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A spokeswoman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission said: “Under the Equality Act 2010, if the club set up especially for people from a particular ethnic or national group then discrimination on the basis of nationality or ethnic or national origin is not unlawful, but discrimination based on colour is prohibited.”
Orgasminator
If the group is set up as "a meeting place for women and children of different nationalities" then "British" is a nationality that's what it says on my passport.
If I was excluded form that group .....
If I was excluded form that group .....
Sex God
Yes, racism!
Sex God
Clearly racist and clearly stupidly self-defeating.
The group is called 'making links' - but they are trying to stop the members making links with one specific group -and pardon me for being controversial - the very group they SHOULD be making links with. British may not be better - but they (we) are in the majority. It makes sense to make links in this direction as well as between other groups.
The group is called 'making links' - but they are trying to stop the members making links with one specific group -and pardon me for being controversial - the very group they SHOULD be making links with. British may not be better - but they (we) are in the majority. It makes sense to make links in this direction as well as between other groups.
Sex God
How can it be racist ?? unless the only people you believe to be british are white .....british people come from all races and religions....see the clue is in the word RACISM this is pertinent to race not nationality.
An idiot short sighted policy it may be but racist?? clearly not
An idiot short sighted policy it may be but racist?? clearly not
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
How can it be racist ?? unless the only people you believe to be british are white .....british people come from all races and religions....see the clue is in the word RACISM this is pertinent to race not nationality.
An idiot short sighted policy it may be but racist?? clearly not
It may not be the correct definition of racism, but when people are excluded or discriminated against because of the colour of there skin, that for me is close enough
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
How can it be racist ?? unless the only people you believe to be british are white .....british people come from all races and religions....see the clue is in the word RACISM this is pertinent to race not nationality.
An idiot short sighted policy it may be but racist?? clearly not
From the article:
'Miss Knightley, who said she was “humiliated” by the incident, began to question the rules of the group when she saw that her British friend – who has Malaysian and Indian parents – was allowed to stay.'
Clearly, from the above quote, they are using skin colour as a guide to nationality.
So, according to the article:
'A spokeswoman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission said: “Under the Equality Act 2010, if the club set up especially for people from a particular ethnic or national group then discrimination on the basis of nationality or ethnic or national origin is not unlawful, but discrimination based on colour is prohibited.”'
- they are discriminating on the basis of colour and should be dealt with accordingly. Either way you look at it, it's discrimination.
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
It may not be the correct definition of racism, but when people are excluded or discriminated against because of the colour of there skin, that for me is close enough
The Question was is it racism Blue, as I said clearly not, it is obviously discrimination, they are not the same thing Blue and should not be mistaken as such , to do so perpetuates and feeds the lie that we as white people are becoming a downtrodden minority in our own country this is patently untrue and only a cursory glance at the world around you will show you this.
Quote by Freckledbird
From the article:
'Miss Knightley, who said she was “humiliated” by the incident, began to question the rules of the group when she saw that her British friend – who has Malaysian and Indian parents – was allowed to stay.'
Clearly, from the above quote, they are using skin colour as a guide to nationality.
So, according to the article:
'A spokeswoman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission said: “Under the Equality Act 2010, if the club set up especially for people from a particular ethnic or national group then discrimination on the basis of nationality or ethnic or national origin is not unlawful, but discrimination based on colour is prohibited.”'
they are discriminating on the basis of colour and should be dealt with accordingly. Either way you look at it, it's discrimination.
It is undeniably discrimination, I don't and haven't argued otherwise , I haven't argued that the group isn't run by idiots. My point is that the groups stated policy is not racist, the fact that someone on a particular day didn't ask the right questions to the right people does not change this.
The point and aim of this article (and so many others) is as I said to perpetuate and fuel the myth that you are a downtrodden discriminated against minority in your own country......the fact that so many unquestioningly accept this as the truth, only goes to show what a sorry state we're in. As the Sex Pistols once so rightly said......Blind acceptance is a sign of useless fools who stand in line.
Sex God
One view of racism from here;
Racism is the belief that the genetic factors which constitute race, ethnicity, or nationality are a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that ethnic differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. Racism's effects are called "racial discrimination." In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.
Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, although anyone may be discriminated against on an ethnic or cultural basis, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnicity discrimination.
There is some evidence that the meaning of the term has changed over time, and that earlier definitions of racism involved the simple belief that human populations are divided into separate races. Many biologists, anthropologists, and sociologists reject this taxonomy
Racism is the belief that the genetic factors which constitute race, ethnicity, or nationality are a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that ethnic differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. Racism's effects are called "racial discrimination." In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.
Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, although anyone may be discriminated against on an ethnic or cultural basis, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnicity discrimination.
There is some evidence that the meaning of the term has changed over time, and that earlier definitions of racism involved the simple belief that human populations are divided into separate races. Many biologists, anthropologists, and sociologists reject this taxonomy
Sex God
Or just a definition of the word ...so what is the point you're trying to make Blue ?
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Or just a definition of the word what is the point you're trying to make Blue ?
That not everyone views things the same way or as black and white as perhaps you do :giggle:
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
Or just a definition of the word what is the point you're trying to make Blue ?
That not everyone views things the same way or as black and white as perhaps you do :giggle:
A word has a meaning not an interpretation.....are you saying that this whole thing boils down to a misunderstanding of a word ?? as far as I know we are being asked if someone has been discriminated against because of their race ......as far as I can see the answer remains no
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Or just a definition of the word what is the point you're trying to make Blue ?
That not everyone views things the same way or as black and white as perhaps you do :giggle:
A word has a meaning not an interpretation.....are you saying that this whole thing boils down to a misunderstanding of a word ?? as far as I know we are being asked if someone has been discriminated against because of their race ......as far as I can see the answer remains no
So does racism exsist at all then?
The origin of race is a term that is related to different animals, such as the Human race, or a race of dogs, or cats. It is specifically related to the fundamental differences between different species. Ethnicity, or ethnic background, on the other hand is determined by the different Ideals, nationalities, and in some cases is determined by the color of skin in the region. take, for example, the Chinese, Japanese, and other Asian nations. They are darker than white people, but lighter than, say, an African. They also practice different religion, and have differing social structures than each other. That is the fundamental difference between them. they are not two separate entities altogether; they are just people from different regions of the world. So "race" is not truly applicable to what people apply it to today, and it is not a replacement for the word "ethnicity."
Sex God
.... A words meaning and it's history (or even historical use ) are not the same thing .....I hope this answers you both Flower and Blue
Sex God
context is as you say everything...that surely then is the interpretation of far more than just the word ,but you know me....just more bullshit.
Seems once more we are deflected from the topic in hand....oops!! how on earth can that have happened
Just one question though flower.......when did you move to Kent ffs!
Seems once more we are deflected from the topic in hand....oops!! how on earth can that have happened
Just one question though flower.......when did you move to Kent ffs!
Sex God
Quote by flower411
context is as you say everything...that surely then is the interpretation of far more than just the word ,but you know me....just more bullshit.
Seems once more we are deflected from the topic in hand....oops!! how on earth can that have happened
Just one question though flower.......when did you move to Kent ffs!
Huh ?? Where did you think I was ?
Sorry I didn't realise you actually really did live in Kent....that's actually funny much better than my sorry little joke
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