Nuclear War next week ?

16 Apr 2012

Quote by GnV
when's the x factor back on ??

Was it ever off?
I say bring back Opportunity Knocks with Hughie Green and Monica Rose :crazy:
would it be rude of me if i said "whos hughie green and monica rose " dunno

16 Apr 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob
when's the x factor back on ??

Was it ever off?
I say bring back Opportunity Knocks with Hughie Green and Monica Rose :crazy:
would it be rude of me if i said "whos hughie green and monica rose " dunno

pmsl
Ah, the innocence of youth!

16 Apr 2012

Quote by gulsonroad30664
the west and its proxy (israel) will not attack iran until it has overturned/changed the regime in syria. take a step back and look at the geostrategic situation from a solely western corporate point of veiw.
to stop future developement of the brics you must control africa and eurasia's resourses and prevent trade with the brics and maintain preponderance. read kissinger and bzrezinski and you will understand more clearly the events unfolding. arab spring, libya, syria, somalia, sudan, iran, after having experienced osama to get afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction to get iraq, protection of civilians and humanitarianism to flatten libya and same for syria.
the western leaders dont give a phuck about protecting civilians abroad or at home. they care about profit and war makes plenty of that for some.
western special forces are the syrian free army and paid mercenaries and ciaquader.
the libyan rebels are paid mercenaries, western special forces, al ciaquader and traitors from the previous regime filling their own pockets while most libyans now struggle to feed themselves while the oil flows out for free. nato reparations.
the taliban (afghanis) are likely patriots fighting occupation. al quaeder means data base in arabic. it is the data base of the mujahadeen fighters, recruited, armed, trained and financed by the c.i.a. as a policy of zibignew bzrezinski to expel the soviets out of afghanistan.
am i so old and you so young that these events have taken place in my lifetime and not yours. am i mistaken in joining up the dots ?
how can intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards not see what is taking place unless literally, they were born yesterday and have no foreknowledge ? if you wish to prevent thermo nuclear catastrophe, you must first wise up. by becoming aware to these machinations, the politicians take fright of your awareness. while you swallow the lies and bullshit, they do more of the same. wake up.

They would have to be a damn site more than just intelligent if they were able to operate keyboards and had literally been born yesterday!!!
Maybe it's because the rest of us intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards posses sufficient intelligence not to believe all the crap written on conspiracy websites.

17 Apr 2012

Quote by Max777
the west and its proxy (israel) will not attack iran until it has overturned/changed the regime in syria. take a step back and look at the geostrategic situation from a solely western corporate point of veiw.
to stop future developement of the brics you must control africa and eurasia's resourses and prevent trade with the brics and maintain preponderance. read kissinger and bzrezinski and you will understand more clearly the events unfolding. arab spring, libya, syria, somalia, sudan, iran, after having experienced osama to get afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction to get iraq, protection of civilians and humanitarianism to flatten libya and same for syria.
the western leaders dont give a phuck about protecting civilians abroad or at home. they care about profit and war makes plenty of that for some.
western special forces are the syrian free army and paid mercenaries and ciaquader.
the libyan rebels are paid mercenaries, western special forces, al ciaquader and traitors from the previous regime filling their own pockets while most libyans now struggle to feed themselves while the oil flows out for free. nato reparations.
the taliban (afghanis) are likely patriots fighting occupation. al quaeder means data base in arabic. it is the data base of the mujahadeen fighters, recruited, armed, trained and financed by the c.i.a. as a policy of zibignew bzrezinski to expel the soviets out of afghanistan.
am i so old and you so young that these events have taken place in my lifetime and not yours. am i mistaken in joining up the dots ?
how can intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards not see what is taking place unless literally, they were born yesterday and have no foreknowledge ? if you wish to prevent thermo nuclear catastrophe, you must first wise up. by becoming aware to these machinations, the politicians take fright of your awareness. while you swallow the lies and bullshit, they do more of the same. wake up.

They would have to be a damn site more than just intelligent if they were able to operate keyboards and had literally been born yesterday!!!
Maybe it's because the rest of us intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards posses sufficient intelligence not to believe all the crap written on conspiracy book i hold in my hands is a strange conspiracy website ?
i refer you to "the grand chessboard" written by zbigniew brzezinski with the sub reference on the front cover "american primacy and it's geostrategic imperatives". all that has taken place militarily in the world is laid out chronologically from 2000 to the present day and particularily under the cover of "the war on a percieved enemy" "the war on terror". this book was first published in 1997 and i first read it in 1999.
if "conspiracy" websites offer answers that concur with the facts laid out in this book then maybe the conspiracists have read it also. you want con spiracy, i give you "weapons of mass destruction", "iraq could hit british bases in cyprus within 45 minuets" "mohammed atta's green saudi passport found at ground zero" - f.b.i. "gadaffi is handing out viagra to troops for gang as a punishment" "no fly zone" = bombardment and destruction of infrastructure. but the oil is now flowing free and the libyans have nothing after having the highest standard of living in africa.
osama bin laden captured in pakistan in a house with his wife sheilding him but he was captured, killed and his body dumped in the sea - bollox. al quaeder carrying out terrorism in libya, somalia, yemen, sudan, egypt, pakistan and now syria - bollox, it's all in the plan and iran will be next.
to maintain american primacy and prevent the chinese, the russians, the indians and all the rest of the developing world from being able to challenge america's primacy and subjugate the rest of the world as insignificant mini states.
if you really want to make me a con spiracy theorist for gods sake dont read henry kissenger on "food as a weapon" or "depopulation of the third world".
thank you max for sharpening me.

17 Apr 2012

Quote by gulsonroad30664
all that has taken place militarily in the world is laid out chronologically from 2000 to the present day and particularily under the cover of "the war on a percieved enemy" "the war on terror". this book was first published in 1997 and i first read it in 1999.

That's bloody clever - I now know who you are and I claim my 10 shillings. You are, in fact, Dr Who.
How else could you read about all the events from 2000 to the present day in a book that was written in 1997?
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:

17 Apr 2012

Quote by foxylady2209
all that has taken place militarily in the world is laid out chronologically from 2000 to the present day and particularily under the cover of "the war on a percieved enemy" "the war on terror". this book was first published in 1997 and i first read it in 1999.

That's bloody clever - I now know who you are and I claim my 10 shillings. You are, in fact, Dr Who.
How else could you read about all the events from 2000 to the present day in a book that was written in 1997?
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
perhaps 4 star general wesley clark is doctor who. he predicted the overthrow of all the regimes affected by the "arab spring" in 2004 based on inside knowlege and discussion with paul wolferfitz. read "policy for the new american century" "pnac report" first published in 1999 based on brzezinski's and kissinger's foreign policy and state department policy documents. not conspiracy theorem. FACT.

18 Apr 2012

Quote by gulsonroad30664
the west and its proxy (israel) will not attack iran until it has overturned/changed the regime in syria. take a step back and look at the geostrategic situation from a solely western corporate point of veiw.
to stop future developement of the brics you must control africa and eurasia's resourses and prevent trade with the brics and maintain preponderance. read kissinger and bzrezinski and you will understand more clearly the events unfolding. arab spring, libya, syria, somalia, sudan, iran, after having experienced osama to get afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction to get iraq, protection of civilians and humanitarianism to flatten libya and same for syria.
the western leaders dont give a phuck about protecting civilians abroad or at home. they care about profit and war makes plenty of that for some.
western special forces are the syrian free army and paid mercenaries and ciaquader.
the libyan rebels are paid mercenaries, western special forces, al ciaquader and traitors from the previous regime filling their own pockets while most libyans now struggle to feed themselves while the oil flows out for free. nato reparations.
the taliban (afghanis) are likely patriots fighting occupation. al quaeder means data base in arabic. it is the data base of the mujahadeen fighters, recruited, armed, trained and financed by the c.i.a. as a policy of zibignew bzrezinski to expel the soviets out of afghanistan.
am i so old and you so young that these events have taken place in my lifetime and not yours. am i mistaken in joining up the dots ?
how can intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards not see what is taking place unless literally, they were born yesterday and have no foreknowledge ? if you wish to prevent thermo nuclear catastrophe, you must first wise up. by becoming aware to these machinations, the politicians take fright of your awareness. while you swallow the lies and bullshit, they do more of the same. wake up.

They would have to be a damn site more than just intelligent if they were able to operate keyboards and had literally been born yesterday!!!
Maybe it's because the rest of us intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards posses sufficient intelligence not to believe all the crap written on conspiracy book i hold in my hands is a strange conspiracy website ?
i refer you to "the grand chessboard" written by zbigniew brzezinski with the sub reference on the front cover "american primacy and it's geostrategic imperatives". all that has taken place militarily in the world is laid out chronologically from 2000 to the present day and particularily under the cover of "the war on a percieved enemy" "the war on terror". this book was first published in 1997 and i first read it in 1999.
if "conspiracy" websites offer answers that concur with the facts laid out in this book then maybe the conspiracists have read it also. you want con spiracy, i give you "weapons of mass destruction", "iraq could hit british bases in cyprus within 45 minuets" "mohammed atta's green saudi passport found at ground zero" - f.b.i. "gadaffi is handing out viagra to troops for gang as a punishment" "no fly zone" = bombardment and destruction of infrastructure. but the oil is now flowing free and the libyans have nothing after having the highest standard of living in africa.
osama bin laden captured in pakistan in a house with his wife sheilding him but he was captured, killed and his body dumped in the sea - bollox. al quaeder carrying out terrorism in libya, somalia, yemen, sudan, egypt, pakistan and now syria - bollox, it's all in the plan and iran will be next.
to maintain american primacy and prevent the chinese, the russians, the indians and all the rest of the developing world from being able to challenge america's primacy and subjugate the rest of the world as insignificant mini states.
if you really want to make me a con spiracy theorist for gods sake dont read henry kissenger on "food as a weapon" or "depopulation of the third world".
thank you max for sharpening me.
Same old, same old. Nothing here that you haven't written a hundred times previously. You obviously come from the Ed Miliband school of thought whereby if you say something repeatedly the public will hopefully come to believe it.

18 Apr 2012

You can look at a situation anywhere in the world and make some pretty good predictions, some will come to be, some will not, the Arab situation has been "bubbling under" from a time long before the 1990's, even a simple man like myself can guess that in the future those supressed and starving, ill treated, tortured, wrongfully imprisoned, and having family members murders will rise up, history has seen it happen time after time.
Governments do it to themselves, supress the nation and the nation will one day say "enough is enough" Madame Guillotine takes different shapes but she still puts people to the chop.
Bodicea did it to the Romans, the French Revolution, The Russian Revolt and countless more revolutions, coups, coup de tats, uprisings whatever you want to call them.
He may be right, he may be wrong in his views, he is certainly wrong for his insults to everyone who does not aggress with him, I respect his views, I may not agree with them but he has the right to have them and tell us what they are, as do all of us, I do not respect the way he demands we agree or be "born yesterday ie stupid" for disagreeing or having differing views.
One thing history has proved, some like to be antagonists, justifying (to themselves) thier existance by extracting a reaction from others.

18 Apr 2012

OK Gulson, you state as a FACT ( your terminology and font) that 4 star General Wesley Clark ( the very same terminology used on a myriad of conspiracy sites) "predicted the overthrow of all the regimes affected by the "arab spring" in 2004". Please show us some evidence of this.
You also state "mohammed atta's green saudi passport found at ground zero" Are you sure of this? Really? If so, once again I would ask you to provide some evidence.
You also state "Libyans have nothing after having the highest standard of living in africa" Once again, are you sure of your facts? The total population of Libya enjoyed the highest standard of living in Africa? Or maybe a small minority? Which is it?
With reference to the Grand Chessboard, you claim " all that has taken place militarily in the world is laid out chronologically from 2000 to the present day" Please advise me on which pages of the book does Brzezinski make these predictions. I have read various reviews of the book, ranging from 5 stars to 1 star and therefore don't wish to waste my money purchasing it but I can access it on line, so would be grateful if you could point me to the relevant pages.
So you don't believe that Bin Laden was found in Pakistan? Again, have you any proof to back up your claim? Likewise, your claim that al Qaeda is not responsible for carrying out terrorism in all the countries you state.
And whilst on the topic of al Qaeda, are you 100% sure that it means "database" ? This is one of the claims you constantly make so let's see your proof on this.

18 Apr 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
One thing history has proved, some like to be antagonists, justifying (to themselves) thier existance by extracting a reaction from others.

In the present day, Anders Breivik being a case in point.

4 May 2012

wow intense topic.
Admitedly i skimmed over most of the responses.
Putting on my conspiracy hat, i do think that the current "arab spring" is a startergy being played quite well, to ensure Iran's potential allies are so far embroiled in there own issues that they couldnt support Iran.
Also i personally feel, if Iran feels its needs nuclear weapons to protect it self, why not let it.
We have them, the US has them, and Israel where given them by the west.
On the account of the UK being involved in something it didnt start.. i dont think we will need to be called into it.. i think we will join it out of choice. Why?
Because we think the western side will win (glory hunters). The economy is at a serious low.. and wars boost economy. It secures contracts to "re-build" Iran, it opens up new markets.
I have never seen Iran as a threat or getting involved where she didnt need to.
So, In a not vindictive but a harsh lesson way, i hope if Iran is attacked by any one she fights back and makes sure the aggressors feel her force and makes the people realise wars arnt just about blanket bombing with few casualties.. in wars we will lose blood as well as anyone, and so we should (if we declare war).
Its sad and unfortunate that we treat wars like computer games, and no one feels the impact of there orders taking human lives.

5 May 2012

Quote by fishnchips
wow intense topic.
Admitedly i skimmed over most of the responses.
Putting on my conspiracy hat, i do think that the current "arab spring" is a startergy being played quite well, to ensure Iran's potential allies are so far embroiled in there own issues that they couldnt support Iran.
Also i personally feel, if Iran feels its needs nuclear weapons to protect it self, why not let it.
We have them, the US has them, and Israel where given them by the west.
On the account of the UK being involved in something it didnt start.. i dont think we will need to be called into it.. i think we will join it out of choice. Why?
Because we think the western side will win (glory hunters). The economy is at a serious low.. and wars boost economy. It secures contracts to "re-build" Iran, it opens up new markets.
I have never seen Iran as a threat or getting involved where she didnt need to.
So, In a not vindictive but a harsh lesson way, i hope if Iran is attacked by any one she fights back and makes sure the aggressors feel her force and makes the people realise wars arnt just about blanket bombing with few casualties.. in wars we will lose blood as well as anyone, and so we should (if we declare war).
Its sad and unfortunate that we treat wars like computer games, and no one feels the impact of there orders taking human lives.

Were we talking about any other 2 countries than Iran and Israel I would agree with all you have said, but we are talking about Iran and Israel.
Iran have stated publicly that they will erase Israel from existance on the first opportunity they get.
Israel have stated that as a result of this threat they will carry out a pre-emptive strike on Irans Nuclear facilities to prevent them achieving Nuclear Military status.

6 May 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
Iran have stated publicly that they will erase Israel from existance on the first opportunity they get.
Israel have stated that as a result of this threat they will carry out a pre-emptive strike on Irans Nuclear facilities to prevent them achieving Nuclear Military status.

I really must take issue with this statement. Iran never said that at all. Misinterpretation from Arabic to English and then from what was thought to have been said to what was actually said have fuelled a tabloidesque myth.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that "the zionist regime occupying Jerusalem should vanish off the page of time" at the time he said he was quoting Ayatollah Khomeini.
That is a totally different statement from Iran will erase israel. in fact he went further in that speech to state that IF the Palestininans felt they could live with the Zionists then so be it...but hey lets not get the facts in the way of speculating about nuclear war.

6 May 2012

Quote by Rogue_trader
Iran have stated publicly that they will erase Israel from existance on the first opportunity they get.
Israel have stated that as a result of this threat they will carry out a pre-emptive strike on Irans Nuclear facilities to prevent them achieving Nuclear Military status.

I really must take issue with this statement. Iran never said that at all. Misinterpretation from Arabic to English and then from what was thought to have been said to what was actually said have fuelled a tabloidesque myth.
Take all the issue you want, that is what the forums is about, debate.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that "the zionist regime occupying Jerusalem should vanish off the page of time" at the time he said he was quoting Ayatollah Khomeini.
That is a totally different statement from Iran will erase israel. in fact he went further in that speech to state that IF the Palestininans felt they could live with the Zionists then so be it...but hey lets not get the facts in the way of speculating about nuclear war.
It is a totally different statement and the first time I have heard this version of events, I read what I stated from the media on the net and whilst I don't think anything is absolutely correct when reported by the media, at the time I read it I had not seen anyone or anything saying that the statement was anything but true however when speculating on a nuclear attack by one Nation against another I think it is fair to assume that Israel is capable and would be willing to carry out such a threat wether justified to do so or having created a mythical reason.

6 May 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
Take all the issue you want, that is what the forums is about, debate.

I am perfectly aware of the reason for existence of a forum for current affairs. Debate is about putting forth an argument. Your statement was not an argument as you put it, you used it as a truth. A big difference.
If you had said "I believe that Iran is planning to wipe Israel off the face of the earth by virtue of the speech given by President Ahmadinejad forewarning of such" and then you had quoted the translated part of the speech. Then a debate could have been had about the vitriol and Iran's real intentions.
Furthermore, Ahmadinejad is going through elections at the moment, his power is waning. I feel it was mostly pre-election posturing from a mid-term president who hasn't the backing of the religious council.

Quote by MidsCouple24
It is a totally different statement and the first time I have heard this version of events, I read what I stated from the media on the net and whilst I don't think anything is absolutely correct when reported by the media, at the time I read it I had not seen anyone or anything saying that the statement was anything but true however when speculating on a nuclear attack by one Nation against another I think it is fair to assume that Israel is capable and would be willing to carry out such a threat wether justified to do so or having created a mythical reason.

Ok, your last statement...are you telling me that Israel is planning a nuclear strike to take out the 2 enrichment plants? As nowhere do I find that information. I have combed Jewish and American foreign press and whilst they bleat about keeping "a military option open" they do not cite an attack by using nuclear weapons. This could possibly lead the entire world into a 3rd world war and Israel do not want that, they just want to keep themselves as the most powerful of all the middle east countries.

6 May 2012

Quote by Rogue_trader
Take all the issue you want, that is what the forums is about, debate.

I am perfectly aware of the reason for existence of a forum for current affairs. Debate is about putting forth an argument. Your statement was not an argument as you put it, you used it as a truth. A big difference.
If you had said "I believe that Iran is planning to wipe Israel off the face of the earth by virtue of the speech given by President Ahmadinejad forewarning of such" and then you had quoted the translated part of the speech. Then a debate could have been had about the vitriol and Iran's real intentions.
Furthermore, Ahmadinejad is going through elections at the moment, his power is waning. I feel it was mostly pre-election posturing from a mid-term president who hasn't the backing of the religious council.

Quote by MidsCouple24
It is a totally different statement and the first time I have heard this version of events, I read what I stated from the media on the net and whilst I don't think anything is absolutely correct when reported by the media, at the time I read it I had not seen anyone or anything saying that the statement was anything but true however when speculating on a nuclear attack by one Nation against another I think it is fair to assume that Israel is capable and would be willing to carry out such a threat wether justified to do so or having created a mythical reason.

Ok, your last statement...are you telling me that Israel is planning a nuclear strike to take out the 2 enrichment plants? As nowhere do I find that information. I have combed Jewish and American foreign press and whilst they bleat about keeping "a military option open" they do not cite an attack by using nuclear weapons. This could possibly lead the entire world into a 3rd world war and Israel do not want that, they just want to keep themselves as the most powerful of all the middle east countries.
That is exactly what I am saying, the Israeli premier (against the popular opinon of most Israeli citizens said that they would not allow Iran to become a Nuclear Weapons Power, he stated that they had looked at a conventional attack on Irans Nuclear Development and research plants but that this would require direct hits by no fewer than 8 of Israels "Bunker Buster" bombs with milimetre accuracy, and as everyone knows Iran has a capable Airforce and a well founded anti aircraft defence force.
If you GOOGLE "israel threaten nuclear iran" you will find many reports from various news agencies about the statements

5 Apr 2013

Quote by MidsCouple24
We are probably as close to a nuclear war now as we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Actually you probably aren't wrong. For once.

5 Apr 2013

Yes sadly the situation has not really got better, Israel we feel would use the Nuke to hit Iran and North Korea might use it on their percieved enemies. If they time it right Israel can do so without any real fear of nuclear retaliation and Korea well a lot of their leaders just don't give a fuck, they have their bunkers and the population needs trimming in their eyes lol

If I have to be right about something did it have to be this :sad:

5 Apr 2013

I think there are distinct parallels with the Cuban missile crisis. However I also know that the world has evolved. I don't believe we are on the eve of Armageddon, but then again I don't believe it's all over yet.
Our subs may already be there, who knows. What is for sure is that enormous constraint hs been shown in reent years, and this is likely to be sabre rattling.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by MidsCouple24
Yes sadly the situation has not really got better, Israel we feel would use the Nuke to hit Iran and North Korea might use it on their percieved enemies. If they time it right Israel can do so without any real fear of nuclear retaliation and Korea well a lot of their leaders just don't give a fuck, they have their bunkers and the population needs trimming in their eyes
If I have to be right about something did it have to be this :sad:

Do you live in dreamland???
No Nukes will ever be used by North Korea or Israel to start a war!!
If a nuke is ever launched, that is it for your country, finito, game over, take your ball home and back to living in caves. There is not one regime who will swop their cushy powerbase for bunkers thereafter.
Do not confuse rhetoric and brinksmanship with a declaration of war.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
I think there are distinct parallels with the Cuban missile crisis. However I also know that the world has evolved. I don't believe we are on the eve of Armageddon, but then again I don't believe it's all over yet.
Our subs may already be there, who knows. What is for sure is that enormous constraint hs been shown in reent years, and this is likely to be sabre rattling.

You are right Trev it is just sabre rattling.
We only have 1 sub at sea with nuclear strike capability and she has better things to do than sit on the Korean peninsula. The USA on the other hand...they may have an Ohio class sitting somewhere close by. And it only needs one of those babies to lay waste a nation.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Do you live in dreamland???
No Nukes will ever be used!!
If a nuke is ever launched, that is it, finito, game over, take your ball home and back to living in caves. There is not one regime on earth who plans to use them.
Do not confuse rhetoric and brinksmanship with a declaration of war.

I have to agree with you Rogue. Has North Korea got the guts to fire first? A nuke bomb I mean. This seems to be a bit of posturing and we all hope is is not as mad as a March Hare in April. If and it is a very big if, they do fire the first nuke, the USA must flatten the North in it's entirety and quickly. In this kind of war human life will be lost on a huge scale and I would rather it be North Korea's people than ours.

5 Apr 2013

They have the capacity to make a very low yield nuclear device, they do not have the capacity to launch it.
It isn't like conventional ordnance that can be attached to the end of a missile or rocket and the kinetic energy set it off, nukes don't do that.
Also the fact that NK has to blather about starting up its Nuclear reactor plant to make the fissile material in the first place tells us that they haven't got enough material to even make a low yield at present.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
They have the capacity to make a very low yield nuclear device, they do not have the capacity to launch it.
It isn't like conventional ordnance that can be attached to the end of a missile or rocket and the kinetic energy set it off, nukes don't do that.
Also the fact that NK has to blather about starting up its Nuclear reactor plant to make the fissile material in the first place tells us that they haven't got enough material to even make a low yield at present.

I hope you're right Rogue, but then again Tony Bliar stated that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. What that means to me is that nobody knows for sure what North Korea do or do not have, as they are a very secretive country indeed. It is playing a dangerous game by making out it has something if it does not, as that game plan could badly backfire on them.
In all this what is South Korea supposed to do? They are obviously just like Israel in the pocket of the USA, but surely there could become a time when South Korea decides enough of these threats, as living with a daily threat like this can be difficult.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
We only have 1 sub at sea with nuclear strike capability and she has better things to do than sit on the Korean peninsula. The USA on the other hand...they may have an Ohio class sitting somewhere close by. And it only needs one of those babies to lay waste a nation.

Not quite correct. We have a minimum of one submarine at sea at any one time, however their movements are generally kept secret and therefore there is potential for there to be more than one out there somewhere. for example was reported in the Indian ocean last month, well within strike range of Korea.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
We only have 1 sub at sea with nuclear strike capability and she has better things to do than sit on the Korean peninsula. The USA on the other hand...they may have an Ohio class sitting somewhere close by. And it only needs one of those babies to lay waste a nation.

Not quite correct. We have a minimum of one submarine at sea at any one time, however their movements are generally kept secret and therefore there is potential for there to be more than one out there somewhere. for example was reported in the Indian ocean last month, well within strike range of Korea.
I suppose it would defeat the object of the exercise to tell people where a submarine is don't you think? lol

:lol:

5 Apr 2013

Trenchant is a t-class...
You need a vanguard class boat for ballistic missile work. We have 4, I know where 3 are. The other, that is on patrol, well not even the Admiralty knows exactly...which is just how it should be.

5 Apr 2013

Flipping heck people.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Flipping heck people.

Yep and several Aegis destroyers have moved in to the area. News reports from America are shuffling their papers rather nervously and have stated the pentagon was a little hasty in its comments about NK...and the Pentagon thinks they it is their inflammatory comments that have stirred up this situation.

5 Apr 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Flipping heck people.

Yep and several Aegis destroyers have moved in to the area. News reports from America are shuffling their papers rather nervously and have stated the pentagon was a little hasty in its comments about NK...and the Pentagon thinks they it is their inflammatory comments that have stirred up this situation.
This is scary stuff Rogue.
China is Amassing troops on the borders, and IF NK fires the first shot who knows where it will end. Maybe now we can understand Israel's take on mad Iran.