Tesco

23 Apr 2011

The riots in Bristol against the opening of a tesco could only be the tip of the iceberg

My own local town`s people voted against a large tesco being built. but the local council are still allowing it to be built dunno

The rise of the supermarket had been blamed for the destruction and demise of close communities of fruit n veg ,butchers, fish mongers as well as local newsagents etc etc
In another local town to me a tesco had to be closed when the local community boycotted it
what do you think ?

23 Apr 2011

Well, don't know the rights and wrongs of this case, but if I'd been protesting about the Tesco's I'd have been holding placards which said similar things to the "pro-democracy" protesters in Eygpt etc. Such as "We want Local Democracy", "let our voices be heard" etc.
Noticing the pictures of the rioters they hardly looked like your normal rent-a-mob. So again if they'd been holding placards as above, with the bloodied faces that some exhibited, while the police were in the background with the riot shields etc, would have made interesting TV, wouldn't it? Do you think the Gov might have been a little uneasy about that?
John

23 Apr 2011

Quote by Lizaleanrob
The riots in Bristol against the opening of a tesco could only be the tip of the iceberg

My own local town`s people voted against a large tesco being built. but the local council are still allowing it to be built
The rise of the supermarket had been blamed for the destruction and demise of close communities of fruit n veg ,butchers, fish mongers as well as local newsagents etc etc
In another local town to me a tesco had to be closed when the local community boycotted it

what do you think ?

I think this is the right way to deal with situations like this.
If you are uncomfortable with the likes of the big supermarkets and the planners allowing them to build seemingly unfettered in prime locations, boycott the supermarket and support your local grocer, butcher, baker etc and change the Council at the next possible election.
Violent protests are not the way forward.

23 Apr 2011

Quote by GnV
The riots in Bristol against the opening of a tesco could only be the tip of the iceberg

My own local town`s people voted against a large tesco being built. but the local council are still allowing it to be built
The rise of the supermarket had been blamed for the destruction and demise of close communities of fruit n veg ,butchers, fish mongers as well as local newsagents etc etc
In another local town to me a tesco had to be closed when the local community boycotted it

what do you think ?

I think this is the right way to deal with situations like this.
If you are uncomfortable with the likes of the big supermarkets and the planners allowing them to build seemingly unfettered in prime locations, boycott the supermarket and support your local grocer, butcher, baker etc
i always use the (not so local now days) butchers and fruit n veg .far too many think the supermarket is cheaper ......its not and i get far better quality food and some locally produced (and i can still buy a rabbit from my butcher ) wink

and change the Council at the next possible election.
far too many do not vote at local elections but hey i don`t think your entitled to moan if your willingly shop in the supermarkets week in week out for such produce
Violent protests are not the way forward.agreed

23 Apr 2011

big companies will always get what they want because council officials love back handers.

23 Apr 2011

Quote by tyracer
big companies will always get what they want because council officials love back handers.

OOOOOOOOoooooooo, you're not for one minute suggesting that our Council Officials are corrupt are you????
This should open up a few interesting posts....

23 Apr 2011

Quote by tyracer
big companies will always get what they want because council officials love back handers.

mrs star says that all the time but i am far less synical lol

23 Apr 2011

Quote by starlightcouple
big companies will always get what they want because council officials love back handers.

mrs star says that all the time but i am far less synical lol

Let those who are without syn (sic) cast the first stone...

23 Apr 2011

Supermarkets are only as big as they are because people use them........

24 Apr 2011

Quote by Lizaleanrob
The riots in Bristol against the opening of a tesco could only be the tip of the iceberg

My own local town`s people voted against a large tesco being built. but the local council are still allowing it to be built
The rise of the supermarket had been blamed for the destruction and demise of close communities of fruit n veg ,butchers, fish mongers as well as local newsagents etc etc
In another local town to me a tesco had to be closed when the local community boycotted it
what do you think ?

Stupid people with too much time on their hands. Tesco apply for stores in accordance with local planning regulations.
It really is very simple, neither the general public, nor Tesco, can flaunt planning law. If the general public don't want a shop (any shop) that has been legitimately opened in accordance with the local planning authorities regiulations then the general public should simply not shop there.
Problem is that people don't like change but really we have not enough time in life to go to a butcher, then a green grocer, then the chemist etc etc. Everything under one roof fits modern living and hence Tesco, Asda etc and the rise of the supermarket/hypermarket. Simple evolution.

24 Apr 2011

Quote by Too Hot
The riots in Bristol against the opening of a tesco could only be the tip of the iceberg

My own local town`s people voted against a large tesco being built. but the local council are still allowing it to be built
The rise of the supermarket had been blamed for the destruction and demise of close communities of fruit n veg ,butchers, fish mongers as well as local newsagents etc etc
In another local town to me a tesco had to be closed when the local community boycotted it
what do you think ?

Stupid people with too much time on their hands. Tesco apply for stores in accordance with local planning regulations.
our local council requisitioned the land including compulsory purchasing shops houses etc in the name of redevelopment
the plans for new houses etc were passed. then the crunch tesco plans were entered and passed despite fierce opposition . it was then it became clear that tesco was building the new houses as part of the deal ??
next after a public outcry a referendum was held in which it was voted an overwhelming no and still the whole project is going ahead dunno

It really is very simple, neither the general public, nor Tesco, can flaunt planning law. If the general public don't want a shop (any shop) that has been legitimately opened in accordance with the local planning authorities regiulations then the general public should simply not shop there.
Problem is that people don't like change but really we have not enough time in life to go to a butcher, then a green grocer, then the chemist etc etc. Everything under one roof fits modern living and hence Tesco, Asda etc and the rise of the supermarket/hypermarket. Simple evolution. i take it you don`t care about the taste of your food then try the tomato test supermarkets are tasteless

24 Apr 2011

Don't shop there then.
If everyone felt the same way Tesco would go out of business instead of being the number one retailer.
I'd say they have a better understanding of commercial retailing than you do and their profit statements seem to back this up. There are always little micro activvist groups protesting about this, that or the other and in fact it is just a quaint and English thing to do - unfortunately the demands of the mass market will always outweigh the voices of the little people and their pointless protests.

24 Apr 2011

Quote by Too Hot
Don't shop there then.
If everyone felt the same way Tesco would go out of business instead of being the number one retailer.
I'd say they have a better understanding of commercial retailing than you do and their profit statements seem to back this up. There are always little micro activvist groups protesting about this, that or the other and in fact it is just a quaint and English thing to do - unfortunately the demands of the mass market will always outweigh the voices of the little people and their pointless protests.

i don`t

once a month i do asda for some general shit
but every two weeks i go and get meat from the butchers and veg from the grocer`s
and guess what not only is it better its also cheaper :bounce::bounce::bounce:
i have no objection for the likes of tesco`s catering for the brainless masses
i only object to them forcing their will on people when its not wanted
let em open the store its gonna be awfully quiet just like the closed one in the neighbouring town

24 Apr 2011

Quote by flower411

It really is very simple, neither the general public, nor Tesco, can flaunt planning law.

That really does have to be the most naive comment I`ve seen in here for a long time !!
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:

24 Apr 2011

Quote by Lizaleanrob

It really is very simple, neither the general public, nor Tesco, can flaunt planning law.

That really does have to be the most naive comment I`ve seen in here for a long time !!
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
With any law.........someone or something will flaunt it, as it is sometimes cheaper to do wrong then put it right after.
Dave_Notts

24 Apr 2011

nice to know im part of the brainless masses lol
i love tescos, i find its cheap and convient
i work long hours and im also a mum and also a student so no way can i go from butchers to grocers to chemist etc ... i dont have the time nor the money to do that cus where i live tescos is the cheapest and best quality choice, the butchers is way out of my price range and when i did once try the one in the village i live in the meat was very fatty aswell as pricey sad

we are hopefully getting a small tescos in our village soon so life will be easy then smile

24 Apr 2011

Just because these mega stores can throw it out at cheap prices it doesn`t make it good quality.
I wholly agree with the tomato test, the local grocers by me have veg with dirt on that taste like veg is supposed to and tomotoes on the vine that smell like the ones you grow in a greenhouse and taste divine, and sweet and juicy cucumbers not the bitter dried up things you get in supermarkets.
The local butcher has great cuts of meat not that pale stuff they sell in supermarkets as best top side of beef, or some scraggy bit of lamb for around a tenner, and real bacon not that watered-down wafer thin shit that takes 5 slices to make a decent sandwich.
The only advantage a super market has is the opening hours if you need butter at at night.
Keep it local thats what I say

25 Apr 2011

So thats it, the problem is solved, anyone who doesn't like supermarkets won't use them and they will go out of business very soon because of thier high overheads, be a bad thing for employment around the country but a good thing for small shops selling tomatoes wink

25 Apr 2011

Quote by MidsCouple24
So thats it, the problem is solved, anyone who doesn't like supermarkets won't use them and they will go out of business very soon because of thier high overheads, be a bad thing for employment around the country but a good thing for small shops selling tomatoes

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yea funny
there`s a huge tear in your tights(argument) though
so if the supermarkets did go would they not be replaced by local butchers grocers etc creating possibly more jobs than the supermarkets employ :doh:
but we know that wont happen like danne says it suits her and millions of others with modern living
it doesn`t suit me and probably a lot of people like me who like to taste their food and its not just tomatoes wink

you might want to checkout how some of the veg you eat is grown for supermarkets some not even in soil
our local town has a sainsbury`s .waitrose and an adsa near by
so why does a tesco need to be built? and at the same time decimating 30% of our local park the compulsory purchase of a pub ,20 shops,(now out of business) and a further 40 houses oh and an ex serviceman's club
over 50% of our local town voted against the tesco`s but hey fuck off back handers put paid to that.
do i care? not really let em do it, now the towns fucked with the loss of shops anyway and i live far enough away
and i used this as an example as to why some may wish to protest against such aggressive marketing
but on the bright side i live in Kent so fresh produce and farm shops are plenty we have a v/good butchers as stated earlier
who is so busy he opens am friday n saturday ,most of his meat comes from the British isles and not twelve week old argentinian shit supermarkets sell . did i mention he was also cheaper lol

25 Apr 2011

Quote by MidsCouple24
So thats it, the problem is solved, anyone who doesn't like supermarkets won't use them and they will go out of business very soon because of thier high overheads, be a bad thing for employment around the country but a good thing for small shops selling tomatoes

you might want to checkout how some of the veg you eat is grown for supermarkets some not even in soil
our local town has a sainsbury`s .waitrose and an adsa near by
so why does a tesco need to be built? and at the same time decimating 30% of our local park the compulsory purchase of a pub ,20 shops,(now out of business) and a further 40 houses oh and an ex serviceman's club
over 50% of our local town voted against the tesco`s but hey fuck off back handers put paid to that.
do i care? not really let em do it, now the towns fucked with the loss of shops anyway and i live far enough away
and i used this as an example as to why some may wish to protest against such aggressive marketing
but on the bright side i live in Kent so fresh produce and farm shops are plenty we have a v/good butchers as stated earlier
who is so busy he opens am friday n saturday ,most of his meat comes from the British isles and not argentina like supermarket meat. did i mention he was also cheaper lol

25 Apr 2011

Quote by Danne
nice to know im part of the brainless masses lol

i love tescos, i find its cheap and convient
i work long hours and im also a mum and also a student so no way can i go from butchers to grocers to chemist etc ... i dont have the time nor the money to do that cus where i live tescos is the cheapest and best quality choice, the butchers is way out of my price range and when i did once try the one in the village i live in the meat was very fatty aswell as pricey
we are hopefully getting a small tescos in our village soon so life will be easy then

sorry Danne no offence meant redface

25 Apr 2011

i have tried local shops (butchers, farm shop and grocers) and didnt find the meat or tomatoes tasted any better than tescos smile

in fact i found them lacking in taste and the meat was very fatty !
plus they are open 9 am until 5 or 6 pm which means they arnt open when im home to shop which is probably the same for many people who also chose to shop at a supermarket which is open earlier and later then local shops
we do however grow most our own veg, salad and some fruit in the summer but revert to buying from tescos in the winter smile

the tescos i use must source its food from good supliers smile

25 Apr 2011

Quote by Lizaleanrob
nice to know im part of the brainless masses lol

i love tescos, i find its cheap and convient
i work long hours and im also a mum and also a student so no way can i go from butchers to grocers to chemist etc ... i dont have the time nor the money to do that cus where i live tescos is the cheapest and best quality choice, the butchers is way out of my price range and when i did once try the one in the village i live in the meat was very fatty aswell as pricey
we are hopefully getting a small tescos in our village soon so life will be easy then

sorry Danne no offence meant redface

its ok none taken smile

i know im not brainless and that im clever enough to make my own choices about where and what i buy and eat smile

25 Apr 2011

Well I count myself very lucky then coz my local shop opens at and closes at 8.
I don`t think anyone is realstically saying don`t shop in them but the large stores have strangled out the corner shops where local produce was sold, the sort of places you`d meet friends and neighbours for a chat, I remember those days, the smaller shops were part of the cummunity now replaced for many of us by endless queueing at a till.
Its not about tomatoes ffs, its about community

25 Apr 2011

Quote by mrs-bmw
Well I count myself very lucky then coz my local shop opens at and closes at 8.
I don`t think anyone is realstically saying don`t shop in them but the large stores have strangled out the corner shops where local produce was sold, the sort of places you`d meet friends and neighbours for a chat, I remember those days, the smaller shops were part of the cummunity now replaced for many of us by endless queueing at a till.
Its not about tomatoes ffs, its about community

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26 Apr 2011

Quote by flower411

It really is very simple, neither the general public, nor Tesco, can flaunt planning law.

That really does have to be the most naive comment I`ve seen in here for a long time !!
And that `would have to be the most immature retort I have have ever received in a considered discussion. If you are suggesting that Tesco, or someone/some other entity, is guilty of planning fraud then make the allegation and name names and get the people behind bars.
I am prepared to stand by what the law says. If you disagree - start the whitle blowing here and now and name the people behind the corruption that you allege. Give us one example from the many hundreds of thousands of retail stores, supermarkets etc opened in this country that has been opened against the local planning regulations and contrary to the local plan.
It is a bit more difficult to back up your stupid statement than to make it - isn't it? If you have proof lets see it - as they say - put up, or shut up.

26 Apr 2011

Quote by mrs-bmw
Well I count myself very lucky then coz my local shop opens at and closes at 8.
I don`t think anyone is realstically saying don`t shop in them but the large stores have strangled out the corner shops where local produce was sold, the sort of places you`d meet friends and neighbours for a chat, I remember those days, the smaller shops were part of the cummunity now replaced for many of us by endless queueing at a till.
Its not about tomatoes ffs, its about community

You are not wrong there but unfortunately life (and lives) change and so community life changes as well. Just look at the way your parents lived their lives compared to how you live yours. You might call them old fashioned but their lives and lifestyle was all about community living. You possibly don't have the same lifestyle as your parents and your children will have different ideas again.
Social changes invariably bring about changes in the way that the fabric of communities are woven and this inevitable change is simply unavoidable. As we age and our childrens social demands overtake our own we question - where it is all going wrong, just as your parents asked the same questions of us.
Evolution - you can't stop it.

26 Apr 2011

there are local shops in the village that open early but they are small supermarkets and papershops not the local butchers, grocers etc
community is all very well (and important for some people i do agree) but for me value for money and being able to buy what i like for the right price is more important.
we are all different and all live different lives, im not able to shop in the village cus the shops arnt open when im at home plus i object to paying hgh prices for the same goods i get at tescos
for me its progresss cus it means i can chose to spend my money and mt time as i want smile

26 Apr 2011

one of the things for me is i can eat the meat i want
8oz pieces of brazing steak (not the cubed stuff)
t bone steak
rabbit
rack of lamb
rib of beef
lamb shanks
bacon and chicken that contains more meat than water
thin slices of calfs liver
all of which i can get anytime at my butcher
most meat in supermarkets are sized to 2/4 or 6 people, so if we have a few for dinner say sometimes 8 or 10, then we need a joint big enough or a cauliflower that will feed more than 4 dunno

take this weekend i went into our butchers on Saturday, saw some lovely rib eye ..asked for two pieces then got asked how thick i wanted them mmmm wink

for me i don`t get these choice`s in Tesco or any other supermarket

26 Apr 2011

Quote by Danne
there are local shops in the village that open early but they are small supermarkets and papershops not the local butchers, grocers etc
community is all very well (and important for some people i do agree) but for me value for money and being able to buy what i like for the right price is more important.
we are all different and all live different lives, im not able to shop in the village cus the shops arnt open when im at home plus i object to paying hgh prices for the same goods i get at tescos
for me its progresss cus it means i can chose to spend my money and mt time as i want

Ah! all done in the name of progress...
And when the last of the local shops closes including the Post Office, the local bank and the such like, and you are tottering around with a walking stick for support and the nearest bus is a ten minute walk, what will you do then?
It's one thing to eat but to eat well doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be more expensively to which Rob has alluded.
The amount of stuff from supermarkets that people throw away these days is appalling. The amount of stuff that supermarkets throw away because it is no longer "pretty" on the shelf is equally disgusting. The marketeers are conditioning us and our food :shock: into an acceptance of that which is sub-quality is still "cool". You only have to ask the average young housewife which piece of beef is better, that which appears to be blood red or that which is dark. She will take the blood red one every time because she has been conditioned into doing so by supermarket "butchers" who have "conditioned" the meat to make it "look" appetising. That is their stock-in-trade. They may call themselves butchers but their task is none other than to market sub-standard product bought cheaply and sold at a high price.
Ask any "old dear" the same question and she knows the darker one will be much tastier and more tender. She also knows that she can have just as much as she needs from a traditional butcher (reducing waste and saving cost) rather than having to accept marketing "norms" encapsulated in cancer inducing plastic film with the meat steeped in "juices" contained in an equally appallingly unhealthy plastic tray and some absorbent matting of dubious heritage adding to the environmental problems we all know about but do nothing to resolve.

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