We have had threads regarding the price of fuel, which btw has risen another penny today to bring it to it's highest level ever.
With the price of fuel rocketing by greedy oil companies, the Governmnet have decided to put additional ammounts of fuel duty on the already hard hit motorist.
Now we have another scam.....
They constantly bang on about the " green tax " which I think most of us would agree is just another word for " con". They use this an an excuse everytime they want to justify a rise in either fuel duty, or in this case massive hikes in road tax.
When road tax was first introduced the motorist was told it would go towards the upkeep of the road network. That has now not happened for years if it ever did.
The roads this year are worse than at anytime that I can remember and the road tax keeps increasing, yet the roads are not being repaired.
When I first brought my car my road tax was £15 less as it has a catalytic converter on it, which basically means what comes out of the exhaust was very minimal. Now I have just had to pay £218 for a years tax. They now base it on engine size not what you chuck out of the end of your car. What a con.
Because I have a 2.3 litre car I already use more fuel than many cars so I pay more in fuel duty, but the bigger cars now could end up paying £950. It literally is Highway robbery.
I would not mind paying it IF I saw an improvement in the state of the roads, but I do not and this year the roads are so bad that riding a motorcycle will be like taking your life in your hands everytime I go out on it.
It is obscene that I have just taxed that as well and then will have to dodge massive dangerous holes in the road as well.
Great Britain? Sorry this country would have trouble running a bath.
Is there anything we do properly anymore?
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Quote by kentswingers777
When I first brought my car my road tax was £15 less as it has a catalytic converter on it, which basically means what comes out of the exhaust was very minimal. Now I have just had to pay £218 for a years tax. They now base it on engine size not what you chuck out of the end of your car. What a con.
I think you will find that it is still based on CO2 emissions
Quote by Max777
When I first brought my car my road tax was £15 less as it has a catalytic converter on it, which basically means what comes out of the exhaust was very minimal. Now I have just had to pay £218 for a years tax. They now base it on engine size not what you chuck out of the end of your car. What a con.
I think you will find that it is still based on CO2 emissions
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
That is what they would have us believe Max.
Can you imagine what will happen when it is proved beyond any doubt that global warming does not exist?
All that money and all that bollox spouted? But by then the idiots who think it does exist in Governmnet circles, will no doubt be either dead or out of office. So no comeback on them.
In one way the principle of the thing is right, but there are questionable areas of application. I'm not a motor engineer, but I've always believed that a medium sized saloon car with a 2000cc engine will be more efficient in all respects that the same car in basic format with a 1600 engine when driven at the same speeds and same rate of acceleration...
Plim :sad:
Plim :sad:
Sex God
The tax on one of our cars just went down £5 to £30 p/a 
Unfortunately the tax on the other one went up quite a bit :sad:
Then we have the bikes to tax as well '
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I did hear that the government were planning to make Club fees VAT'able as well thereby placing a new tax on swinging !! Would you Adam n Eve it??
Unfortunately the tax on the other one went up quite a bit :sad:
Then we have the bikes to tax as well '
'I did hear that the government were planning to make Club fees VAT'able as well thereby placing a new tax on swinging !! Would you Adam n Eve it??
Quote by kentswingers777
Because I have a 2.3 litre car I already use more fuel than many cars so I pay more in fuel duty, but the bigger cars now could end up paying £950. It literally is Highway robbery.
You could always get a car with a smaller engine, okay you might not be able to race away at the lights or do more than 70 mph without putting a strain on the engine...but think of all the money your save!
Quote by kentswingers777
When I first brought my car my road tax was £15 less as it has a catalytic converter on it, which basically means what comes out of the exhaust was very minimal. Now I have just had to pay £218 for a years tax. They now base it on engine size not what you chuck out of the end of your car. What a con.
I think you will find that it is still based on CO2 emissions
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
That is what they would have us believe Max.
Can you imagine what will happen when it is proved beyond any doubt that global warming does not exist?
All that money and all that bollox spouted? But by then the idiots who think it does exist in Governmnet circles, will no doubt be either dead or out of office. So no comeback on them.
I do believe, look at the tables in the link I provided.
I drive a large 2 litre saloon that is CO2 efficient and my Road Tax last year was £150, inceasing this year to £155.
I think the system is quite fair, whether the revenues raised are spent as they should be is another issue.
Sex God
my road tax is currenty over £400 a year but not bothered as its a company right off all part of being self employed and having unlimited tax breaks 
Sex God
Quote by Mr-Powers
You could always get a car with a smaller engine, okay you might not be able to race away at the lights or do more than 70 mph without putting a strain on the engine...but think of all the money your save!
And just where is the fun in that? Life is for living and filling your world with experiences - just what do you get from pulling away at the lights sounding like a hair drier and your car shaking itself to death at 70mph?
Personally I think that all cars should be fitted with a V8 engine and all motorcycles tested to be able to reach at least 150 mph or get taken off the road. :twisted:
There is absolutely no need to complain, if your not happy paying extra money for such things as Road Tax, Fuel, Gas, Electricity.
You don't even have to pay for a TV Licence if you don't want to .
There is an alternative.
Become an MP
All those things and much more can then be claimed on your expenses, the road tax for your car and any other cars used by your household because of course other members of your household are using thier cars for your constitutional business.
MP's are of course exempt from requiring a TV licence.
Gas and Electricity are part of the running costs of your second home and therefore eligible as work expenses as are part of your home utility bills because of course a lot of your work is carried out at home.
Of course many other percentages of your home bills can be ofset against expenses.
You must have a second home because you have to spend so much time in London attending Parliament, this seems very fair, why should you have to stay in rented accommodation or hotels when attending Parliament, you need a home near to Westminster for that.
What's that, you already live in Westminster and are the MP for that area, it's ok we will pay for that second home you bought in Devon instead.
It is a bit of a drag having to spend so much time in the Commons or the House of Lords but of course there are a number of excellent restaurants in the buildings and there are no less than 7 bars to help you entertain and relax, Smoking Ban, don't be silly, it is legal to smoke in 6 of the bars located in those buildings, we MP's made the laws against smoking remember, we aren't stupid and made ourselves exempt.
Yes that's the answer boys and girls, don't moan, don't even put up with it all quietly, just become an MP (you also get a salary which is a little above minimum wage too and you can pay your Sons and Daughters (that you haven't seen all year because they are busy at University learning how to become an MP), wives and mistresses to work for you as "researchers".
aaaaaah Bisto has never tasted so good - join the gravy train
You don't even have to pay for a TV Licence if you don't want to .
There is an alternative.
Become an MP
All those things and much more can then be claimed on your expenses, the road tax for your car and any other cars used by your household because of course other members of your household are using thier cars for your constitutional business.
MP's are of course exempt from requiring a TV licence.
Gas and Electricity are part of the running costs of your second home and therefore eligible as work expenses as are part of your home utility bills because of course a lot of your work is carried out at home.
Of course many other percentages of your home bills can be ofset against expenses.
You must have a second home because you have to spend so much time in London attending Parliament, this seems very fair, why should you have to stay in rented accommodation or hotels when attending Parliament, you need a home near to Westminster for that.
What's that, you already live in Westminster and are the MP for that area, it's ok we will pay for that second home you bought in Devon instead.
It is a bit of a drag having to spend so much time in the Commons or the House of Lords but of course there are a number of excellent restaurants in the buildings and there are no less than 7 bars to help you entertain and relax, Smoking Ban, don't be silly, it is legal to smoke in 6 of the bars located in those buildings, we MP's made the laws against smoking remember, we aren't stupid and made ourselves exempt.
Yes that's the answer boys and girls, don't moan, don't even put up with it all quietly, just become an MP (you also get a salary which is a little above minimum wage too and you can pay your Sons and Daughters (that you haven't seen all year because they are busy at University learning how to become an MP), wives and mistresses to work for you as "researchers".
aaaaaah Bisto has never tasted so good - join the gravy train
Quote by Mr-Powers
Because I have a 2.3 litre car I already use more fuel than many cars so I pay more in fuel duty, but the bigger cars now could end up paying £950. It literally is Highway robbery.
You could always get a car with a smaller engine, okay you might not be able to race away at the lights or do more than 70 mph without putting a strain on the engine...but think of allthe money your save!
Firstly I have loads of money.
Second if I did as you suggested I would be a bore, and would not want that...........would we?
You a bore then Powers?
Quote by kentswingers777
Because I have a 2.3 litre car I already use more fuel than many cars so I pay more in fuel duty, but the bigger cars now could end up paying £950. It literally is Highway robbery.
You could always get a car with a smaller engine, okay you might not be able to race away at the lights or do more than 70 mph without putting a strain on the engine...but think of allthe money your save!
Firstly I have loads of money.
Second if I did as you suggested I would be a bore, and would not want that...........would we?
You a bore then Powers?
Let me guess why...you a minimum wage paying boss?
Sex God
I shall await eagerly the substantial rise in pence per mile i can claim for using my car for work purposes, to cover the rise in fuel duty, road tax, VAT and the general cost of inflation to cover all the servicing and other running costs
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
No actually we pay above the minimum wage, so really I would say we are a very good employer.
It is just that I get the hump paying all that money on top of the price of me brand new Merc.
i hope thats a week not an hour or my lot will riot ,god whatever next overtime i expect
Quote by meat2pleaseu
I shall await eagerly the substantial rise in pence per mile i can claim for using my car for work purposes, to cover the rise in fuel duty, road tax, VAT and the general cost of inflation to cover all the servicing and other running costs
Don't hold your breath Meaty.......don't think the current rates have increased in the past 10 years!
Quote by Lizaleanrob
No actually we pay above the minimum wage, so really I would say we are a very good employer.
It is just that I get the hump paying all that money on top of the price of me brand new Merc.
i hope thats a week not an hour or my lot will riot ,god whatever next overtime i expect
Most of the staff here are kept on a retainer as we want them in only when we need them.
See Powers thinks I am a tight arse.......cannot think why. :lol:
Sex God
I drive a 1 litre Yaris. :smug:
I choose to drive a car that does what I need - drive from A to B as cheaply as possible. I coule get a Smart car and I beleive it would be more fuel efficient and lower tax but they are expensive to buy and I don't owe anything on the yaris. So sticking with that is right for me.
I don't care if someone chooses to use a car that is far bigger and more fuel-hungry than they need to get from A to B. Anything more than that is for image or posing and they can pay for it or change their car - their choice.
Larger families that need the larger cars, I do feel for. But this new Tax only apples to new cars I believe? So a person could always choose a second-hand car.
Complaining about the governemt's behaviour on here is perfectly valid, but it wears a bit thin when there is zero evidence of any plan to do anything about the problem. Has anyone who objects to this contacted their mp to register their objection?
I choose to drive a car that does what I need - drive from A to B as cheaply as possible. I coule get a Smart car and I beleive it would be more fuel efficient and lower tax but they are expensive to buy and I don't owe anything on the yaris. So sticking with that is right for me.
I don't care if someone chooses to use a car that is far bigger and more fuel-hungry than they need to get from A to B. Anything more than that is for image or posing and they can pay for it or change their car - their choice.
Larger families that need the larger cars, I do feel for. But this new Tax only apples to new cars I believe? So a person could always choose a second-hand car.
Complaining about the governemt's behaviour on here is perfectly valid, but it wears a bit thin when there is zero evidence of any plan to do anything about the problem. Has anyone who objects to this contacted their mp to register their objection?
Given that historic vehicles are exempt from road tax and that company vehicles are taxed based on original list price wouldn't it calm the nerves of those vexed by such issues to choose to have a concourse classic car as a company vehicle?
I know nothing of these matters so doubtless I am wrong.
I know nothing of these matters so doubtless I am wrong.
Sex God
company vehicle never ben far easier to own and use it for company purpose almost like renting it to your self
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Given that historic vehicles are exempt from road tax and that company vehicles are taxed based on original list price wouldn't it calm the nerves of those vexed by such issues to choose to have a concourse classic car as a company vehicle?
I know nothing of these matters so doubtless I am wrong.
Yep.
What person in their right mind would want an old classic car? An enthusiast maybe but not your everyday person.
Have you also any idea how much a concourse classic car is to buy? Pick a model and then go onto E Bay and check. They in many cases are more expensive than a brand new car, plus the running costs are high as they have no catalytic converters and are renound for being thirsty on fuel.
Quote by foxylady2209
I drive a 1 litre Yaris. :smug:
I choose to drive a car that does what I need - drive from A to B as cheaply as possible. I coule get a Smart car and I beleive it would be more fuel efficient and lower tax but they are expensive to buy and I don't owe anything on the yaris. So sticking with that is right for me.
I don't care if someone chooses to use a car that is far bigger and more fuel-hungry than they need to get from A to B. Anything more than that is for image or posing and they can pay for it or change their car - their choice.
Larger families that need the larger cars, I do feel for. But this new Tax only apples to new cars I believe? So a person could always choose a second-hand car.
Complaining about the governemt's behaviour on here is perfectly valid, but it wears a bit thin when there is zero evidence of any plan to do anything about the problem. Has anyone who objects to this contacted their mp to register their objection?
That would somewhat defeat the hard work that has been done to get the car industry moving through the scrappage scheme?
Quote by kentswingers777
I drive a 1 litre Yaris. :smug:
I choose to drive a car that does what I need - drive from A to B as cheaply as possible. I coule get a Smart car and I beleive it would be more fuel efficient and lower tax but they are expensive to buy and I don't owe anything on the yaris. So sticking with that is right for me.
I don't care if someone chooses to use a car that is far bigger and more fuel-hungry than they need to get from A to B. Anything more than that is for image or posing and they can pay for it or change their car - their choice.
Larger families that need the larger cars, I do feel for. But this new Tax only apples to new cars I believe? So a person could always choose a second-hand car.
Complaining about the governemt's behaviour on here is perfectly valid, but it wears a bit thin when there is zero evidence of any plan to do anything about the problem. Has anyone who objects to this contacted their mp to register their objection?
That would somewhat defeat the hard work that has been done to get the car industry moving through the scrappage scheme?
No more than the Govt have done today - a day after the scrappage scheme ends - in their new "green" taxes on vehicle ownership!
Sex God
just the logistics of running a 35 year old car on a daily basis ben is a def no no
bit like drinking a good vintage wine with egg n chips you just wouldn`t do it
bit like drinking a good vintage wine with egg n chips you just wouldn`t do it
