Sorry, couldn't resist these two clips which seem so relevant to the thread, each for their own reasons...
Now, I bet you never thought of me as a rebel....
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Can people learn to do the quote thing pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
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Can people learn to do the quote thing pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
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Can people learn to do the quote thing pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
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Can people learn to do the quote thing pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
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Can people learn to do the quote thing pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
Quote by kentswingers777
Such a grown up reaction.:loon:
Eccentric....
In popular usage, eccentricity refers to unusual or odd behavior and "socially awkward" on the part of an individual. This behavior would typically be perceived as unusual or unnecessary, without being demonstrably maladaptive. Eccentricity is contrasted with "normal" behavior, the nearly universal means by which individuals in society solve given problems and pursue certain priorities in everyday life. People who consistently display benignly eccentric behavior are labeled as "eccentrics".
Quote by Bluefish2009
It's gone further than that blue.....nothing there at all now
Quote by flower411
OK - If you can buy coal - for the sake of argument:
1) For £15 / tonne from Australia
2) For £12 / tonne from Poland
3) For £20 / tonne from UK
Where would you get your coal from?
Fact is coal could (and still can) be mined and shipped half way around the world cheaper than it could have been taken out of the UK mines because of outdated and uneconomic working practices.
So ---- Why keep an outdated and filthy industry that pollutes and contributes massively to Global Warming?
The UK was unprepared for the arrival of the global economy. The Unions fought to keep and enhance protectionist working practices whilst Japanese factories churned out motor vehicles with barely a human interaction and ships manned with "cheap" crews took all of the UK freight and inexpensive coal from overseas made our mines uneconomical to keep open.
Industrial evolution and global economics - not appreciating these issues is common amongst the socialist working class because of long standing beliefs that Britain is truly great. It was, not anymore though.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
OK - If you can buy coal - for the sake of argument:
1) For £15 / tonne from Australia
2) For £12 / tonne from Poland
3) For £20 / tonne from UK
Where would you get your coal from?
Fact is coal could (and still can) be mined and shipped half way around the world cheaper than it could have been taken out of the UK mines because of outdated and uneconomic working practices.
So ---- Why keep an outdated and filthy industry that pollutes and contributes massively to Global Warming?
The UK was unprepared for the arrival of the global economy. The Unions fought to keep and enhance protectionist working practices whilst Japanese factories churned out motor vehicles with barely a human interaction and ships manned with "cheap" crews took all of the UK freight and inexpensive coal from overseas made our mines uneconomical to keep open.
Industrial evolution and global economics - not appreciating these issues is common amongst the socialist working class because of long standing beliefs that Britain is truly great. It was, not anymore though.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
It's gone further than that blue.....nothing there at all now
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
OK - If you can buy coal - for the sake of argument:
1) For £15 / tonne from Australia
2) For £12 / tonne from Poland
3) For £20 / tonne from UK
Where would you get your coal from?
Fact is coal could (and still can) be mined and shipped half way around the world cheaper than it could have been taken out of the UK mines because of outdated and uneconomic working practices.
So ---- Why keep an outdated and filthy industry that pollutes and contributes massively to Global Warming?
The UK was unprepared for the arrival of the global economy. The Unions fought to keep and enhance protectionist working practices whilst Japanese factories churned out motor vehicles with barely a human interaction and ships manned with "cheap" crews took all of the UK freight and inexpensive coal from overseas made our mines uneconomical to keep open.
Industrial evolution and global economics - not appreciating these issues is common amongst the socialist working class because of long standing beliefs that Britain is truly great. It was, not anymore though.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
It's gone further than that blue.....nothing there at all now
Quote by Too Hot
I am talking about being competitive in a global economy and controlling costs. If you ran a window cleaning business and a guy up the road started up in competition and undercut you by 50% what would you do about it? You would have to react or go out of business.
This started to happen to many traditional industries in our country in the 1970's and continues to this day. If you are not competitive you die and unfortunately it is a natural law of evolution in the jungle and in business as well.
Sometimes you have to see the writing on the wall and accept that change has to come about because the world is constantly changing around us and these days the world is a very small place indeed.
Quote by Too Hot
If we can't compete perhaps we should try to raise their working classes to our level rather than insisting our working classes are lowered to theirs
Quote by Too Hot
I am talking about being competitive in a global economy and controlling costs. If you ran a window cleaning business and a guy up the road started up in competition and undercut you by 50% what would you do about it? You would have to react or go out of business.
This started to happen to many traditional industries in our country in the 1970's and continues to this day. If you are not competitive you die and unfortunately it is a natural law of evolution in the jungle and in business as well.
Sometimes you have to see the writing on the wall and accept that change has to come about because the world is constantly changing around us and these days the world is a very small place indeed.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If we can't compete perhaps we should try to raise their working classes to our level rather than insisting our working classes are lowered to theirs
Quote by Too Hot
I am talking about being competitive in a global economy and controlling costs. If you ran a window cleaning business and a guy up the road started up in competition and undercut you by 50% what would you do about it? You would have to react or go out of business.
This started to happen to many traditional industries in our country in the 1970's and continues to this day. If you are not competitive you die and unfortunately it is a natural law of evolution in the jungle and in business as well.
Sometimes you have to see the writing on the wall and accept that change has to come about because the world is constantly changing around us and these days the world is a very small place indeed.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If we can't compete perhaps we should try to raise their working classes to our level rather than insisting our working classes are lowered to theirs
Quote by Too Hot
I am talking about being competitive in a global economy and controlling costs. If you ran a window cleaning business and a guy up the road started up in competition and undercut you by 50% what would you do about it? You would have to react or go out of business.
This started to happen to many traditional industries in our country in the 1970's and continues to this day. If you are not competitive you die and unfortunately it is a natural law of evolution in the jungle and in business as well.
Sometimes you have to see the writing on the wall and accept that change has to come about because the world is constantly changing around us and these days the world is a very small place indeed.
Quote by Too Hot
There is no difference between the window cleaner and a global economy - none at all. What should have happened in the 1970's is that Austin Rover (as an example - but transfer concept to Steel works, shipping industry, coal mining, ship building etc etc) could have reacted the same way that BMW and Mercedes did and responded with efficient production of high quality vehicles offering an edge over what was being mass produced cheaper in Japan. In the UK, the Unions resisted all attempts at mass mechanisation and modernisation if it meant the loss of one job. Result - shit cars, shit service, appalling industrial relations and now a complete lack of a motor industry "owned" in this country.
We can't change the world because it does not suit us just and our way of comfortable living we have to be prepared to react and change and sometimes that change is not pallatable. Many of our industries simply could not change because of the Union stranglehold over them and as a result many of those industries are now gone from this country.
I would have thought this lesson is as clear as daylight to anyone 45 years and over who has lived and worked through the last thirty years or so.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
There is no difference between the window cleaner and a global economy - none at all. What should have happened in the 1970's is that Austin Rover (as an example - but transfer concept to Steel works, shipping industry, coal mining, ship building etc etc) could have reacted the same way that BMW and Mercedes did and responded with efficient production of high quality vehicles offering an edge over what was being mass produced cheaper in Japan. In the UK, the Unions resisted all attempts at mass mechanisation and modernisation if it meant the loss of one job. Result - shit cars, shit service, appalling industrial relations and now a complete lack of a motor industry "owned" in this country.
We can't change the world because it does not suit us just and our way of comfortable living we have to be prepared to react and change and sometimes that change is not pallatable. Many of our industries simply could not change because of the Union stranglehold over them and as a result many of those industries are now gone from this country.
I would have thought this lesson is as clear as daylight to anyone 45 years and over who has lived and worked through the last thirty years or so.