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Swine Fever are we in for an epidemic ???

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I wonder why Swine Flu has taken such a grip in the UK? 100,000 new cases a week - wow. Is it maybe because the vast majority of cases are diagnosed over the phone and/or via helpline? Just how many of these Swine Flu cases are ordinary flu or plain and simple summer colds and chills?
We Brits are so funny - nothing quite like taking things seriously eh?
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Cynical?????? - Me ???????????????
I wonder why Swine Flu has taken such a grip in the UK? 100,000 new cases a week - wow. Is it maybe because the vast majority of cases are diagnosed over the phone and/or via helpline? Just how many of these Swine Flu cases are ordinary flu or plain and simple summer colds and chills?
We Brits are so funny - nothing quite like taking things seriously eh?

my child may well be suffering from another flu other than swine flu however its definetly flu, summer cold and chills (or any time of the year cold and chill) dont make people as ill as she is !!
there are to many cases now for each to be tested
Not sure but I think counties are not obligated count swine flu cases any more.
I wonder why a friend of mine whos a gp son has swine flu and he said he will not be having the medication,
It makes you wonder, he said he is fit enough and the antibodies he will gain out weigh the risks of the medication.
I have had normal flu once a few years back, and you are really ill, high temperture aching everywhere with a pounding headache, I could not get out of bed for 4 days if I wanted to.
I really don't know what the flus have that are so different from each other.
you dont have to take the tamiflu, its ur choice altho i think they recomend that people with other health problems take it
they say that its helpful in preventing further complications in people with asthma etc
a chest infection or worse is awful for asthmatics
Oh, no...........................
Just heard on the radio that some people are taking advantage of the swine flu hysteria and getting themselves diagnosed on the phone and extending their summer holidays. Expected to cost industry billions and raising questions about the integrity of workers.
Well !!! would you fucking believe it !! Who would have thought that??
Above comment absolutely spot on.
I read on the BBC website that cases this week had dramatically dropped, I wonder if that's because all the malingerers have used up that excuse.
It's amazing all the known scivers at work have all had it, indeed one twice. Nobody else has.
Well after all the hype and over exageration, Swine flu it seems has just been a load of hot air.
I am not a lover of Mr. Littlejohn but this artical is absolutly bang on the money.

new cases every day eh? What a load of old balloney.....how much are these so called experts on a year? A lot more than they should be.
As I stated much earlier in this thread.....the ammount of people that have died on our roads far far far outweighs the Swine flu " pandemic ".....or did they say " epidemic "? Neither has happened and a typical over reaction which once again has cost millions of pounds of taxpayers money.
This Government could not run a bath properly!
It must be said, that a lot of people who work for the NHS (including myself) have worked very hard in the past few months putting in place many preventative measures to avoid cross-infection between medical staff and patients. I think the telling time will be when kids go back to school and the weather turns colder. Little Johnny sneezes in class, and other kids catch the virus and before it mutates to full-blown symptoms, they visit their grandma in the home. Grandma then goes to the bingo evening with Doris, who sneezes. It can spread very easily, given the right conditions. I don't believe we've reached the right conditions yet, but we may very soon.
Deaths each year in the uk from hypothermia far exceed road deaths. We're still trying to stop global warming though.
At least we have an nhs under this government, the blue alternative will sell it to their friends, as they always have done. In any case, they're damned if they do anything and damned if they don't.
The forecasts for this current H1N1 virus are based upon past epidemics. The last one had a small flurry of cases and then after another 6 months the "second wave" arrived. Most seasonal flu does exactly that.
In any case, nobody has ever died from influenza. The deaths come from secondary illnesses, mainly pneumonia.
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Deaths each year in the uk from hypothermia far exceed road deaths. We're still trying to stop global warming though.
At least we have an nhs under this government, the blue alternative will sell it to their friends, as they always have done. In any case, they're damned if they do anything and damned if they don't.
The forecasts for this current H1N1 virus are based upon past epidemics. The last one had a small flurry of cases and then after another 6 months the "second wave" arrived. Most seasonal flu does exactly that.
In any case, nobody has ever died from influenza. The deaths come from secondary illnesses, mainly pneumonia.

That will be a hard one as we don't know for sure if it is humans that are causing it.
Still banning 100 watt lightbulbs is sure gonna make a huge difference. :shock:
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We're still trying to stop global warming though.

Still banning 100 watt lightbulbs is sure gonna make a huge difference. :shock:
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but this is an interesting theory actually if the OP doesn't mind the intrusion.
I read an article the other day (from the UK HPA) that the EU policy on banning incandescent light bulbs in favour of the new energy saving variety (CFL's) is switching from one hazard (global warming) to another more serious one - ultraviolet radiation. It is suggested the risk is marginal (well, the would, wouldn't they!) but if there is no risk, why spend millions producing public information leaflets about it?
As for Global Warming, this is a huge money earner for Governments (and friends of Governments). If you are a conspiracy theorist, you would remind people that the reverse is happening in the Southern hemisphere as the ice cap is thickening pointing towards the development of a new ice age :shock:
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We're still trying to stop global warming though.

Still banning 100 watt lightbulbs is sure gonna make a huge difference. :shock:
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but this is an interesting theory actually if the OP doesn't mind the intrusion.
I read an article the other day (from the UK HPA) that the EU policy on banning incandescent light bulbs in favour of the new energy saving variety (CFL's) is switching from one hazard (global warming) to another more serious one - ultraviolet radiation. It is suggested the risk is marginal (well, the would, wouldn't they!) but if there is no risk, why spend millions producing public information leaflets about it?
As for Global Warming, this is a huge money earner for Governments (and friends of Governments). If you are a conspiracy theorist, you would remind people that the reverse is happening in the Southern hemisphere as the ice cap is thickening pointing towards the development of a new ice age :shock:
There is also the problem of Mercury in the new bulbs. Apparently a room should be vacated for 15 mins should one be broken and care taken not to inhale the dust!
As for Global Warming, haven't you noticed that it's now called climate change? I think that's down to the fact that "they" haven't really got a clue as to what the long term effects of any change will be....there are theories that Britain will end up having a climate similar to Alaska rather than the Med.
I find website to offer the most understandable explanation for the reasoning behind the current H1N1 influenza outbreak and subsequent panic. I think it is better to be prepared and spend some tens of millions on that preparation than spend hundreds of millions burying the dead. But that may just be me.
It is only illegal to sell 100 watt incandescent bulbs intended for HOUSEHOLD use. It is still legal to sell them for other uses.
As for the effects on the enviro-eco-nment of stopping sales of the hot bulbs....in winter your heating costs will rise by an amount equivalent to the amount of watts you reduced by switching to cold bulbs !
Money-earner ?
Did you EVER think it was about anything else ?
There is NO evidence...NONE...that global warming is caused by CO2 emissions. There is plenty that CO2 emissions are increasing plant growth though...and even if the arctic ice melted entirely it would not raise the oceans levels at all...Not. One. Bit.
Just now JTS, I am half way through reading a book called State of Fear by Michael Crichton which is surprisingly close to what you have said.
All is not as it seems or as we are fed by the Government machine :shock:
Back to the OP.
How about IMMUNOCONTRACEPTIVE hidden in the flu vaccine?

Worrying stuff eh?
Is this why BLiar didn't have his son Leo vaccinated in 2000 with the MMR vaccine?
SO...............was I right or not? wink
Seems Swine flu has been and gone. Millions did not die from it....A pandemic? Where was that exactly?
A few people had it I presume though it could have just been a bad dose of the normal flu?
A few people unfortunately died from it, but most had " underlying health problems " already.
I think many more people died from the usual flu at this time of year, than the so called...Swine flu.
What is quite funny is that Boots the Chemist ( but they hate being known as that now ), it is just Boots, have made massive losses last year because their cold remedies over the counter ( otc )have slumped, simply because of the Swine flu panic so many more people have been washing their hands and not spreading the cold and flu viruses around.
Don't ask me how I know this...I just do. Apparently it runs into millions of pounds.
So a very simple and I would have thought hygienic thing to do is to WASH YOUR HANDS, as many times as possible during the day. That is about as good advice as you can get on a Weds morning. lol

" The total number of vaccine doses administered to the priority groups in England was million. This figure includes 140,000 pregnant women and 404,000 healthy children aged six months to under 5 years ".
Hardly the whole population.
In fact out of all the people that I know...and that is a lot, I do not know of a single person that had the jab.
Maybe the Swine flu scare never actually happened at all?
You say that and I say something else.
The figures indicate only a small ammount or people were ever vaccinated!
Ok/// wink
We actually get plenty of mail.
You really do need to read what people write.
I said quite clearly that I that is me....did not know anyone who had the jab.
Ok so others do...so what?
The whole point of the thread for me was that I did not believe all the bollox surrounding the Swine flu pandemic.
Now Google the figures showing how many actually had the jab, and if you are clever you will find that a large percentage of people did not.
Cannot understand how you can fail to recognise that.
Anyway I bet you get tons and tons of mail.....
" In fact out of all the people that I know...and that is a lot, I do not know of a single person that had the jab ".
It is only just above ya know.
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We actually get plenty of mail.
You really do need to read what people write.
I said quite clearly that I that is me....did not know anyone who had the jab.
Ok so others do...so what?
The whole point of the thread for me was that I did not believe all the bollox surrounding the Swine flu pandemic.
Now Google the figures showing how many actually had the jab, and if you are clever you will find that a large percentage of people did not.
Cannot understand how you can fail to recognise that.
Anyway I bet you get tons and tons of mail.....
" In fact out of all the people that I know...and that is a lot, I do not know of a single person that had the jab ".
It is only just above ya know.

sorry me not clever enuff to recognie why your self selected sample of people isnt an adequate control group to pontificate about.
And yes i get loads of mail,some evenn not about posts on the forum wink
That's ok.....nobody is perfect.
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i know i must learn to remember my place,perhaps a collar and leash would help :twisted:

A chain that allows travel between the sink,cooker,microwave,fridge,washing machine and serving hatch will suffice ..
bolt
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sorry me not clever enuff to recognie why your self selected sample of people isnt an adequate control group to pontificate about.
And yes i get loads of mail,some evenn not about posts on the forum wink

Oh Kaz ... how could you possibly be clever enough ?? You are just a woman after all ...
i know i must learn to remember my place,perhaps a collar and leash would help :twisted:
That is the most sensible thing I have heard you say on here. lol :lol:
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OK, I admit to a slight conflict of interest here - as an ex-GP, and someone who until last year worked for a vaccine-manufacturing pharma company, I have a little bit of the inside knowledge regarding what's going on. As Midsprincess so comprehensively outlined, the estimate is that 1/3 of the population will have swine flu by the end of summer. It's also been estimated that there will be approximately 100,000 new cases diagnosed per day by then. As it stands, the virus is very contagious, but not particularly virulent - the death rate is similar to what would be expected from a "normal" flu outbreak. In terms of the vaccine, it takes a few months to "grow" the vaccine - it's not a case of simply manufacturing it. The annual flu jab protects against the predicted common strains, and has to be produced months in advance of the vaccination campaign, so sometimes they get it wrong, and people still get the flu. The vaccine CAN NOT cause flu. It causes some flu-like symptoms in some individuals, but it is an inactive vaccine, and therefore cannot possibly cause any illness directly. If people have suffered from full-blown flu, then they've just caught a strain which wasn't in the vaccine.
And as was pointed out earlier in this thread, Tamiflu is NOT a vaccine. They are two very different things - the vaccine will protect people and prevent them getting certain strains of the flu. Tamiflu reduces the severity once you get it.
Apparently the Government have now ordered in enough vaccine to vaccinate the entire population - having said that, I'd be very surprised if we all get it - I suspect it will be kids, the elderly and the unwell, and, if there is any left (it will arrive in batches), anyone willing to pay for it.
Not sure whether that helps or not, but thought I should just set a few things straight.
mmmm, dont know which med shool you went to ? perhaps it was baxters or smith kline glaxo ?