I think - and always have thought, that the law on the sex trade / prostitution in this country is a complete mess.
The only justification for the point made in this thread about more than one woman working together being wrong, is the greater distress to neighbours with streams of callers. The answer is that sex premises should be like any other business and be legal, so they can be subject to Planning controls and only situated in areas where they are not going to cause distress to neighbours.
Plim :sad:
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Given more recent revelations, perhaps the police should be taking more time out in checking out Catholic Priests and raiding church vestries 
The appalling mistreatment of children by those in whom society places trust should be of more concern, but I guess its the usual "easy option" thing again.. treat the symptoms rather than the illness itself.
Good thread Kaz :thumbup:
The appalling mistreatment of children by those in whom society places trust should be of more concern, but I guess its the usual "easy option" thing again.. treat the symptoms rather than the illness itself.
Good thread Kaz :thumbup:
Quote by Kaznkev
So there is an important case today where a sex worker is being charged with Brothel keeping because she worked from home and shared the premises with other women,mainly so they all felt safer.
It seems the moralists who would police sex are at it again
I believe that this is the kind of action which will endanger sexworkers and is a complete waste of time and money.i think its time we changed the law in this country to reflect the fact it is human trafficking,age and consent that should be our primary concerns.
I totally agree with you.
Furthermore I would advocate the Nevada practice of legal 'Chicken Ranches ' located away from communitys.
It is often that these self styled 'Moralists' who hold such negative and narrow minded views about any aspect of sex being brought out in the open and dealt with sensibly reserve the right to have affairs behind their partner's back's'.
Bloody Hypocrites.
Sex God
Quote by Kaznkev
So there is an important case today where a sex worker is being charged with Brothel keeping because she worked from home and shared the premises with other women,mainly so they all felt safer.
It seems the moralists who would police sex are at it again
I believe that this is the kind of action which will endanger sexworkers and is a complete waste of time and money.i think its time we changed the law in this country to reflect the fact it is human trafficking,age and consent that should be our primary concerns.
outdated laws
but which party will have the balls to put forward updated laws knowing its where most mp`s spend their free time
bigger question is why where you looking there kas
KaznKev wrote,
"i tend to imagine mps prefer being whipped by a Domme and told what naughty boys they are"
...........................
On reading that i got an image in my head from 'Blott on the Landscape' of George Cole as a posh MP handcuffed to a bed dressed in a frilly baby outfit being disciplined by 'Nanny Whip'.
Laughed my head off
"i tend to imagine mps prefer being whipped by a Domme and told what naughty boys they are"
...........................
On reading that i got an image in my head from 'Blott on the Landscape' of George Cole as a posh MP handcuffed to a bed dressed in a frilly baby outfit being disciplined by 'Nanny Whip'.
Laughed my head off
Sex God
Quote by Kaznkev
So there is an important case today where a sex worker is being charged with Brothel keeping because she worked from home and shared the premises with other women,mainly so they all felt safer.
It seems the moralists who would police sex are at it again
I believe that this is the kind of action which will endanger sexworkers and is a complete waste of time and money.i think its time we changed the law in this country to reflect the fact it is human trafficking,age and consent that should be our primary concerns.
outdated laws
but which party will have the balls to put forward updated laws knowing its where most mp`s spend their free time
bigger question is why where you looking there kas
i tend to imagine mps prefer being whipped by a Domme and told what naughty boys they are
Why was i looking there,hope you are sitting down,near no sharp instruements,ready?Ok,
im a feminist and it was linked to a site i frequent.
there was one that used to frequent certain closed membership bdsm/fetish clubs in london and always turned up with a well known high court judge :whistling:
Sex God
Quote by Plimboy
I think - and always have thought, that the law on the sex trade / prostitution in this country is a complete mess.
The only justification for the point made in this thread about more than one woman working together being wrong, is the greater distress to neighbours with streams of callers. The answer is that sex premises should be like any other business and be legal, so they can be subject to Planning controls and only situated in areas where they are not going to cause distress to neighbours.
Plim :sad:
I would like to be associated with the speakers last remarks
not quite on topic, but close:
A very good dramatisation; Five Daughters, on BBC1 now.
This surrounds the murders of sex-workers on the streets of Ipswich a couple of years ago.
It appears to show a very balanced and open view of the stories of all involved, their families and the struggle to support the workers through, and potentially out of their addictions which seem to be prevelant in the 'need to work'.
Touching
lp
A very good dramatisation; Five Daughters, on BBC1 now.
This surrounds the murders of sex-workers on the streets of Ipswich a couple of years ago.
It appears to show a very balanced and open view of the stories of all involved, their families and the struggle to support the workers through, and potentially out of their addictions which seem to be prevelant in the 'need to work'.
Touching
lp
Sex God
Quote by __random_orbit__
not quite on topic, but close:
A very good dramatisation; Five Daughters, on BBC1 now.
This surrounds the murders of sex-workers on the streets of Ipswich a couple of years ago.
It appears to show a very balanced and open view of the stories of all involved, their families and the struggle to support the workers through, and potentially out of their addictions which seem to be prevelant in the 'need to work'.
Touching
lp
Totally agree - I rarely watch 'real life' programmes cos they can be heavy handed. But this one is great.
Another point about the laws on sex workers. It is only in the last few years that a decision was made to stop prosecuting certain sex workers. These are the children of 14 and 15 working the streets. And to actually start remembering that they are victims of child sexual abuse - NOT fully grown women.
I think all the 'big issue' arguments will always be there to be picked up as and when. This particular line of defence must have been used untold times. So it seems unlikely to win the case.
But the law on brothels is clear. And the police can and will enforce the law as and when it needs to be done. There are no mitigating circumstances allowed.
But the law on brothels is clear. And the police can and will enforce the law as and when it needs to be done. There are no mitigating circumstances allowed.
Sex God
Looks like she won.
this looks as if the press have sensationalised the incident. it is legal to set up a massage parlour as many already exist. therefore it was never a real brothel in the first place.
obviously, sex must have taken place in many cases, but its one of the ways sex work can operate. and that's all most authorities want, an acceptable shop front for an age old business.
however i think she should just accept she has won this case, in its context, and leave it at that.
obviously, sex must have taken place in many cases, but its one of the ways sex work can operate. and that's all most authorities want, an acceptable shop front for an age old business.
however i think she should just accept she has won this case, in its context, and leave it at that.
Quote by Rob_hood
So there is an important case today where a sex worker is being charged with Brothel keeping because she worked from home and shared the premises with other women,mainly so they all felt safer.
It seems the moralists who would police sex are at it again
I believe that this is the kind of action which will endanger sexworkers and is a complete waste of time and money.i think its time we changed the law in this country to reflect the fact it is human trafficking,age and consent that should be our primary concerns.
I totally agree with you.
Furthermore I would advocate the Nevada practice of legal 'Chicken Ranches ' located away from communitys.
It is often that these self styled 'Moralists' who hold such negative and narrow minded views about any aspect of sex being brought out in the open and dealt with sensibly reserve the right to have affairs behind their partner's back's'.
Bloody Hypocrites.
The trouble with the chicken ranch approach is that it privatizes the space available for prostitution - women can only work if they can afford to buy a large site and a licence, or if they agree to work for someone else.
I don't need planning permission to work from home, using my study. Why should a sex worker need planning permission to use her bedroom? By all means place limits on the number of women per property, or the number of visitors, but let's not put new legislative barriers in place.
Sex God
Sex has been a hidden activity for along time. The law has in turn sort to condemn those that profit from sex and liberalise. The resort is, as someone said above, the law is buggered.
It is time for a new law to cover the whole subject sensibly.
It is not going to happen! There are two many people at both ends pulling. The best we will get is another screw up. Trying to please everyone and managing to please no one.
Travis
It is time for a new law to cover the whole subject sensibly.
It is not going to happen! There are two many people at both ends pulling. The best we will get is another screw up. Trying to please everyone and managing to please no one.
Travis
Sex God
Quote by awayman
So there is an important case today where a sex worker is being charged with Brothel keeping because she worked from home and shared the premises with other women,mainly so they all felt safer.
It seems the moralists who would police sex are at it again
I believe that this is the kind of action which will endanger sexworkers and is a complete waste of time and money.i think its time we changed the law in this country to reflect the fact it is human trafficking,age and consent that should be our primary concerns.
I totally agree with you.
Furthermore I would advocate the Nevada practice of legal 'Chicken Ranches ' located away from communitys.
It is often that these self styled 'Moralists' who hold such negative and narrow minded views about any aspect of sex being brought out in the open and dealt with sensibly reserve the right to have affairs behind their partner's back's'.
Bloody Hypocrites.
The trouble with the chicken ranch approach is that it privatizes the space available for prostitution - women can only work if they can afford to buy a large site and a licence, or if they agree to work for someone else.
I don't need planning permission to work from home, using my study. Why should a sex worker need planning permission to use her bedroom? By all means place limits on the number of women per property, or the number of visitors, but let's not put new legislative barriers in place.
Inpossible to work, youi would face the "Not in my back yard" syndrome
Quote by Bluefish2009
So there is an important case today where a sex worker is being charged with Brothel keeping because she worked from home and shared the premises with other women,mainly so they all felt safer.
It seems the moralists who would police sex are at it again
I believe that this is the kind of action which will endanger sexworkers and is a complete waste of time and money.i think its time we changed the law in this country to reflect the fact it is human trafficking,age and consent that should be our primary concerns.
I totally agree with you.
Furthermore I would advocate the Nevada practice of legal 'Chicken Ranches ' located away from communitys.
It is often that these self styled 'Moralists' who hold such negative and narrow minded views about any aspect of sex being brought out in the open and dealt with sensibly reserve the right to have affairs behind their partner's back's'.
Bloody Hypocrites.
The trouble with the chicken ranch approach is that it privatizes the space available for prostitution - women can only work if they can afford to buy a large site and a licence, or if they agree to work for someone else.
I don't need planning permission to work from home, using my study. Why should a sex worker need planning permission to use her bedroom? By all means place limits on the number of women per property, or the number of visitors, but let's not put new legislative barriers in place.
Inpossible to work, youi would face the "Not in my back yard" syndrome
Which sums up part of what is wrong with this country, that we allow people to pretend that their limited rights over they land they occupy extend to deciding what others should do with the land they occupy.
Many of the ways of sex working are already legalised. Although they operate under a facade
of either sauna/massage bars or escort agencies etc. The whole point being that any kind of sex work is entirely between the 2 people involved. Which remains discreet and
personal, and therefore no authority is involved in any aspect of that.
When authorities do intervene, it is where that discreet process is no longer in place and
likely to lead to illegal or criminal activities.
Its a compromise between everyone's human rights to privacy and allowing people to use
sex for work.
Its hard to say what the implications and effects would be by having so called
'state registered' brothels. So I wouldn't just think its something that would
immediately solve problems. I expect for a while it could threaten the idea of having them.
of either sauna/massage bars or escort agencies etc. The whole point being that any kind of sex work is entirely between the 2 people involved. Which remains discreet and
personal, and therefore no authority is involved in any aspect of that.
When authorities do intervene, it is where that discreet process is no longer in place and
likely to lead to illegal or criminal activities.
Its a compromise between everyone's human rights to privacy and allowing people to use
sex for work.
Its hard to say what the implications and effects would be by having so called
'state registered' brothels. So I wouldn't just think its something that would
immediately solve problems. I expect for a while it could threaten the idea of having them.
