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Quote by Onthebeach_1
i would suggest that the cost in policing town centres is very high! Especially when they are shipped in. The point i was trying to get across is that quite often the police response is disproportionate to the problem, and that it is precisely this behaviour and attitude that alienates young and some old people. As for the "regular occurence" i cannot say, it was merely an example, the girl was only remonstrating about the way that her partner had been treated, no one is saying they were angels! Where is the respect from the police to deal with the situation in a reasonable way. Easy, spray 'em, knock 'em over, sorted! that is not policing.

The problem as I see it with drunken crowds, is that you can not allow one to start remonstrating about how or why another has been arrested. It can be a volatile situation.
I would hazard a sneaky guess the girl in question pushed and pushed, when she could have walked away
Of coarse the police can and will over step the mark, they are human just like the rest of us. But there will be channels and procedures to follow which will be far more fruit-full than drunkenly berating the police in question
Being a regular Friday night drinker in my city centre for over 30 years, I have seen many instances of police having to deal with drunken behaviour. Drunks very rarely, if ever, remonstrate in a courteous and civilised manner and whilst I'm sure that at times the police response is disproportionate I would rather have a police presence than not as the behaviour of drunken louts is similarly disproportionate.
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.
Quote by GnV
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.

Truly sickening
Quote by Bluefish2009
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.

Truly sickening
Which bit Blue?
The low life or the cure? :lol2:
Quote by GnV
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.

Truly sickening
Which bit Blue?
The low life or the cure? :lol2:
I could administer the cure myself :taz:
Quote by GnV
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.

i too am sickened by the mugging and death of the pensioner, but your comment;
"They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again" are you advocating that the police should do this to any drunken person that remonstrates with them?
Or gangs of vigilantes going around "beating the crap" out of any drunken person that may be mouthing off!
So you've just got out of hospital after 2 weeks having been shot in the face and nearly losing your sight in one eye,a policeman stops you sprays you in the face with cs gas and searches you for cannabis (he finds non)....is it at all possible you might swear at him ???
Quote by Onthebeach_1
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.

i too am sickened by the mugging and death of the pensioner, but your comment;
"They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again" are you advocating that the police should do this to any drunken person that remonstrates with them?
Or gangs of vigilantes going around "beating the crap" out of any drunken person that may be mouthing off!
No, not gangs of vigilantes - never.
When I was young, if I swore at my teacher, I would be facing the Head Teacher brandishing a rather ugly strap or cane. As far as I recall, not very many of my contemporaries revisited the Head Master.
Nor did I.
The UK is too soft. I've seen footage of the CRS (riot police in France) physically picking people up and throwing them back over barriers in Paris.
I've yet to come across evidence of prosecutions against Police, Gendarme, CRS or GIGN for brutality.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
So you've just got out of hospital after 2 weeks having been shot in the face and nearly losing your sight in one eye,a policeman stops you sprays you in the face with cs gas and searches you for cannabis (he finds non)....is it at all possible you might swear at him ???

I am Farley certain that if one cooperates with an officer it negates the use of cs gas and such like. The path of least resistance can often be the way forward
the sad fact is that with peeples attitudes cleerly shown on here towards the police, is it any wonder we are even talking about this.
the mugging of this poor old lady demonstrates yet again how low this society of ours has shrunk in terms of morality's and boundaries of right and wrong. if any person here can show me a crime anything like what happened to this old lady from thirty years ago or longer i would like to see it.
i beleeve that it would never have happened at that time or before as the police would have had the powers to find them and give these thugs a pasting and then the courts would have thrown them in jail for a long period of time, unlike the soft rubbish sentenances that the judges and ken I am a wally clarke now insist on.
peeples soft attitudes over the years have led us into a society of low lifes and peeple who are not scared of anything let alone the police. i say let the police do there job properly and give peeple like this and many others a good hiding in the back of there vans. yes a few inocents may get caught up in it but it may be worth that for some to say that at leest some guilty peeple got what they deserve and justice of sorts was done. unlike almost every low life doing the most horrid of crimes getting away with it, or some soft time in jail of which is no punishment.
society in the young is sick on so many levels and we have peeple in the age group on this web site to thank for most of that.
Quote by Bluefish2009
They should be allowed to beat the living crap out of them so they won't do it again.
Just like those two bits of low-life who caused the death of that poor unfortunate 79 year old pensioner holding on to her handbag containing her dead husbands ashes (and a significant sum in cash allegedly). They should be publicly castrated.
Truth is, they will probably get off scot free with a warning not to do it in front of the CCTV next time.

Truly sickening
But, sadly, not suprising........
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
So you've just got out of hospital after 2 weeks having been shot in the face and nearly losing your sight in one eye,a policeman stops you sprays you in the face with cs gas and searches you for cannabis (he finds non)....is it at all possible you might swear at him ???

just wondering why you would bring a sketch containing a racist police officer into the debate dunno
are you hoping for the imminent return of kenty or something blink
Quote by Lizaleanrob
So you've just got out of hospital after 2 weeks having been shot in the face and nearly losing your sight in one eye,a policeman stops you sprays you in the face with cs gas and searches you for cannabis (he finds non)....is it at all possible you might swear at him ???

just wondering why you would bring a sketch containing a racist police officer into the debate dunno
are you hoping for the imminent return of kenty or something blink
i was thinking the same thing. :notes:
maybe the insinuation is that it is always the racist foul mouthed police officer that is at fault, and the general public are always very nice peeple to deel with perhaps? :dunno:
especialy those nice peeple on a weekend that are ever so well behaved after the pubs have shut down. poor peeple all they want to do is have a fight and be general pain in the arses for hevans sake. then those nasty policemen come along and tell us to go home and stop causing truble. then they get all angry when we tyell them to fuck off, fucking wanker cunts.
cannot see any problems at all except those nasty horrid policemen spoiling everyones fun.loon
just no sense of humour some peeple eh :dunno:
Quote by Lizaleanrob
So you've just got out of hospital after 2 weeks having been shot in the face and nearly losing your sight in one eye,a policeman stops you sprays you in the face with cs gas and searches you for cannabis (he finds non)....is it at all possible you might swear at him ???

just wondering why you would bring a sketch containing a racist police officer into the debate dunno
are you hoping for the imminent return of kenty or something blink
It was really more in relation to constable Savages' single minded determination to get his man for anything no matter how many times he failed .... i.e. we didn't get him for drugs but then again he did swear at us. BINGO !!! it does sound a little like our man was being victimised ,no??
Was he wearing a loud shirt after 11pm?
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
So you've just got out of hospital after 2 weeks having been shot in the face and nearly losing your sight in one eye,a policeman stops you sprays you in the face with cs gas and searches you for cannabis (he finds non)....is it at all possible you might swear at him ???

just wondering why you would bring a sketch containing a racist police officer into the debate dunno
are you hoping for the imminent return of kenty or something blink
It was really more in relation to constable Savages' single minded determination to get his man for anything no matter how many times he failed .... i.e. we didn't get him for drugs but then again he did swear at us. BINGO !!! it does sound a little like our man was being victimised ,no??
I am Farley certain that if one cooperates with an officer it negates the use of cs gas and such like. The path of least resistance can often be the way forward
Quote by Ben_Minx
Was he wearing a loud shirt after 11pm?

Well if this was the case he deserved every thing he got!!
Quote by starlightcouple
the sad fact is that with peeples attitudes cleerly shown on here towards the police, is it any wonder we are even talking about this.
the mugging of this poor old lady demonstrates yet again how low this society of ours has shrunk in terms of morality's and boundaries of right and wrong. if any person here can show me a crime anything like what happened to this old lady from thirty years ago or longer i would like to see it.
i beleeve that it would never have happened at that time or before as the police would have had the powers to find them and give these thugs a pasting and then the courts would have thrown them in jail for a long period of time, unlike the soft rubbish sentenances that the judges and ken I am a wally clarke now insist on.
peeples soft attitudes over the years have led us into a society of low lifes and peeple who are not scared of anything let alone the police. i say let the police do there job properly and give peeple like this and many others a good hiding in the back of there vans. yes a few inocents may get caught up in it but it may be worth that for some to say that at leest some guilty peeple got what they deserve and justice of sorts was done. unlike almost every low life doing the most horrid of crimes getting away with it, or some soft time in jail of which is no punishment.
society in the young is sick on so many levels and we have peeple in the age group on this web site to thank for most of that.





well not quite 30 years but close
There is a determination in certain areas of the press and their impressionable readers that we are on the fast track to hell,even a cursory glance at history tends to suggest otherwise,we either arrived centuries ago or we've missed the train entirely .... there is nothing new
Quote by starlightcouple
the sad fact is that with peeples attitudes cleerly shown on here towards the police, is it any wonder we are even talking about this.
the mugging of this poor old lady demonstrates yet again how low this society of ours has shrunk in terms of morality's and boundaries of right and wrong. if any person here can show me a crime anything like what happened to this old lady from thirty years ago or longer i would like to see it.
i beleeve that it would never have happened at that time or before as the police would have had the powers to find them and give these thugs a pasting and then the courts would have thrown them in jail for a long period of time, unlike the soft rubbish sentenances that the judges and ken I am a wally clarke now insist on.
peeples soft attitudes over the years have led us into a society of low lifes and peeple who are not scared of anything let alone the police. i say let the police do there job properly and give peeple like this and many others a good hiding in the back of there vans. yes a few inocents may get caught up in it but it may be worth that for some to say that at leest some guilty peeple got what they deserve and justice of sorts was done. unlike almost every low life doing the most horrid of crimes getting away with it, or some soft time in jail of which is no punishment.
society in the young is sick on so many levels and we have peeple in the age group on this web site to thank for most of that.

i think it is very relevent that we talk about these issues and attitudes about society and the police. the mugging and death of the pensioner is a disgusting crime. howevr to say crimes of this nature never happened previously is i think wrong. if i had time to trawl through the Old bailey records, i am sure i could find equally disgusting crimes against people. i do agree that sentences handed down now may be more lenient, however i could not confirm that.
i am afraid the "attitudes clearly shown on here" are exactly for the reason you advocate,
" i say let the police do there job properly and give peeple like this and many others a good hiding in the back of there vans. yes a few inocents may get caught up in it but it may be worth that for some to say that at leest some guilty peeple got what they deserve and justice of sorts was done" i am sure that this still happens anyway and is that their proper job, to beat up people in the back of a van?
i would never dispute that there are some "sick" young people in society, and i am sure we could all find a thousand reasons for why they are like they are. i have my own views which are not for this forum, however i do not fully understand your last comment?
"society in the young is sick on so many levels and we have peeple in the age group on this web site to thank for most of that"
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
There is a determination in certain areas of the press and their impressionable readers that we are on the fast track to hell,even a cursory glance at history tends to suggest otherwise,we either arrived centuries ago or we've missed the train entirely .... there is nothing new

Not even, certain areas of the press or their impressionable readers are new!
Quote by Onthebeach_1
i would never dispute that there are some "sick" young people in society, and i am sure we could all find a thousand reasons for why they are like they are. i have my own views which are not for this forum, however i do not fully understand your last comment?
"society in the young is sick on so many levels and we have peeple in the age group on this web site to thank for most of that"

it is reely simple. the vast majority of these crimes are commited by peeple under 25. you can of course crawl through the old baily archives for crimes such as this, but yesterday i spoke with a gentleman of 89 years young and we was talking about this old lady and it was he that said that kind of crime against a elderly lady through being mugged would never ever have happened in his time. now of course if you can beat his 89 years of wordly experience on this earth with anything constructive i will of course listen to it.
the sickening crimes of mugging and gang culture and drug abuse is in the main caused by young peeple as i have mentioned alredy. the peeple that have been arrested for this crime are how old exactly?
i could easily list pages of crimes over the last five yeers, some that are sickening crimes for young offenders. here is one that caused a bit of a stir only a while back.

this would have happened thirty yeers ago then? what by other youths with guns? what reely?
There was that young bloke bentley in teh 50s what shot a copper.
Quote by Ben_Minx
There was that young bloke bentley in teh 50s what shot a copper.

thankyou for that ben.
have you any examples of ladies being mugged in the 50's or a youth shooting another youth from the 50's.
two examples of each would be fine and let us remember ben we are going back 60 yeers here so plenty more time to find horrid crimes.
i will only go back ten yeers. i think i can find a page of crimes to your one instance.
i shall start by saying the james bulger killers who were not even teenagers. does that count?
Of course, there was no violent crime before this generation. No 'youth' ever killed an old lady while trying to rob her, no youths had guns or shot each other. Children never got caught in the cross-fire. Never.
One 89 year old can't remember a similar crime and we take that as a basis for assumptions about a whole country/generation. Hardly statistically significant. I've no doubt he remembers every winter as snow-filled and every summer as long and sunny.
My mothers cousin was mugged in 1951 by a shifty looking bloke in a black fedora and spats using a webley service revolver.
My mother was jumped on in the blackout by a fella in a wig with a glass eye.
My father used to keep a selection of sharpened coins in his pockets at the weekend to defend himself from street fights.
Quote by starlightcouple
There was that young bloke bentley in teh 50s what shot a copper.

thankyou for that ben.
have you any examples of ladies being mugged in the 50's or a youth shooting another youth from the 50's.
two examples of each would be fine and let us remember ben we are going back 60 yeers here so plenty more time to find horrid crimes.
i will only go back ten yeers. i think i can find a page of crimes to your one instance.
i shall start by saying the james bulger killers who were not even teenagers. does that count?
Mary Bell ....didn't even have to search
You are and always will be wrong .... for one reason if no other,you've already decided, no matter how many similar crimes from all of human history you may be presented with,no matter how much evidence you are presented with you will not see it,you'll refuse to see you ask for facts and evidence then you have to look at it all not just that which fits your preconceptions
Quote by Ben_Minx
My mothers cousin was mugged in 1951 by a shifty looking bloke in a black fedora and spats using a webley service revolver.
My mother was jumped on in the blackout by a fella in a wig with a glass eye.
My father used to keep a selection of sharpened coins in his pockets at the weekend to defend himself from street fights.

Why did the wig require this glass eye??? lol
a little out of date
but i doubt there's been another report commissioned since

still..... makes a little more sence than most of the dribble being spouted flipa