Maybe we should just teach them that sex outside marriage is a mortal sin: at least that would slow-down the teenage pregnancy rate. :twisted:
I have no problem with sex education being taught in schools. What I object to is the age some want to start teaching it.
Some want 5 year olds to start learning, which I think is way too young.
By all means brush over the " basics " in primary schools, but just the basics.
When they hit secondary school then that is the perfect age to start teaching them.
I cannot understand at all why some parents would not want their 15 year olds being taught it at school. At school they will be taught properly, by people that have been trained to teach it.
This has been talked about before on here and my feelings towards teaching very young children about sex, is wrong. My Grandaughter is 7 and I think she is far too young to be taught the fundamentals of sex. Yes she knows where a baby comes from because at that age they ask questions, but I think at that age it should be left up to the parents to give them the answers, that a child of that age will understand as they know their own child.
At a school kids of that age are like chalk and cheese as to what information they can take on board, but a teacher would be teaching them all the same things. Leave it up to the parents until they start secondary school.
I think Government officials should keep their noses out of things like this where very young kids are concerned, and let the parents do what they are supposed to do......parent!!
A fifteen year old should be well capable of taking such information on board and forming an opinion. I have five kids and there is no way I would trust any schoolteacher to educate my under 15's about sex though. That is the job of a responsible parent, even moreso both responsible parents.
I will not take a chance on a school teacher not having an agenda, and not relishing an easy opportunity to influence young children, and promote alternative lifestyles as being preferable to straight. More worrying would be having a government department telling me that they have vetted them in order to prevent paedophiles from being able to groom them.
I understand that Witchy but nowadays kids, or should I say girls are taught about periods in primary school and rightly so.
Boys are excluded from those lessons where it is about periods, to save the giggles maybe? That is how it was in mrs777's Daughters school.
I do not mean to be rude but your parents seemed to have very Victorian rules with regards to sex, as did my parents to a degree. None of us could even mention the sex word to our Father without him wanting to move swiftly on.
I am just worried about teaching kids of a very impressionable age, the workings of sex.
Plus as Brighton I think said, some teachers COULD have other agendas. There should be VERY clear and acceptable guidelines laid down, about what they can teach.
IF my Grandaughter asks me a question I try and answer it in a way that she will understand without going into all the mechanics. I believe at 7 she is too young for many topics with regards to sex, but I agree that some things could be taught to her....everything has to be balanced, but I do believe that most parents if they wanted to should be allowed to opt out and explain it to their kids, in a way they think THEIR kids will understand and take on board.
A tricky subject and my worries lay with the people who could teach these kids. Clear guidelines for parents and kids is the way forward with the choice of withdrawing if the parents decide that is the best way for their kids.
The powers that be seem to want to take away basic powers from parents and pass them to other bodies, I do not agree with that per se.
As I have already stated JTS, they do a Henry V111th and change the rules to suit whatever they think is right, at any given time.
They have all of a sudden changed the coursework,so it is no longer part of the exam progress, when a few years ago it was the best thing ever in helping kids get good results.
Sats were introduced as they thought it was the greatest thing for a school ever, now they are scrapping them. One good idea today seems to be a rubbish one next year.
They change things around all the time, and the sex education would be no different.
I am worried that what they start out with in regard to this new teaching, will change so as to appease the parents who have doubts now.
Softly softly approach to start with, pacify the parents now, and then when all quite change the rules.
They have done it before and will do it again.
I do NOT want to see four to nine year olds being taught sex education in infant or primary schools, by teachers most of the time, just about out of nappies themselves. That is not a dig at the teachers but in primary schools I certainly do not think teachers per se, are equipped to teach it.
Over nine I would say is the perfect age for most, and then secondary school is where the proper teaching should start by experts in that field.
I would think Powers that a lot of people would think swingers are morally corrupt. We are a group of people that like having sex with others. That may well constitute an " expert " opinion on sex, but hardly good teachings to kids about sex. Morally corrupt is a term I heard about swingers about two years ago on a radio programme, I thought it was a bit harsh but maybe that is what people outside of the scene think?
So who ARE the people who can teach the kids?
Well certainly not just a teacher out of Uni, but I would say someone to come in from outside the school.
There is an organisation for picking ya nose nowadays, so must be one that can teach kids about sex.
Yes I suppose a biology teacher at secondary school could, and no doubt does. I do not know.
People who are deemed to be impartial, who have no hidden agendas, and that has had the training and possesses the skills required. Maybe someone on here could enlighten us as to if there is a body out there, who either could do this, or does do this.
I know they will say teachers but I still do NOT think primary school teachers have that knowledge, maybe I am wrong.
I think the main argument with regards to sex education is more about when than if. There has been much speculation about this, especially when the law was changed and clause 28 was deleted from the statute book. If we could leave aside the arguments about whether children should be taught about homosexuality please, I would rather not be involved in any of that. However the months leading up to that change on our legal system did bring sex education to the front of many political debate. Unfortunately once it was over the whole thing was more or less forgotten. Then parents started reporting inapropriate literature being given to children as young as five in some schools. IMHO I wouldn't care if the books my children were given at school were about gay sex or straight, both would be totally unacceptable at such a young age.
If a kid manages to reach age 15 without his or her parents teaching him or her about the birds and the bees, then there should be someone there for them to talk to, this could be detected durring routine safe sex and contraceptive lessons being taught at around that time at school. Young adults should not be cut lose while still confused about their sexuality, but that dosn't mean that they should have been mad aware of it when they are still in short pants climbing trees.
Please! Our children are growing up too fast as it is, let them be children FFS!!
None of us ever get that chance again.
BG.
I think Brighton we are on a hiding to nothing here.
The arguemets will always be that kids should be taught it at the earliest possible age, and try to use the arguement about under 16's and the pregnancy rates for that age group, and much younger.
The reasons that they want to start teaching about sex at such a young age, is the world we now live in.
Kids WILL ask questions about where babies come from, and their little willies, and why has his Sister not got one, and all those other kinds of questions that I and every other parent will get asked.
It is the ability to be able to communicate with your child and explain to them in a way that child will understand.
I am glad Powers that people like nurses come in and are not affiliated with any particular school. I think that is a better idea, certainly where the younger kid is concerned.
It all sounds a bit to " hip hop " for me being the obvious old fashioned git that I obviously am, to fall into line with the Monday morning brigade, who think teaching kids as young as five about sex, is a great idea. Jeeze a lot of them at that age cannot even spell their own names, or tie their shoe laces, yet some would burden them with the mechanics of sex, in whatever way some jumped up Johny deems ok.
Well I most certainly would not have wanted MY five year old kids to be taught that. IF they wanted any answers, at that age as the parent, I would have given it to them.
Kids and innocence should go hand in hand, not to try and use that as some underhanded excuse, for what will be no doubt another failed exercise, and in five years time saying they will now change things, as it was not a good idea. I have seen it happen in the past, and will see it again in the future.
Let kids be kids for a little bit longer eh?
How do people feel about Peer Education (outside school)? We had young people from 13 yrs old upwards running sex education sessions with us. It worked great!
I think the developement of the body as in human biology should be taught at primary school with parents aware of whats being taught to. But Sex education should wait until secondary school.
Although I have answered all my childrens questions as they have asked, I really can not understand why they need to be shown two people having sex, be it a cartoon at the age of 10.
I must admit to not liking the idea of pre 10 year olds having sex education. I don't think its necessary. I also believe it puts another burden of responsibility on primary school teachers where it's not necessary to do so. When the child reaches secondary school age is when it's right in my mind to have a good integrated policy on sex ed including stuff on homosexuality etc, lets be honest we're living in the 21st century not the dark ages and its OK to be gay bi or straight and its not important to take issue with anyones sexuality but its important for it be recognised as a right.
I thought the ammount this Government were spending Davey has risen dramatically over the last decade?
It may well be coming down in Nottinghamshire, maybe in that city they have proper people teaching the kids?
Overall the figures are rising even after all the hype and money that has been spent.
Maybe a lot of the youth of today will not listen to anyone no matter what you say or do...jeeze a lot of kids will not listen to their parents ot their teachers, so why would they listen to anyone else?
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