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Quote by deancannock
Anyone watch Panorama last night ??....seems some farmers doing very nicely !!!
paid for doing nothing..I'll have some of that
Move to the country, and buy a farm then
good luck :thumbup:Of coarse what you say is not strictly true, the problem lies with those in Government who designed the system. As your link points out :wink:
Six-figure subsidies meant to help struggling farmers are being paid out to some of Britain's richest landowners, BBC Panorama has found.
Recipients of the EU subsidy include the Queen and the Duke of Westminster.
The programme requested details of the number of landowners claiming a slice of the subsidy in the UK.
The EU's Agriculture Commissioner has called for a cap of about £250,000 for each farmer and measures to ensure that they are actively farming their land.
Privacy rules mean that the names of most recipients are not known, but anonymised details were given showing how many landowners across the UK received more than the cap proposed by Agriculture Commissioner Dacian Ciolos.
'Honest farmers suffer'
The data from England, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland shows that 889 landowners received more than £250,000. Of those, 133 were given more than £500,000 and 47 of those were given more than £1m in subsidy.
Jack Thurston, who campaigns for reforms to the Common Agriculture Policy's subsidy, said: "These are very wealthy people and if we're in the business of handing out public money to farmers because they're poor, these are not the kind of people that we'd be handing that money to."
Mr Thurston said the system is flawed because it rewards large landowners based on the number of hectares they own, not on financial need.
But if you do decide to move to the country side;
Moving to the countryside can be more punishment than reward
Like a porn channel that peddles varying versions of the same basic fantasy, British TV offers its viewers a gentle, sun-kissed, urban view of life in the countryside. The birds and woodland creatures are there on Springwatch. The Making of the Countryside brings us the rolling fields and moorland of the landscape. Interesting little rural issues and conundrums appear on Countryfile. Human life away from the cities is represented on Emmerdale or in the latest leafy detective drama.
Not before time, this sustained propaganda has been challenged. Launching a campaign called "Over the Hill", the Rural Media Company has warned those who are considering retiring to the country – almost 60 per cent of the people they surveyed – to look at the realities of what they would be facing.
"Never mind the rural dream, I still have the nightmares," wrote the author Mavis Cheek, supporting the campaign with an article in The Daily Telegraph. Her 10 years away from London had opened her eyes to aspects of rural life rarely covered in Escape to the Country: unacceptable attitudes by builders towards women, lack of local facilities, boys on motorbikes, racism, a dependence on cars, pheasants that wake you up at five in the morning, tractors, gardens which keep growing and growing
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
I dunno blue I just know that round here badger hunting (illegal) happens at night.
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i don't want this to come as a shock but badgers are nocturnal so would it not make sense to hunt them at night
Sadly Ben seams to live in a very high crime area
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Quote by Bluefish2009
I dunno blue I just know that round here badger hunting (illegal) happens at night.
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
i don't want this to come as a shock but badgers are nocturnal so would it not make sense to hunt them at night
Sadly Ben seams to live in a very high crime area
sod being on night's in bens area...... being labeled as up to no good :eeek:
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I hope these low lives are caught and face the full force of the law
Within days he believes animal activists started targeting his farm. While police say there does not appear to be a link at this stage, they are investigating the "extremely serious" offences.
In the first incident a barn housing 52 newborn calves erupted into flames during the middle of the night.
Mr Stewart, who had farmed without incident for eight years, and his wife Marie, 58, were woken by the smell of burning about 3am on February 1 .
They dashed outside and evacuated the calves, some as young as one week old, and dialled 999.
Firefighters extinguished the flames but one tonne of powdered milk, costing £1,400, was destroyed and serious damage caused to the roof.
Believing it was an accident at first, his fears were compounded when he found his milk had been poisoned.
"I can't believe there are people in the country or even in the countryside who can do such an act," he said.
"If they want to give a message I'm sure there are far better ways of doing it."
"It was very frightening. Glass was shattering and the roof was falling in while we were getting the calves out."The second attack, at on February 20, led to another fire, causing £27,500 worth of damage.
A straw barn, containing a muck spreader, 100 tonnes of straw and 29.5 tonnes of fertiliser, was burned down.
Milk has twice been contaminated by a currently unknown substance and Mr Stewart has been forced to throw away more than 44,000 pints of milk. The family will also have to pay £6,000 in costs to refund producers
Within days he believes animal activists started targeting his farm. While police say there does not appear to be a link at this stage, they are investigating the "extremely serious" offences.
In the first incident a barn housing 52 newborn calves erupted into flames during the middle of the night.
Mr Stewart, who had farmed without incident for eight years, and his wife Marie, 58, were woken by the smell of burning about 3am on February 1 .
They dashed outside and evacuated the calves, some as young as one week old, and dialled 999.
Firefighters extinguished the flames but one tonne of powdered milk, costing £1,400, was destroyed and serious damage caused to the roof.
Believing it was an accident at first, his fears were compounded when he found his milk had been poisoned.
"I can't believe there are people in the country or even in the countryside who can do such an act," he said.
"If they want to give a message I'm sure there are far better ways of doing it."
"It was very frightening. Glass was shattering and the roof was falling in while we were getting the calves out."The second attack, at on February 20, led to another fire, causing £27,500 worth of damage.
A straw barn, containing a muck spreader, 100 tonnes of straw and 29.5 tonnes of fertiliser, was burned down.
Milk has twice been contaminated by a currently unknown substance and Mr Stewart has been forced to throw away more than 44,000 pints of milk. The family will also have to pay £6,000 in costs to refund producers
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Natural England has insisted many of its concerns over the badger cull "have been addressed" by the Government after private documents expressed concern that entire clans of the animal could be destroyed in the South West.
The agency, which will issue licences to groups of farmers under the policy, was obliged to release advice it presented to the Department for Environment, Farming and Rural Affairs (Defra), following a Freedom of Information (FOI) request submitted by the Labour Party.
The agency, which will issue licences to groups of farmers under the policy, was obliged to release advice it presented to the Department for Environment, Farming and Rural Affairs (Defra), following a Freedom of Information (FOI) request submitted by the Labour Party.
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Welsh Assembly overturn previous decision to introduce culling:
Interesting that one of the reasons given is that a cull would be open to a legal challenge under the Animal Health Act 1981, I think on the grounds that as per Section 21 of the Act the Govt have to demonstrate that a cull is necessary in order to 'eliminate, or substantially reduce' incidence of TB in cattle. I think the Wesh Assembly might be right on that now that there's a licensed vaccine available that could be said to make a cull unnecessary, and right to be concerned that even if no vaccine was available a cull would quite probably fail the 'eliminate, or substantially reduce' test. Gonna be interesting to see if this leads to further developments on the plans for a cull in England.
Interesting that one of the reasons given is that a cull would be open to a legal challenge under the Animal Health Act 1981, I think on the grounds that as per Section 21 of the Act the Govt have to demonstrate that a cull is necessary in order to 'eliminate, or substantially reduce' incidence of TB in cattle. I think the Wesh Assembly might be right on that now that there's a licensed vaccine available that could be said to make a cull unnecessary, and right to be concerned that even if no vaccine was available a cull would quite probably fail the 'eliminate, or substantially reduce' test. Gonna be interesting to see if this leads to further developments on the plans for a cull in England.
Quote by Ben_Minx
I dunno blue I just know that round here badger hunting (illegal) happens at night.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
i don't want this to come as a shock but badgers are nocturnal so would it not make sense to hunt them at night
Quote by Ben_Minx
Welsh farmers are still hoping that the marking will consist of a small luminous target roundel.
well will be ideal for that night hunting i suppose.
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Quote by neilinleeds
Welsh Assembly overturn previous decision to introduce culling:
Interesting that one of the reasons given is that a cull would be open to a legal challenge under the Animal Health Act 1981, I think on the grounds that as per Section 21 of the Act the Govt have to demonstrate that a cull is necessary in order to 'eliminate, or substantially reduce' incidence of TB in cattle. I think the Wesh Assembly might be right on that now that there's a licensed vaccine available that could be said to make a cull unnecessary, and right to be concerned that even if no vaccine was available a cull would quite probably fail the 'eliminate, or substantially reduce' test. Gonna be interesting to see if this leads to further developments on the plans for a cull in England.
I shall follow this with great interest, thanks for the link
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Quote by Ben_Minx
"Officials hope to start vaccinating within two to three months.
Badgers will be trapped in cages and marked so they are not vaccinated multiple times."
Welsh farmers are still hoping that the marking will consist of a small luminous target roundel.
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We cull ruddy ducks to please the Spanish. Strange we're so hesitant about badgers
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In December, finalised plans were announced by Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) for a cull - initially in pilot areas - to try to curb the spread of tuberculosis (TB) in cattle.
However the Badger Trust is going to the High Court, likely to be heard in June, with a legal challenge and it's understood they will argue for Defra's decision to be overturned based on three grounds.
:arrow: it points to Defra projections that the incidence of TB could be reduced by 12-16% over nine years. The Protection of Badgers Act says licences to kill can be granted for "preventing the spread of disease" - and the trust argues that the slow-down in the rate of increase, or "reduction in new incidence", projected by Defra does not qualify as "prevention".
:arrow: the trust argues that government plans for trials to involve "free shooting" of badgers in pilot areas - shooting them as they roam - is likely to be ineffective or a hazard to public safety. It says that, after the pilots, farmers may be forced to trap badgers before shooting them which it says could be 10 times more expensive than free shooting, thus would damage the government's economic case.
:arrow: the trust says the guidance given to government agency Natural England - which Defra has tasked with issuing culling licences - is unlawful.
So another government 'headline grabber' like taxes on pasties, Charity giving, etc. that might not happen
However the Badger Trust is going to the High Court, likely to be heard in June, with a legal challenge and it's understood they will argue for Defra's decision to be overturned based on three grounds.
:arrow: it points to Defra projections that the incidence of TB could be reduced by 12-16% over nine years. The Protection of Badgers Act says licences to kill can be granted for "preventing the spread of disease" - and the trust argues that the slow-down in the rate of increase, or "reduction in new incidence", projected by Defra does not qualify as "prevention".
:arrow: the trust argues that government plans for trials to involve "free shooting" of badgers in pilot areas - shooting them as they roam - is likely to be ineffective or a hazard to public safety. It says that, after the pilots, farmers may be forced to trap badgers before shooting them which it says could be 10 times more expensive than free shooting, thus would damage the government's economic case.
:arrow: the trust says the guidance given to government agency Natural England - which Defra has tasked with issuing culling licences - is unlawful.
So another government 'headline grabber' like taxes on pasties, Charity giving, etc. that might not happen
