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One word ......mirror
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should all drugs be classifed class A
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
It is an S and not a Z...I hate the bastardisation of the English language.
I hate the bastardisation of our language I'm not keen on it's americanisation either...I can't begin to count the AMOUNT of times I've thought that..there is an old saying about glass houses...would someone be kind enough to remind me how it goes??
As has been mentioned, s and z are both acceptable in English; American only uses z. In addition, when you are counting something, it is number, if you can't count it it is amount. If you are going to criticise other people's use of English I suggest you make sure you use it correctly first yourself.
(I've read this through 5 times and still hoping to the great god of writing properly, Grammaticus, that I haven't dropped a clanger myself. LOL)
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
quite an entertaining thought
when your kids get on a bus for school where the driver took an informed decision to smoke his super skunk before he came to work
or the train driver who wanted to find his inner self last night and popped a lsd tab
or the copper that,s to lethargic to go and arrest the manic with a gun as he had a joint before he came to work
then there is the mechanic who just did your brakes on your car who was rushing out of his nut on amphetamines and forgot to put the pins back
yes legalising drugs does sort of make sense.................if your on em
All of which would make sense if the current way of doing things made your examples impossible or even unlikely. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
quite an entertaining thought
when your kids get on a bus for school where the driver took an informed decision to smoke his super skunk before he came to work
or the train driver who wanted to find his inner self last night and popped a lsd tab
or the copper that,s to lethargic to go and arrest the manic with a gun as he had a joint before he came to work
then there is the mechanic who just did your brakes on your car who was rushing out of his nut on amphetamines and forgot to put the pins back
yes legalising drugs does sort of make sense.................if your on em
Drinking is perfectly legal and yet there are many jobs where a person would be sacked on the spot if they took a drink. Some jobs you can't have had a drink in the preceding 12 hours. Just cos something is legal doesn't mean your local busdriver would be allowed to do it.
Common sense has to be applied in all these cases - and because some people don't have any, the law is there to make sure they do what is sensible.
Quote by ForestFunsters
I can't find it online, but I remember a statistic from when I did my toxicology degree - more people in the UK have died from choking on breakfast cereal than from cannabis or ecstasy usage.
Time to ban those murderous cornflakes?
Erm maybe more people eat breakfast cereal than use the above mentioned drugs??
For example 3 of us in my household eat breakfast cereal on a daily basis 7 days a week but none of us use cannabis or ecstasy, so i would imagine the chances of me dying from the drugs a greatly lower than choking on my all bran?!?!?
Orgasminator
All Bran's dangerous too? :eeek:
i,ve read most of this with some interest. however as someone who doesn.t advocate drug use(having lost family and friends to drink and drugs) we need to not miss the point.
currently the drugs trade accounts forabout 3% of world trade! yup something bill gates would soil himself for. however it ffers little to the economies it effects. more or less all heroin in the uk is afghan, grown by the taliban or familes forced to by them. most of our cocaine from south america where again warlords use it to fund their own principailities again more or less forcing growers.
hold this for a sec.
legalisation brings many benefits. firstly decriminalisation. so no costs to the criminal justice system. if available in a regulated manner like a measured dose of alcohol like when you go for a beer then you get rid of our own home grown gangsters and the violence ythat goes with it. anyone wishing to try it would get the REAL facts and make a choice based on fact. not what their mates say.
i.d make heroin free as it would probably be more cost effective thsn the current system. you.d have all the savings frm the criminal justice system to pay for it. insurance premiums would come down as most burglaries and thefts from cars are to fund drug use;85% of peeps in prison are for drug related aquisitive crime. you.d also have a safer community as police would be able to policing communities and getting to know them. and prrisons would be virtually empty!
we don't need a police state we need an open and honest frank debate on policy. We need people to read more than just a sun headline. Ifc fags and beer were discovered tomorrow they would be illegal. A drug is a drug regardless of whther it falls in a legal framework or not! This is about social responsibility not who are scum and who are not. Ask anyone with a drug problem and after you have cut throough the bravado they are not proud nor do they thinkit clever and they would give their right armnot to be an addict...and some do
ask a smoker how many times they have tried to give up. prohibition only creates a sub culture of cool to the vulnerable its time to deal withthis honestly. Unfortunately because most people have no idea of the real situation this will be a political hot potato for a good whilel yet.
Would you vote for someone saying review the system and look at legalisation/decriminalisation as a real option?
Until we do we itzs gonna get worse before it gets better.
Until then we need to educate our young people the good and thr bad and hope thst common sense prevails
currently the drugs trade accounts forabout 3% of world trade! yup something bill gates would soil himself for. however it ffers little to the economies it effects. more or less all heroin in the uk is afghan, grown by the taliban or familes forced to by them. most of our cocaine from south america where again warlords use it to fund their own principailities again more or less forcing growers.
hold this for a sec.
legalisation brings many benefits. firstly decriminalisation. so no costs to the criminal justice system. if available in a regulated manner like a measured dose of alcohol like when you go for a beer then you get rid of our own home grown gangsters and the violence ythat goes with it. anyone wishing to try it would get the REAL facts and make a choice based on fact. not what their mates say.
i.d make heroin free as it would probably be more cost effective thsn the current system. you.d have all the savings frm the criminal justice system to pay for it. insurance premiums would come down as most burglaries and thefts from cars are to fund drug use;85% of peeps in prison are for drug related aquisitive crime. you.d also have a safer community as police would be able to policing communities and getting to know them. and prrisons would be virtually empty!
we don't need a police state we need an open and honest frank debate on policy. We need people to read more than just a sun headline. Ifc fags and beer were discovered tomorrow they would be illegal. A drug is a drug regardless of whther it falls in a legal framework or not! This is about social responsibility not who are scum and who are not. Ask anyone with a drug problem and after you have cut throough the bravado they are not proud nor do they thinkit clever and they would give their right armnot to be an addict...and some do
ask a smoker how many times they have tried to give up. prohibition only creates a sub culture of cool to the vulnerable its time to deal withthis honestly. Unfortunately because most people have no idea of the real situation this will be a political hot potato for a good whilel yet.
Would you vote for someone saying review the system and look at legalisation/decriminalisation as a real option?
Until we do we itzs gonna get worse before it gets better.
Until then we need to educate our young people the good and thr bad and hope thst common sense prevails
Orgasminator
That's one way of looking at it!
Just for a second take weed out of that equasion because it can be grown here.
How on earth would you go about making it legal in South America and Afghainstan? Because if it remained as it is now there how can you create a legal or even free market for something that's worth millions there? And the crime that goes along with producing and exporting it, who pays them to switch to doing the right thing? Do you think Columbia would legalise the production for such a legal buyer?
I see where you're going with this but you're a long way from the big picture.
Just for a second take weed out of that equasion because it can be grown here.
How on earth would you go about making it legal in South America and Afghainstan? Because if it remained as it is now there how can you create a legal or even free market for something that's worth millions there? And the crime that goes along with producing and exporting it, who pays them to switch to doing the right thing? Do you think Columbia would legalise the production for such a legal buyer?
I see where you're going with this but you're a long way from the big picture.
Orgasminator
So where does the money come from for the production? If they're free to consume, how do you pay for their production?
And greenhouses? If it could be grown in greenhouses do you not think that it would be, even on a small scale?
And again - the industry in these producing countries is worth far too much money to them for them to just say 'yeah ok, off you go grow, you're own'. They would do whatever was necessary to ensure that production elsewhere on that sort of scale never happened (even if it was possible). They're not the most reasonable of people you know.
All I'm saying is that its a very idyllic veiw but those ideals only go so far.
And greenhouses? If it could be grown in greenhouses do you not think that it would be, even on a small scale?
And again - the industry in these producing countries is worth far too much money to them for them to just say 'yeah ok, off you go grow, you're own'. They would do whatever was necessary to ensure that production elsewhere on that sort of scale never happened (even if it was possible). They're not the most reasonable of people you know.
All I'm saying is that its a very idyllic veiw but those ideals only go so far.
thanks for the comments
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
Orgasminator
That goes a way towards answering the questions I was asking. Thank you
Quote by lickmidick2002
thanks for the comments
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
B ut in order to keep the criminals at bay we'd still have to have the same enforcement mechanisms and rules and regs that we have now, and we'd still have to criminalize possession with intent to supply illegal drugs.
And we'd still have junkies who can't afford their fix.
I fully appreciate your sincerity; I'm just not persuaded by the argument that all the downsides of the drugs trade will go away if we let respectable junkies get their stocks at Boots.
Sex God
Quote by awayman
thanks for the comments
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
B ut in order to keep the criminals at bay we'd still have to have the same enforcement mechanisms and rules and regs that we have now, and we'd still have to criminalize possession with intent to supply illegal drugs.
And we'd still have junkies who can't afford their fix.
I fully appreciate your sincerity; I'm just not persuaded by the argument that all the downsides of the drugs trade will go away if we let respectable junkies get their stocks at Boots.
I do not think anyone else really believes it would be the cure all. but our current system is not working and some thing new needs to be done.
Quote by awayman
thanks for the comments
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
B ut in order to keep the criminals at bay we'd still have to have the same enforcement mechanisms and rules and regs that we have now, and we'd still have to criminalize possession with intent to supply illegal drugs.
And we'd still have junkies who can't afford their fix.
I fully appreciate your sincerity; I'm just not persuaded by the argument that all the downsides of the drugs trade will go away if we let respectable junkies get their stocks at Boots.
haven't said that drug users won't go away. (the term junkies isn't a nice one...would you use the same term for a single mother on anti depressents for the last couple of years? cos there a gov't sponsored addict)
but it would reduce crime as is proven elsewhere particularly the more violent aspects...
what it is is tryin to use common sense and it does need something fresh cos at the moment it will only get worse as, if you follow social history, in times of recession drug use and alcoholism go up....
and with the correct regulation if drug users can't afford free we're in deep shit lol
forgot to mention that healthcare costs would come down too cos of earlyier interventions for dvt's, etc... so no icu beds for endocardiatus etc...
like i said originally i am no advocate for drug use but i believe in a common sense approach and that something differnent is needed, this is a 40 year old piece of legislation that is no longer fit for purpose, if you have a headache and parecetamol don't shift it you try summat else, its the same logic. the drugs issue in the uk has got progressively worse over the last 40 years this along with better 'social conditioning' in our schools regards education etc... and better awareness for adults too so we are aware of the issues.
instead we get the populist press giving mass marketing to substances which would otherwise be on the fringe of public psyche and while exciting the hedonists scarin aveage joe shitless....ergo public fear and the eventual press ganging of our statesmen into making irrational decisions and shite policy.....yup sounds like a plan
Quote by lickmidick2002
thanks for the comments
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
B ut in order to keep the criminals at bay we'd still have to have the same enforcement mechanisms and rules and regs that we have now, and we'd still have to criminalize possession with intent to supply illegal drugs.
And we'd still have junkies who can't afford their fix.
I fully appreciate your sincerity; I'm just not persuaded by the argument that all the downsides of the drugs trade will go away if we let respectable junkies get their stocks at Boots.
haven't said that drug users won't go away. (the term junkies isn't a nice one...would you use the same term for a single mother on anti depressents for the last couple of years? cos there a gov't sponsored addict)
but it would reduce crime as is proven elsewhere particularly the more violent aspects...
what it is is tryin to use common sense and it does need something fresh cos at the moment it will only get worse as, if you follow social history, in times of recession drug use and alcoholism go up....
and with the correct regulation if drug users can't afford free we're in deep shit lol
forgot to mention that healthcare costs would come down too cos of earlyier interventions for dvt's, etc... so no icu beds for endocardiatus etc...
like i said originally i am no advocate for drug use but i believe in a common sense approach and that something differnent is needed, this is a 40 year old piece of legislation that is no longer fit for purpose, if you have a headache and parecetamol don't shift it you try summat else, its the same logic. the drugs issue in the uk has got progressively worse over the last 40 years this along with better 'social conditioning' in our schools regards education etc... and better awareness for adults too so we are aware of the issues.
instead we get the populist press giving mass marketing to substances which would otherwise be on the fringe of public psyche and while exciting the hedonists scarin aveage joe shitless....ergo public fear and the eventual press ganging of our statesmen into making irrational decisions and shite policy.....yup sounds like a plan
Great posts
And then, over time, make it socially frowned upon to take drugs (rather than youngsters doing it because it's cool and breaking the law), something like the effect the drink driving campaign had.
Sex God
Quote by darkest_desires
thanks for the comments
i think we need to remember that all our medical morphine also comes from afghan, the difference being we would just use more and the money would go to the growers...fair trade smack if you like.
the same goes with cocaine....
the money?
easy it takes around 1500 a week to keep someone in jail...and the cost to the economy...and yes it a long way off.
and as for the production no they wouldn't like it but what option do they have? without the funds they can't buy guns or pay to train militia.
idealist it may be, but i thought it was just a little different to add to the discussion, people will always make up their own mind but the fact remains current legislation ain't working here or abroad.
the only countries who are even beginning to make a difference are those who have liberalised the law and looked for a new way forward...check out canada, sweden and holland is now going that way too.
oh and we already grow our medicinal coca
B ut in order to keep the criminals at bay we'd still have to have the same enforcement mechanisms and rules and regs that we have now, and we'd still have to criminalize possession with intent to supply illegal drugs.
And we'd still have junkies who can't afford their fix.
I fully appreciate your sincerity; I'm just not persuaded by the argument that all the downsides of the drugs trade will go away if we let respectable junkies get their stocks at Boots.
haven't said that drug users won't go away. (the term junkies isn't a nice one...would you use the same term for a single mother on anti depressents for the last couple of years? cos there a gov't sponsored addict)
but it would reduce crime as is proven elsewhere particularly the more violent aspects...
what it is is tryin to use common sense and it does need something fresh cos at the moment it will only get worse as, if you follow social history, in times of recession drug use and alcoholism go up....
and with the correct regulation if drug users can't afford free we're in deep shit lol
forgot to mention that healthcare costs would come down too cos of earlyier interventions for dvt's, etc... so no icu beds for endocardiatus etc...
like i said originally i am no advocate for drug use but i believe in a common sense approach and that something differnent is needed, this is a 40 year old piece of legislation that is no longer fit for purpose, if you have a headache and parecetamol don't shift it you try summat else, its the same logic. the drugs issue in the uk has got progressively worse over the last 40 years this along with better 'social conditioning' in our schools regards education etc... and better awareness for adults too so we are aware of the issues.
instead we get the populist press giving mass marketing to substances which would otherwise be on the fringe of public psyche and while exciting the hedonists scarin aveage joe shitless....ergo public fear and the eventual press ganging of our statesmen into making irrational decisions and shite policy.....yup sounds like a plan
Great posts
And then, over time, make it socially frowned upon to take drugs (rather than youngsters doing it because it's cool and breaking the law), something like the effect the drink driving campaign had.
of course we have got a teenage binge drinking culture have we :smoke:
Sex God
Quote by lickmidick2002
i,ve read most of this with some interest. however as someone who doesn.t advocate drug use(having lost family and friends to drink and drugs) we need to not miss the point.
currently the drugs trade accounts forabout 3% of world trade! yup something bill gates would soil himself for. however it ffers little to the economies it effects. more or less all heroin in the uk is afghan, grown by the taliban or familes forced to by them. most of our cocaine from south america where again warlords use it to fund their own principailities again more or less forcing growers.
hold this for a sec.
legalisation brings many benefits. firstly decriminalisation. so no costs to the criminal justice system. if available in a regulated manner like a measured dose of alcohol like when you go for a beer then you get rid of our own home grown gangsters and the violence ythat goes with it. anyone wishing to try it would get the REAL facts and make a choice based on fact. not what their mates say.
i.d make heroin free as it would probably be more cost effective thsn the current system. you.d have all the savings frm the criminal justice system to pay for it. insurance premiums would come down as most burglaries and thefts from cars are to fund drug use;85% of peeps in prison are for drug related aquisitive crime. you.d also have a safer community as police would be able to policing communities and getting to know them. and prrisons would be virtually empty!
we don't need a police state we need an open and honest frank debate on policy. We need people to read more than just a sun headline. Ifc fags and beer were discovered tomorrow they would be illegal. A drug is a drug regardless of whther it falls in a legal framework or not! This is about social responsibility not who are scum and who are not. Ask anyone with a drug problem and after you have cut throough the bravado they are not proud nor do they thinkit clever and they would give their right armnot to be an addict...and some do
ask a smoker how many times they have tried to give up. prohibition only creates a sub culture of cool to the vulnerable its time to deal withthis honestly. Unfortunately because most people have no idea of the real situation this will be a political hot potato for a good whilel yet.
Would you vote for someone saying review the system and look at legalisation/decriminalisation as a real option?
Until we do we itzs gonna get worse before it gets better.
Until then we need to educate our young people the good and thr bad and hope thst common sense prevails
spot on. unfortunately ignorance and politics (are they one and the same??) mean that this will be a very difficult proposition to sell to the general public as a workable policy. Too much ignorance and hysteria around unfortunately. But I agree with you 100%. We simply associate drugs and crime so closely that it is inconceivable that drugs and crime could possibly be separated but they could - as you have said - with vision, courage and a will to try something different to the policies that have been failing for 40+ years.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Haha! :laughabove::laughabove::laughabove: So does cocaine
If ya get a dodgy batch it could actually be baking powder............fancy putting that up ya nose. :twisted:
Not going to read a thread that has gone 7 pages in one day. Its a subject I know quite a lot already and have had all of the debates 100 times over.
Anyway, I got as far as the above quote. Interesting point although its a joke. Lots of cannabis smokers will be getting serious lung diseases in the future at a good cost to the NHS I expect. Sadly it wont be the cannabis thats given them the lung diseases rather the plastic, dirty oil, tar, and human shit it gets mixed with during the dilution for greater profits. One good point of legalizing cannabis is you wont be selling human shit to smoke from behind a shop counter.
Banning of drugs is pointless and does not work as proved by .... history. Its about as effective as banning prostitution. Educate, legalize, and ....... tax
Sex God
Quote by Too Hot
i,ve read most of this with some interest. however as someone who doesn.t advocate drug use(having lost family and friends to drink and drugs) we need to not miss the point.
currently the drugs trade accounts forabout 3% of world trade! yup something bill gates would soil himself for. however it ffers little to the economies it effects. more or less all heroin in the uk is afghan, grown by the taliban or familes forced to by them. most of our cocaine from south america where again warlords use it to fund their own principailities again more or less forcing growers.
hold this for a sec.
legalisation brings many benefits. firstly decriminalisation. so no costs to the criminal justice system. if available in a regulated manner like a measured dose of alcohol like when you go for a beer then you get rid of our own home grown gangsters and the violence ythat goes with it. anyone wishing to try it would get the REAL facts and make a choice based on fact. not what their mates say.
i.d make heroin free as it would probably be more cost effective thsn the current system. you.d have all the savings frm the criminal justice system to pay for it. insurance premiums would come down as most burglaries and thefts from cars are to fund drug use;85% of peeps in prison are for drug related aquisitive crime. you.d also have a safer community as police would be able to policing communities and getting to know them. and prrisons would be virtually empty!
we don't need a police state we need an open and honest frank debate on policy. We need people to read more than just a sun headline. Ifc fags and beer were discovered tomorrow they would be illegal. A drug is a drug regardless of whther it falls in a legal framework or not! This is about social responsibility not who are scum and who are not. Ask anyone with a drug problem and after you have cut throough the bravado they are not proud nor do they thinkit clever and they would give their right armnot to be an addict...and some do
ask a smoker how many times they have tried to give up. prohibition only creates a sub culture of cool to the vulnerable its time to deal withthis honestly. Unfortunately because most people have no idea of the real situation this will be a political hot potato for a good whilel yet.
Would you vote for someone saying review the system and look at legalisation/decriminalisation as a real option?
Until we do we itzs gonna get worse before it gets better.
Until then we need to educate our young people the good and thr bad and hope thst common sense prevails
spot on. unfortunately ignorance and politics (are they one and the same??) mean that this will be a very difficult proposition to sell to the general public as a workable policy. Too much ignorance and hysteria around unfortunately. But I agree with you 100%. We simply associate drugs and crime so closely that it is inconceivable that drugs and crime could possibly be separated but they could - as you have said - with vision, courage and a will to try something different to the policies that have been failing for 40+ years.
Very valid points indeed, sadley some here are too quick to label those who may have taken a wrong turn in life as Junkies and criminals.
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
Very valid points indeed, sadley some here are too quick to label those who may have taken a wrong turn in life as Junkies and criminals.
Welcome to the world of swinging, where minds aren't always open and judges are always mental!
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Very valid points indeed, sadley some here are too quick to label those who may have taken a wrong turn in life as Junkies and criminals.
Welcome to the world of swinging, where minds aren't always open and judges are always mental!
And it's a world where people write absolute bollocks about things they know little or nothing about, then post the first link they find that agrees with their point of view, without researching any further (not you DG, I hasten to add!)
The fact is, 100's of thousands, possibly millions of people around the world use marijuana, and benefit greatly from it, both medically and recreationally. These people may have a spliff in the evening to wind down after a hard day at work, maybe a few at the weekend and it has no bad overall effect on them whatsoever. The after-effects and residual blood traces dissipate far quicker than alcohol consumption, with no hang-over. These people don't go out mugging to feed their habit - they work for the money they spend. You won't find them fighting inside kebab shops or causing any trouble to anybody. You will find amongst them scholars, academics, artists, poets, and great lovers.
Here's one final statistic - the vast majority of classical artists, DaVinci, Botticelli, Van Gogh, Degas, Monet etc. were all marijuana users. I think out lives would be a lot shabbier without the legacy left by these great painters.
Orgasminator
Very well put! :thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by ForestFunsters
Very valid points indeed, sadley some here are too quick to label those who may have taken a wrong turn in life as Junkies and criminals.
Welcome to the world of swinging, where minds aren't always open and judges are always mental!
And it's a world where people write absolute bollocks about things they know little or nothing about, then post the first link they find that agrees with their point of view, without researching any further (not you DG, I hasten to add!)
The fact is, 100's of thousands, possibly millions of people around the world use marijuana, and benefit greatly from it, both medically and recreationally. These people may have a spliff in the evening to wind down after a hard day at work, maybe a few at the weekend and it has no bad overall effect on them whatsoever. The after-effects and residual blood traces dissipate far quicker than alcohol consumption, with no hang-over. These people don't go out mugging to feed their habit - they work for the money they spend. You won't find them fighting inside kebab shops or causing any trouble to anybody. You will find amongst them scholars, academics, artists, poets, and great lovers.
Here's one final statistic - the vast majority of classical artists, DaVinci, Botticelli, Van Gogh, Degas, Monet etc. were all marijuana users. I think out lives would be a lot shabbier without the legacy left by these great painters.
nicely write ff
and i might be swayed if i hadn't seen the affects it's had on some very witty .intelligent and generally fun people
its fine for those who grow out of it and good life experience for those that try it
but incredibly sad for those who become entrapped by it
just my own experience
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nicely write ff
and i might be swayed if i hadn't seen the affects it's had on some very witty .intelligent and generally fun people
its fine for those who grow out of it and good life experience for those that try it
but incredibly sad for those who become entrapped by it
just my own experience
True Rob....but the same holds true for alcohol,gambling and any number of other addictive behaviours. The question remains is legislation or information the answer? I have to fall on the side of information..prohibition hasn't and doesn't work,it just criminalises vast swathes of otherwise law abiding citizens and fills the pockets of those who would exploit them
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Very valid points indeed, sadley some here are too quick to label those who may have taken a wrong turn in life as Junkies and criminals.
Welcome to the world of swinging, where minds aren't always open and judges are always mental!
And it's a world where people write absolute bollocks about things they know little or nothing about, then post the first link they find that agrees with their point of view, without researching any further (not you DG, I hasten to add!)
The fact is, 100's of thousands, possibly millions of people around the world use marijuana, and benefit greatly from it, both medically and recreationally. These people may have a spliff in the evening to wind down after a hard day at work, maybe a few at the weekend and it has no bad overall effect on them whatsoever. The after-effects and residual blood traces dissipate far quicker than alcohol consumption, with no hang-over. These people don't go out mugging to feed their habit - they work for the money they spend. You won't find them fighting inside kebab shops or causing any trouble to anybody. You will find amongst them scholars, academics, artists, poets, and great lovers.
Here's one final statistic - the vast majority of classical artists, DaVinci, Botticelli, Van Gogh, Degas, Monet etc. were all marijuana users. I think out lives would be a lot shabbier without the legacy left by these great painters.
And Hitler was a cocaine user.........your point?
