Racism or simply facing facts ?

12 Jan 2011

Quote by Bluefish2009
I will freely admit that I am not a big fan of stop and search, I see it as one of the many tools used by Labour to remove a little more of our liberty.
However, we currently have it, I believe in a limited form now. Our current/biggest terrorist threat is not from white mums. Any statistics will reflect that
Photographers suffer also

Again I am forced to agree with you bluefish. If, for example, I were an officer in the Anti-Terrorist Squad, I would stop and search Moslems, not white fox-hunters lol

quite simply because it is Moslems who are most likely to plant bombs and not white fox hunters.
The thing is, that most white people are paranoid about being 'racist'-(despite not actually knowing what the term means- a racist is one who believes in the supremacy of a particular race, NOT one who dislikes other races) Several years ago, a reporter from the Daily Mail asserted that gang-rapes were far more likely to be committed by black youths than white youths. Now I loathe the Daily Mail, but soon after this there was a programme on the television hosted by Darcus Howe who is a black guests included someone from the Commission for Racial Equality and several black mothers. Darcus Howe asked the black mothers whether they would be more worried if they learnt that their daughters were encountering a gang of black youths or white youths and they all replied 'black youths'.
The representative from the CRE, who called himself' black' but was no more 'black' than I am when I have been in the sun for a few weeks tried to argue this. Darcus Howe asked him where he had been born and brought up and his answer was a town in Kent which, as Darcus Howe pointed out, was a white, middle class then told him that he was born and brought up in Trenchtown Jamaica,and that in his experience gang was rife there. He then asked the representative from the CRE whether he knew what a certain West Indian term (which I cannot recall) meant. The latter said he did, and that it was a slang term for gang . Darcus Howe then asked him whether he agreed that if a culture has a slang term for something like gang- it is because what it describes is common in that culture. He ended the programme by saying that gang- is a black problem and black people need to address it. Had he been white he would have been called a racist.
I am sure there will be a flurry of protests from other users of this forum so let me pre-empt some of them. Yes I know that , football hooliganism and random drunken violence are crimes carried out mainly by white people, not black gang is more likely to be carried ot by blacks than whites and bombings are more likely to be carried out by Moslems than white mothers.

12 Jan 2011

I remember watching that programme, I believe the producer was an asain woman, and when she was asked why she did not include gang rapes by white men in the programme, her reply was that she could find no evidence of white men commiting gang .
She did however say that there was plenty of white men on thier own commiting .
I cannot ever remember a black male being convicted of being a , it seems to be a white, middle aged male crime.
Lets just say a 4 yr child has gone missing from my local area, there would be no point the police stoping a car full of young black males in it to search for the missing child, however, they would be justified in stopping me in my car, a white middle aged man on his own, I fit the overall profile of a child abducter.
If I did get stopped and the police explained why they had stopped me, I would not be offended or start screaming racism.
However, if someone in my local area was robbed by a group of black or white hoodies, there would be no point in stopping me in my car.
Back to the OP's original question, it does seem that the 'grooming' of white girls for sex does seem to be an asian problem.

12 Jan 2011

Quote by sexyslut79
I will freely admit that I am not a big fan of stop and search, I see it as one of the many tools used by Labour to remove a little more of our liberty.
However, we currently have it, I believe in a limited form now. Our current/biggest terrorist threat is not from white mums. Any statistics will reflect that
Photographers suffer also

Again I am forced to agree with you bluefish. If, for example, I were an officer in the Anti-Terrorist Squad, I would stop and search Moslems, not white fox-hunters lol

quite simply because it is Moslems who are most likely to plant bombs and not white fox hunters.
The thing is, that most white people are paranoid about being 'racist'-(despite not actually knowing what the term means- a racist is one who believes in the supremacy of a particular race, NOT one who dislikes other races) Several years ago, a reporter from the Daily Mail asserted that gang-rapes were far more likely to be committed by black youths than white youths. Now I loathe the Daily Mail, but soon after this there was a programme on the television hosted by Darcus Howe who is a black guests included someone from the Commission for Racial Equality and several black mothers. Darcus Howe asked the black mothers whether they would be more worried if they learnt that their daughters were encountering a gang of black youths or white youths and they all replied 'black youths'.
The representative from the CRE, who called himself' black' but was no more 'black' than I am when I have been in the sun for a few weeks tried to argue this. Darcus Howe asked him where he had been born and brought up and his answer was a town in Kent which, as Darcus Howe pointed out, was a white, middle class then told him that he was born and brought up in Trenchtown Jamaica,and that in his experience gang was rife there. He then asked the representative from the CRE whether he knew what a certain West Indian term (which I cannot recall) meant. The latter said he did, and that it was a slang term for gang . Darcus Howe then asked him whether he agreed that if a culture has a slang term for something like gang- it is because what it describes is common in that culture. He ended the programme by saying that gang- is a black problem and black people need to address it. Had he been white he would have been called a racist.
I am sure there will be a flurry of protests from other users of this forum so let me pre-empt some of them. Yes I know that , football hooliganism and random drunken violence are crimes carried out mainly by white people, not black gang is more likely to be carried ot by blacks than whites and bombings are more likely to be carried out by Moslems than white mothers.
We must stop agreeing like this, and a funny thrown in for good measure, I like it :thumbup:

17 Jan 2011

I wouldn't say muslim women don't fool around. some of them are really clever operators and get down to some real feisty sex. and if they get a hankering for you, they will just come and get you. But on account of their limited availability, you need to see the signs and act quickly.

17 Jan 2011

Quote by duncanlondon
I wouldn't say muslim women don't fool around. some of them are really clever operators and get down to some real feisty sex. and if they get a hankering for you, they will just come and get you. But on account of their limited availability, you need to see the signs and act quickly.

When I worked as a doorman a few yrs back in cambridge, we had loads of femal asian students come in the club, I got quite friendly with one(Itried my best to get inher knickers, but no joy!).
She told me alot of asian girls shag/drink whilst at uni and when they go back home they become good muslim girls in front of thier family.

17 Jan 2011

Quote by browning
I wouldn't say muslim women don't fool around. some of them are really clever operators and get down to some real feisty sex. and if they get a hankering for you, they will just come and get you. But on account of their limited availability, you need to see the signs and act quickly.

When I worked as a doorman a few yrs back in cambridge, we had loads of femal asian students come in the club, I got quite friendly with one(Itried my best to get inher knickers, but no joy!).
She told me alot of asian girls shag/drink whilst at uni and when they go back home they become good muslim girls in front of thier family.
Like 90% of all girls I would guess

18 Jan 2011

Quote by sexyslut79
If, for example, I were an officer in the Anti-Terrorist Squad, I would stop and search Moslems, not white fox-hunters quite simply because it is Moslems who are most likely to plant bombs and not white fox hunters.

How would you identify these muslims ???Muslims are not an ethnic group they are members of a religion,they come from all races,classes,and countries.....how do you identify a muslim??the turban?? no he'd be a sikh or do you as a police officer just target the sand-niggers and pakis ? because they look a bit like terrorists....you've got to admire modern police intelligence techniques eh?

18 Jan 2011

Seems to me that it is like the swinging situation.
It is nothing to do with racism but all about sexual preference.
Groom a white girl to because you find white girls more sexually attractive.
Put on your profile "seeking black males" because your attracted sexually to black males.
How many women are happily married to white men but seek black males for sexual purposes.
How many people will not meet asian or black people because they don't find them sexually attractive, yet can introduce you to many of them that are personal friends or work colleagues whose social company and friendship they enjoy.
I would have thought that swingers above everyone would understand the difference between wanting to have sex with someone of a different ethniticity and wanting to spend thier lives with them.

18 Jan 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If, for example, I were an officer in the Anti-Terrorist Squad, I would stop and search Moslems, not white fox-hunters quite simply because it is Moslems who are most likely to plant bombs and not white fox hunters.

How would you identify these muslims ???Muslims are not an ethnic group they are members of a religion,they come from all races,classes,and countries.....how do you identify a muslim??the turban?? no he'd be a sikh or do you as a police officer just target the sand-niggers and pakis ? because they look a bit like terrorists....you've got to admire modern police intelligence techniques eh?
Offer them a pork scratching and show them a picture of mohammed. If they refuse the tasty pork snack and turn away from the picture - cavity search :lol:

23 Jan 2011

Quote by Mr-Powers
The only cultural issue as i see is that Asian girls retain their virtue and chastity and adhere to a moral code of behaviour meaning that hot and lusting Asian males find their own kind off limits. They instead turn to white girls or women who have a more liberal outlook and where they perceive they will have a better chance to score.
Ask any Egyptian, Turkish or Spanish Waiter who they tend to look out for when their libido rises in the summer months - English female tourists.
Some pretty broad generalisations here but the cultural issue is that we have perhaps allowed our children to become to promiscuous and maybe there are lessons to be learned from the Asian far as the two guys are concerned, they are simply predatory criminals of which there is no racial stereotyping.

Really? so maybe we should also use threats of violence and so called honour killings to keep our daughters in check! The Asian community isn't perfect no more than we are, so i'd rather not take tips from them.
Mainstrean Muslims are generally more family and learning focused with a good work ethic than their WASP counterparts. Extremes on both sides - of course, but respect runs deeper in Muslim values than it does in ours. Regrettably, we are brainwashed by mainstream media as to what being a Muslim really means and unfortunately Abu Hamza and the radical minority always get the airwaves - not the respectful, respected and normal majority.