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Sex God
Evading questions ...... hmmmmmm..........now who do I know who...........
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Anyone who doesnt realsie the dangers associated with the BNP is a fool.
Then myself and a million others are fools then.
A bit like voting for Brown then?
:lol: :lol: :lol:bigote
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Anyone who doesnt realsie the dangers associated with the BNP is a fool.
Then myself and a million others are fools then.
A bit like voting for Brown then?
:lol: :lol: :lol:bigote
Bovvered?
:wave:Have any of you BNP supporters actually looked properly at their manifesto? How on earth are they going to pay for all the things they've promised? Are you really OK with a VAT hike up to 50%? OK with the probability that the majority of the country will have to retrain in order to take the country back to being a manufacturing nation? With all the superstores we now basically depend on, closing? With their idea that a woman's place is in the home looking after the children and cooking and cleaning for her husband?
Just asking
Quote by kentswingers777
As I have previously stated....whilst I agree with some of their policies, certainly not all of them.
That is why I will not be voting for then on Thursday....Tory for me.
I really hate it when you have to say that every single fucking time,yet you spend your entire time defending them,make a stand for heaven sake..i dont think there is a single person here agreeing with all the policies of their parties!!
So what if they have Immigration has their top agenda..how to deal with it is what we want to hear,but reading from their thoughtless manicrapto every aspect of this society will be determined by the colour of skin,sexual orientation,religious affliation ecetera ecetera...
If you want to vote for BNP go ahead its your damn right!
Sex God
Quote by Angel Chat
Anyone who doesnt realsie the dangers associated with the BNP is a fool.
Then myself and a million others are fools then.
A bit like voting for Brown then?
:lol: :lol: :lol:bigote
Bovvered?
:wave:Have any of you BNP supporters actually looked properly at their manifesto? How on earth are they going to pay for all the things they've promised? Are you really OK with a VAT hike up to 50%? OK with the probability that the majority of the country will have to retrain in order to take the country back to being a manufacturing nation? With all the superstores we now basically depend on, closing? With their idea that a woman's place is in the home looking after the children and cooking and cleaning for her husband?
Just asking
if you read through you`ll find kenty isnt voting bnp nor am i as for benny i think he`s still undecided so cant speek for him
But of course as it was " apparently " a BNP thug who shouted it out, she had to post it.
Newspaper links eh Kaz? You seem to believe them when it suits!
Yet when others post similar links you get ya Google fingers working to find something that suits you.
As Staggs has said rightly ( and that don't often happen
).....you can find anything that suits on Google.
How about this one then Kaz?..
That took two seconds.....want some more?
Newspaper links eh Kaz? You seem to believe them when it suits!
Yet when others post similar links you get ya Google fingers working to find something that suits you.
As Staggs has said rightly ( and that don't often happen
).....you can find anything that suits on Google.How about this one then Kaz?..
That took two seconds.....want some more?
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
But of course as it was " apparently " a BNP thug who shouted it out, she had to post it.
Newspaper links eh Kaz? You seem to believe them when it suits!
It was not "apparently" a BNP thug, it was definitely one. I know the person who was
attacked, he is lovely guy and wouldn't (and didn't) provoke an attack.
What the article reported is true, during the assault, the attacker shouted pro-BNP slogans and as the person who was attacked is a rather high profile anti BNP campaigner it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the two are related.
Another campaigner was attached in Croyden a few weeks ago and told their throat would be cut if they did any anti-BNP work there. The same attacker (a well known local BNP member) has just been found guilty of assaulting people who were campaigning in last years elections.
Google all you want, but I know people who have been attacked. For exercising their right to campaign against something they don't believe in. The last time I checked, that was called democracy and it's obviously something the the BNP don't believe in. You only have to look at the blog of their deputy leader to see him ranting about the campaign against them and how they are unregulated and would be outlawed under the BNP.
Firstly, they are regulated and registered as a 3rd party organisation for campaigning in election purposes and as such limited to amounts that can be spent etc. and secondly what are the BNP afraid of? If you are so confident of your convictions stand by them and answer those who speak against you with debate and argument and not with your fists, threats and bans.
I see no mention of a few of the threads I put up....funny that.
I have heard of Labour councilors near to where I live being threatened by a resident for knocking on his door, purely because he hated Labour.
Because it was a BNP member is it any worse than any other incident? If not why is it that one story gets more attention than another?
They all fall into the same catagory of assault, or are only BNP members capable of doing that?
There is no excuse at all for an assault whether it be by a BNP member or a Tory member.
I have heard of Labour councilors near to where I live being threatened by a resident for knocking on his door, purely because he hated Labour.
Because it was a BNP member is it any worse than any other incident? If not why is it that one story gets more attention than another?
They all fall into the same catagory of assault, or are only BNP members capable of doing that?
There is no excuse at all for an assault whether it be by a BNP member or a Tory member.
Quote by mistress_sassy
But of course as it was " apparently " a BNP thug who shouted it out, she had to post it.
Newspaper links eh Kaz? You seem to believe them when it suits!
It was not "apparently" a BNP thug, it was definitely one. I know the person who was
attacked, he is lovely guy and wouldn't (and didn't) provoke an attack.
What the article reported is true, during the assault, the attacker shouted pro-BNP slogans and as the person who was attacked is a rather high profile anti BNP campaigner it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the two are related.
Another campaigner was attached in Croyden a few weeks ago and told their throat would be cut if they did any anti-BNP work there. The same attacker (a well known local BNP member) has just been found guilty of assaulting people who were campaigning in last years elections.
Google all you want, but I know people who have been attacked. For exercising their right to campaign against something they don't believe in. The last time I checked, that was called democracy and it's obviously something the the BNP don't believe in. You only have to look at the blog of their deputy leader to see him ranting about the campaign against them and how they are unregulated and would be outlawed under the BNP.
Firstly, they are regulated and registered as a 3rd party organisation for campaigning in election purposes and as such limited to amounts that can be spent etc. and secondly what are the BNP afraid of? If you are so confident of your convictions stand by them and answer those who speak against you with debate and argument and not with your fists, threats and bans.
Seeing as you are reporting on people being attacked by the BNP, what about this that was reported.
Does it fall into the same catagory? Also remember that Galloway is a supporter of this and was still faced with violence.
This is another example similar to the ones I have already posted. It seems all denominations can be violent, no matter what your political persuasion is.
Sex God
True there is no excuse, however as someone who works in 'politics'(and not for a political party!) I can tell you that it is far more common from BNP members/supporters. I literally hear about cases at least once a week and in times like now (elections/campaign periods) far more regularly.
We're also not talking about just threats but actual attacks. I am one of the many thousands who have volunteered my time to do anti BNP campaign stuff during this election and so far when I have been out campaigning this year I have been followed, had someone try to rip my car number plates off, abuse shouted at me and I have been surrounded by a group of men acting in an intimidating manner asking 'what I was up to'. Previously, my picture has been taken and put on websites and I am just a normal person campaigning along with thousands of others right across the UK. I am one of the lucky ones, I haven't been attacked or like a couple of people I know, my name, address and job details put up on websites for people to target me.
Also it depends on the nature of the threat. A local resident telling Labour to sod off and making some sort of threat is very different to being grabbed and pinned against a wall and told that you and family will have your throats cut if you persist in running your campaign in 'their' town. Maybe I will 'google it' to find out, but I have not heard of other political parties supporters doing things like that.
We're also not talking about just threats but actual attacks. I am one of the many thousands who have volunteered my time to do anti BNP campaign stuff during this election and so far when I have been out campaigning this year I have been followed, had someone try to rip my car number plates off, abuse shouted at me and I have been surrounded by a group of men acting in an intimidating manner asking 'what I was up to'. Previously, my picture has been taken and put on websites and I am just a normal person campaigning along with thousands of others right across the UK. I am one of the lucky ones, I haven't been attacked or like a couple of people I know, my name, address and job details put up on websites for people to target me.
Also it depends on the nature of the threat. A local resident telling Labour to sod off and making some sort of threat is very different to being grabbed and pinned against a wall and told that you and family will have your throats cut if you persist in running your campaign in 'their' town. Maybe I will 'google it' to find out, but I have not heard of other political parties supporters doing things like that.
Yes fair points Sassy but...
Out of nearly a million people who voted for them last year, surely a few incidents does not make them all thugs?
As I have proved and there is plenty of other evidence out there, it is not only the BNP who can be violent., or issue threats.
It was only recently that a group were banned as an organisation for their violent views.
I am in no way condoning any BNP member who resorts to this kind of act, there is no excuse whatsoever, but sometimes the media hype surrounding them makes them out to be the only ones who act this way.
Feelings are running high in many areas and anti campaigning surely is a dangerous thing to do?
Once again I make no excuses for any person who resorts to violence in the manner which has been mentioned here.
Out of nearly a million people who voted for them last year, surely a few incidents does not make them all thugs?
As I have proved and there is plenty of other evidence out there, it is not only the BNP who can be violent., or issue threats.
It was only recently that a group were banned as an organisation for their violent views.
I am in no way condoning any BNP member who resorts to this kind of act, there is no excuse whatsoever, but sometimes the media hype surrounding them makes them out to be the only ones who act this way.
Feelings are running high in many areas and anti campaigning surely is a dangerous thing to do?
Once again I make no excuses for any person who resorts to violence in the manner which has been mentioned here.
Sex God
Idle curiosity, you Rob,Kents...as non B.N.P. voters/supporters why do you always appear to be so keen to jump to their defence ?
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Idle curiosity, you Rob,Kents...as non B.N.P. voters/supporters why do you always appear to be so keen to jump to their defence ?
I will leave you to your " idle curiosity " I think.
Cannot speak for Rob on this, will see if he wants to answer.
But I only ever stated I would not vote for them.
But out of that same " idle curiosity " is either voting for them or supporting them, against any law at all?
As far as I am aware they are a perfectly legal party, and if one wanted too they could put an X on a legal paper at the polling station on Thursday.
Nothing illegal as far as I know. Unless you know different of course?
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Idle curiosity, you Rob,Kents...as non B.N.P. voters/supporters why do you always appear to be so keen to jump to their defence ?
I will leave you to your " idle curiosity " I think.
Cannot speak for Rob on this, will see if he wants to answer.
But I only ever stated I would not vote for them.
But out of that same " idle curiosity " is either voting for them or supporting them, against any law at all?
As far as I am aware they are a perfectly legal party, and if one wanted too they could put an X on a legal paper at the polling station on Thursday.
Nothing illegal as far as I know. Unless you know different of course?
Nothing illegal no...though I believe they often flirt with illegality and certain prominent members have I believe been arrested in the past.
It was/is a genuine question....I Don't rush to defend the Tories,Liberals or even the Labour parties because I don't support their views I'm genuinely curious as to why you who professes not to be a B.N.P. voter rush to defend them at every opportunity
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Yes fair points Sassy but...
Out of nearly a million people who voted for them last year, surely a few incidents does not make them all thugs?
As I have proved and there is plenty of other evidence out there, it is not only the BNP who can be violent., or issue threats.
It was only recently that a group were banned as an organisation for their violent views.
I am in no way condoning any BNP member who resorts to this kind of act, there is no excuse whatsoever, but sometimes the media hype surrounding them makes them out to be the only ones who act this way.
Feelings are running high in many areas and anti campaigning surely is a dangerous thing to do?
Once again I make no excuses for any person who resorts to violence in the manner which has been mentioned here.
I think the vast majority who voted BNP are not thugs, they are not fascists and many will not even be racist. They vote BNP as a protest to the mainstream parties or based upon single issues such as local housing, jobs or immigration.
I would even go as far as to say, that in my opinion and experience many of the members/supporters are not these things either, but there is a hard core centre that is based on hatred, fascist beliefs and threats, bullying and intimidation.
As I have already said previously, I hear and see far more instances of violence and threats from BNP supporters than from those from other parties. I am not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, but in comparative terms there are a higher proportion of instances of BNP attacks particularly highlighted when comparing the size of their party to the mainstream ones.
Anti campaigning may be dangerous thing, but ask yourself why? If I were campaigning against the Tories or Labour would that be a dangerous thing to do? Would I really face the attacks and abuse that I already have? It's only dangerous because of who I am campaigning against.
Also, it is my democratic right to campaign for and/or against any party I choose. Why should I not do so? Feeling may be running high, but since when should that matter? Surely if the BNP were the respectable party they like to portray themselves as they would debate those who stand against them rather than attack.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Think I have more than answered your question.
I think Griffin was arrested and faced I think two trials, but as far as I know he was never found guilty.
Will wait and see if any MP's are found guilty of theft or fraud over their expenses.
It was his statements denying the Holocaust in The Rune that led to Griffin's conviction in 1998 of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. He was given a nine-month prison sentence suspended for two years.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Think I have more than answered your question.
I think Griffin was arrested and faced I think two trials, but as far as I know he was never found guilty.
Will wait and see if any MP's are found guilty of theft or fraud over their expenses.
Not sure I see the connection.........
Quote by mistress_sassy
Yes fair points Sassy but...
Out of nearly a million people who voted for them last year, surely a few incidents does not make them all thugs?
As I have proved and there is plenty of other evidence out there, it is not only the BNP who can be violent., or issue threats.
It was only recently that a group were banned as an organisation for their violent views.
I am in no way condoning any BNP member who resorts to this kind of act, there is no excuse whatsoever, but sometimes the media hype surrounding them makes them out to be the only ones who act this way.
Feelings are running high in many areas and anti campaigning surely is a dangerous thing to do?
Once again I make no excuses for any person who resorts to violence in the manner which has been mentioned here.
I think the vast majority who voted BNP are not thugs, they are not fascists and many will not even be racist. They vote BNP as a protest to the mainstream parties or based upon single issues such as local housing, jobs or immigration.
I would even go as far as to say, that in my opinion and experience many of the members/supporters are not these things either, but there is a hard core centre that is based on hatred, fascist beliefs and threats, bullying and intimidation.
As I have already said previously, I hear and see far more instances of violence and threats from BNP supporters than from those from other parties. I am not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, but in comparative terms there are a higher proportion of instances of BNP attacks particularly highlighted when comparing the size of their party to the mainstream ones.
Anti campaigning may be dangerous thing, but ask yourself why? If I were campaigning against the Tories or Labour would that be a dangerous thing to do? Would I really face the attacks and abuse that I already have? It's only dangerous because of who I am campaigning against.
Also, it is my democratic right to campaign for and/or against any party I choose. Why should I not do so? Feeling may be running high, but since when should that matter? Surely if the BNP were the respectable party they like to portray themselves as they would debate those who stand against them rather than attack.
Did you see Question time when Griffin was on it?
I think it was the other panel members and the audience that were doing the attacking and certainly not the debating.
It was a circus and the BBC who are supposed to be impartial, who set the trap for Griffin.
I think a lot of people saw through that.
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Idle curiosity, you Rob,Kents...as non B.N.P. voters/supporters why do you always appear to be so keen to jump to their defence ?
sorry lee i don`t always jump to the deffence of the bnp
i gotta ask with all so called hate for the bnp on here why has anyone bothered to look at their manifesto or broadcast i know i have done neither and would not be interested in looking
they have nothing of interest for me but all the anti bnp seem to be interested
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as posted by me
but i must say there are issues they approach i like (non rasist i`ll add )as do other parties i dont like what the bnp stands for so they wouldn`t get my vote
but as ben would say there not all bad or rotten and no worse at times than this by two of the big parties
i did see on the news last night there is police investigation to more of this in no less than 5 london boroughs
my honest veiw is there are more important things to debate and this is only a popular thread due to the amount of people who wish to post inc yourself
so should i see nick griffin getting attacked by a group would i stand in ...........NO
but then i wouldn`t for brown ,blair or a few others
i prefer straight talking people like boris johnson best mayor the city`s had and we need a few more like him
in essence there are things the the bnp approach that others are afraid to for fear of the politically correct bullshit we have become wrapped up in but they still wont get my vote id rather vote the monster raving looney party (the green party as its called today )and that's saying something
i did make my veiw's very clear in the thread "what going to get your x"
i don`t like being force feed i never have and when certain things are forced upon me then i ether spew it out over the force feeder or i stand up and ram the spoon back down their throat
i dont belive our country is changing for the better and that`s the key and it certainly does not mean im bnp or racist the fact that cameron is going to make work dodgers go back to work then my cross is nearer his box than ever
i find peoples attitude to brush important things under the carpet and use racism as the best form of defense when racism is not the issue very poor indeed
so thats what i think do you still think im bnp you can be honest
Quote by Lizaleanrob
Idle curiosity, you Rob,Kents...as non B.N.P. voters/supporters why do you always appear to be so keen to jump to their defence ?
sorry lee i don`t always jump to the deffence of the bnp
i gotta ask with all so called hate for the bnp on here why has anyone bothered to look at their manifesto or broadcast i know i have done neither and would not be interested in looking
they have nothing of interest for me but all the anti bnp seem to be interested
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as posted by me
but i must say there are issues they approach i like (non rasist i`ll add )as do other parties i dont like what the bnp stands for so they wouldn`t get my vote
but as ben would say there not all bad or rotten and no worse at times than this by two of the big parties
i did see on the news last night there is police investigation to more of this in no less than 5 london boroughs
my honest veiw is there are more important things to debate and this is only a popular thread due to the amount of people who wish to post inc yourself
so should i see nick griffin getting attacked by a group would i stand in ...........NO
but then i wouldn`t for brown ,blair or a few others
i prefer straight talking people like boris johnson best mayor the city`s had and we need a few more like him
in essence there are things the the bnp approach that others are afraid to for fear of the politically correct bullshit we have become wrapped up in but they still wont get my vote id rather vote the monster raving looney party (the green party as its called today )and that's saying something
i did make my veiw's very clear in the thread "what going to get your x"
i don`t like being force feed i never have and when certain things are forced upon me then i ether spew it out over the force feeder or i stand up and ram the spoon back down their throat
i dont belive our country is changing for the better and that`s the key and it certainly does not mean im bnp or racist the fact that cameron is going to make work dodgers go back to work then my cross is nearer his box than ever
i find peoples attitude to brush important things under the carpet and use racism as the best form of defense when racism is not the issue very poor indeed
so thats what i think do you still think im bnp you can be honest
:thumbup:
Quote by Lizaleanrob
so thats what i think do you still think im bnp you can be honest
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:He was refering to Rob_Hood who has already stated in this thread (or some thread I read anyway) he is a BNP supporter. To be honest I have always shortened your username, in my head, to Liz and not Rob.........this conjures up some view in my mind now
Dave_Notts
Quote by kentswingers777
i find peoples attitude to brush important things under the carpet and use racism as the best form of defense when racism is not the issue very poor indeed
:thumbup:
Unfortunately some people do not know the meaning of the word.......so it is cried wolf at and on the flip side it is used by people to attack those minorities under the guise of "free speech". There is a balance to be struck, but man being man, they sometimes fall outside of the acceptable.
Dave_Notts
