elected leader (be it the PM or a council leader) and the person responsible for managing an organisation and delivering change.
I don't know of any council leader- ie: a person elected by the public, rather than the appointed Chief Executive - that earns any more than the PM. Nor one that is provided with two properties (10 Downing Street and Chequers) and round the clock protection. If you can find me one I will eat my hat.
The Prime Minister is not directly in charge of any civil servants. He is responsible for setting overall strategy and direction.
The Civil Service has the job of going away and delivering what the PM, the Cabinet and Parliament asks for. And that is where the real skill is required - because anyone can demand something they want!
In local government, it is the Chief Executive who goes away and delivers what the council leader and his top team of elected members wants.
The difference is that someone who is elected - ie: a council leader or the Prime Minister - is basically the winner of a popularity contest.
The person with the skills and experience to find a way of delivering it is the relevant senior Civil Servant or council Chief Executive.
And these type of leadership and management skills cost money!
I personally think the PM should be paid more because of the vast responsibility they have. They are in effect the public face of UK PLC. Most people think they actually deliver the change as well as ask for it. The truth is that they don't.
If people actually understood more about how government works they would understand what a tricky balance it is. But human nature means it's a lot easier to stand on the side lines moaning about how crap everything is.
Sex God
Quote by GnV
looks like friday the 13th for the audit commission was a bit of a red letter day
Quote by The BBC
Staff received an email from management on Friday. A source told the BBC it came "completely out of the blue".
Surely that should have been green... the coalition mix is blue and yellow; doesn't that make it green??
nice to be told by email don't you think :undecided:
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
looks like friday the 13th for the audit commission was a bit of a red letter day
Quote by The BBC
Staff received an email from management on Friday. A source told the BBC it came "completely out of the blue".
Surely that should have been green... the coalition mix is blue and yellow; doesn't that make it green??
nice to be told by email don't you think :undecided:
Email - luxury.
We heard about the last round of redundancies on the local radio while driving into work!
Sex God
i think the days of local councilor are coming to an end its the job no one wants
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
It's so funny and pathetic, the responses to the abolition of the Audit COmmission.
The government is intent on making public services shit. It's forcing through ideologically driven cuts that make no sense. And what does it do? It abolished the independent body whose job it is to point out when local services are shit.
And people applaud and cheer.
Christ help us all.
The government is intent on making public services shit. It's forcing through ideologically driven cuts that make no sense. And what does it do? It abolished the independent body whose job it is to point out when local services are shit.
And people applaud and cheer.
Christ help us all.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i think the days of local councilor are coming to an end its the job no one wants
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
Sadly there are many who think all councillors are on the take, doing toss all and taking the money. As with all areas of life, there are some who undoubtedly do. But the vast majority spend many hours a week trying to solve the problems of local people and doing their level best to improve the area. Whatever decisions they make they will never please everyone. The fact is there are less people willing to do this type of thing which is why the average age of a councillor is now 50 plus. I really do fear where the next generation will come from. We live in a democracy and we need people to step up and be willing to make those decisions on our behalf. If people are unhappy with the present system the only way to change it is to get involved, rather than just moaning about how corrupt it all is. Just think of the difference you could make to your area if you devoted the time spent on this forum every week to improving your neighbourhood!
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i think the days of local councilor are coming to an end its the job no one wants
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
You do know the difference between a Town Council and a real one don't you? I mean...
A Town Council is Vicar of Dibley stuff, a parish council without the pretty scenery and the sheep shagging in the intermission. Half of all parish council seats are uncontested, and they have a wide range of powers, from errr, fuck all to fuck all, by way of the allotments and a park bench or two.
You did know that didn't you?
Sex God
Quote by awayman
i think the days of local councilor are coming to an end its the job no one wants
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
You do know the difference between a Town Council and a real one don't you? I mean...
A Town Council is Vicar of Dibley stuff, a parish council without the pretty scenery and the sheep shagging in the intermission. Half of all parish council seats are uncontested, and they have a wide range of powers, from errr, fuck all to fuck all, by way of the allotments and a park bench or two.
You did know that didn't you?
errrr yes but
what do they say about little acorn's
talking of little acorns
Quote by awayman
It's so funny and pathetic, the responses to the abolition of the Audit COmmission.
The government is intent on making public services shit. It's forcing through ideologically driven cuts that make no sense. And what does it do? It abolished the independent body whose job it is to point out when local services are shit.
And people applaud and cheer.
Christ help us all.
You obviously didn't read the link....
Sex God
Quote by Stevie J
i think the days of local councilor are coming to an end its the job no one wants
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
Sadly there are many who think all councillors are on the take, doing toss all and taking the money. As with all areas of life, there are some who undoubtedly do. But the vast majority spend many hours a week trying to solve the problems of local people and doing their level best to improve the area. Whatever decisions they make they will never please everyone. The fact is there are less people willing to do this type of thing which is why the average age of a councillor is now 50 plus. I really do fear where the next generation will come from. We live in a democracy and we need people to step up and be willing to make those decisions on our behalf. If people are unhappy with the present system the only way to change it is to get involved, rather than just moaning about how corrupt it all is. Just think of the difference you could make to your area if you devoted the time spent on this forum every week to improving your neighbourhood!
yes steve these are my pretty much my sentiments
most of the problems i have encountered with local councils are a result of the councils not facing a problem but closing rank and brick walling the problem
the results have been disastrous for the council but some good has finally come out of it with the new CEO approaching me and meeting me twice in two weeks to try to rectify and prevent the same happening again with other tax payers
and we both agreed that the use of an outside mediator would help the council be more approachable in problem cases
so sometimes it's worth the fight
Sex God
Quote by awayman
It's so funny and pathetic, the responses to the abolition of the Audit COmmission.
The government is intent on making public services shit. It's forcing through ideologically driven cuts that make no sense. And what does it do? It abolished the independent body whose job it is to point out when local services are shit.
And people applaud and cheer.
Christ help us all.
i do believe some councils have beat them to it
Quote by Lizaleanrob
It's so funny and pathetic, the responses to the abolition of the Audit COmmission.
The government is intent on making public services shit. It's forcing through ideologically driven cuts that make no sense. And what does it do? It abolished the independent body whose job it is to point out when local services are shit.
And people applaud and cheer.
Christ help us all.
i do believe some councils have beat them to it
So did the Audit Commission. Have you ever read one of their reports?
Quote by flower411
i think the days of local councilor are coming to an end its the job no one wants
to be honest with the sort of bad image councils have portrayed who wants to associate them selves with one
You do know the difference between a Town Council and a real one don't you? I mean...
A Town Council is Vicar of Dibley stuff, a parish council without the pretty scenery and the sheep shagging in the intermission. Half of all parish council seats are uncontested, and they have a wide range of powers, from errr, fuck all to fuck all, by way of the allotments and a park bench or two.
You did know that didn't you?
I think you`ll find that the "Parish Council" in the Vicar of Dibley is based heavily on a Parochial church council which is slightly different to the other Parish council that does have quite a lot of influence over local affairs, when properly run by people who actually give a shit.
You try doing anything where we are that the Parish council objects to and you`ll find yourself up against a brick wall.
Each unto their own, but I know a considerable amount about that of which I speak.
Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Hes a brainy bloke that steve.
:love:
For fucks sake someone tell me this is utter bollox and not true....please.
IF it is true no wonder so many people see their money being wasted on utter crap!
One woman stated... " But Liz Sayce, chief executive of disability network Radar, agreed with the social worker the desire for sexual relations was a matter of human rights ".
Then pay for it out of your own pocket, silly cow.
IF it is true no wonder so many people see their money being wasted on utter crap!
One woman stated... " But Liz Sayce, chief executive of disability network Radar, agreed with the social worker the desire for sexual relations was a matter of human rights ".
Then pay for it out of your own pocket, silly cow.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Yes I had quite forgotten how to websearch for misinformation. Of course were our community given the chance to contribute without bitching,back biting, spamming and trolling we might all learn something.
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So please tell me, which bit of my link about PCC's was "misinformation"?
Sex God
Quote by GnV
Yes I had quite forgotten how to websearch for misinformation. Of course were our community given the chance to contribute without bitching,back biting, spamming and trolling we might all learn something.
:doh::doh::doh:
So please tell me, which bit of my link about PCC's was "misinformation"?
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