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Quote by Bluefish2009
How ever you word it Star, this protest has lasted longer than any hunt protest :thumbup:
What about the disruption to the local police and residents that actually start days before a Occupy protest, especially if demonstrators are involved. do you seriusly beleeve that this is all planned on a saturday morning a few hours before the ocupy protest?
wink

if i did not know better mr bluefish i would say you was taking the pisssss out of my spelling. i am sure it is just a mistake on your part as i thought you was a bit better than that. dunno
a disruption is annoying wether it is an hour or a week, and a hunt is certainly more than an hours worth of disruption.
Quote by starlightcouple

It is one thing to disrupt for a few hours but very selfish when you disrupt others live for many days or weeks

rubbish bluefish.
you are only saying that because you beleeve that your hunts only disrupt for a few hours. What about the disruption to the local police and residents that actually start days before a hunt, especially if demonstrators are involved. do you seriusly beleeve that this is all planned on a saturday morning a few hours before the hunt?
to the ones being disrupted a few hours can be a living fucking nightmare bluefish. at st pauls it is not residents that are being disrupted and I beleeve that is worse to be a resident and to be disrupted.
disruption creates anger and resentment wether it be for an hour or a week. :notes:
I think your argument is quite flawed to be honest star. There are lots of people who live/work in London around St. Pauls who are demonstrably (no pun intended) affected by the protest there - including those who wish to worship or visit and admire this wonderful creation by Sir Christopher Wren.
In the countryside, fewer people live and work and will be affected by a bunch of the unwashed waving banners. The Hunt itself is a moving activity once it gets under way and the activists will want to make sure that they can capture any illegal activity on camera in the open countryside so will move along with it. It doesn't require much policing; no riot squads needed usually just the odd Ambulance to take the unwashed to hospital when they get kicked by a horse.
Quote by starlightcouple

How ever you word it Star, this protest has lasted longer than any hunt protest :thumbup:
What about the disruption to the local police and residents that actually start days before a Occupy protest, especially if demonstrators are involved. do you seriusly beleeve that this is all planned on a saturday morning a few hours before the ocupy protest?
wink

if i did not know better mr bluefish i would say you was taking the pisssss out of my spelling. i am sure it is just a mistake on your part as i thought you was a bit better than that. dunno
a disruption is annoying wether it is an hour or a week, and a hunt is certainly more than an hours worth of disruption.
You flatter yourself too much, if I made a spelling mistake, it was exactly that :thumbup: After a couple of beers, I forget to use the spell check :dunno:
Would you rather be annoyed for a few hours or a few weeks? I know my answer, and if your truthfull, your as well :wink:
Quote by GnV

It is one thing to disrupt for a few hours but very selfish when you disrupt others live for many days or weeks

rubbish bluefish.
you are only saying that because you beleeve that your hunts only disrupt for a few hours. What about the disruption to the local police and residents that actually start days before a hunt, especially if demonstrators are involved. do you seriusly beleeve that this is all planned on a saturday morning a few hours before the hunt?
to the ones being disrupted a few hours can be a living fucking nightmare bluefish. at st pauls it is not residents that are being disrupted and I beleeve that is worse to be a resident and to be disrupted.
disruption creates anger and resentment wether it be for an hour or a week. :notes:
I think your argument is quite flawed to be honest star. There are lots of people who live/work in London around St. Pauls who are demonstrably (no pun intended) affected by the protest there - including those who wish to worship or visit and admire this wonderful creation by Sir Christopher Wren.
In the countryside, fewer people live and work and will be affected by a bunch of the unwashedwaving banners. The Hunt itself is a moving activity once it gets under way and the activists will want to make sure that they can capture any illegal activity on camera in the open countryside so will move along with it. It doesn't require much policing; no riot squads needed usually just the odd Ambulance to take the unwashed to hospital when they get kicked by a horse.
You clearly did not know my mum, washed and clean pants for such an occation, you never know :jagsatwork:
Quote by Bluefish2009
You clearly did not know my mum, washed and clean pants for such an occation, you never know :jagsatwork:

Absolutely essential... the only way she'd know if you had had a little accident :grin:
Quote by starlightcouple
a hunt is certainly more than an hours worth of disruption.

A hunt is unlikely to disrupt anything, apart from farm life, and that is the reason they are their.
Hunt followers may cause a little disruption, but but nothing on the scale of say, football fans!
Quote by GnV
You clearly did not know my mum, washed and clean pants for such an occation, you never know :jagsatwork:

Absolutely essential... the only way she'd know if you had had a little accident :grin:
I thought that it had been agreed, that would never be mentioned again :sad:
The Dean of St Paul's Cathedral Graeme Knowles has resigned, saying he felt his position had become untenable. (This follows Dr Giles Fraser, who stepped down as the canon chancellor last Thursday)
However the news comes as the City of London authorities ordered protesters outside St Paul's to remove their tents and equipment.
They have been ordered to clear the area within the next 48 hours, however the City of London Corporation has insisted that the protesters themselves are not being asked to leave the area.
"I totally agree with the right to protest, but when it disrupts people's lives it must stop". An oft-repeated comment on here, on the BBC and other places.
And it's utter crap. If a protest doesn't inconvenience anyone it will NEVER be reported, heard about, discussed or anything. Look at what was reported - was it the fact that people were prtesting against corruption and pandering to the bankers, or was it that people were getting in the way at a public place? The subject of the protests was barely mentioned, and only as a side-comment while people got all purple-faced about 'dole-scrounging layabouts' (or was it over-paid executives playing at protest - I forget, pmsl) cluttering up a 'national monument' (or CofE cash-cow if you prefer).
No-one has been hurt, or even more than inconvenienced, but hundreds, and I believe thousands, of people have talked about them, what they are protesting about (even if they are disagreeing they are still talking, which is a Good Thing).
Quote by foxylady2209
"I totally agree with the right to protest, but when it disrupts people's lives it must stop". An oft-repeated comment on here, on the BBC and other places.
And it's utter crap. If a protest doesn't inconvenience anyone it will NEVER be reported, heard about, discussed or anything. Look at what was reported - was it the fact that people were prtesting against corruption and pandering to the bankers, or was it that people were getting in the way at a public place? The subject of the protests was barely mentioned, and only as a side-comment while people got all purple-faced about 'dole-scrounging layabouts' (or was it over-paid executives playing at protest - I forget, pmsl) cluttering up a 'national monument' (or CofE cash-cow if you prefer).
No-one has been hurt, or even more than inconvenienced, but hundreds, and I believe thousands, of people have talked about them, what they are protesting about (even if they are disagreeing they are still talking, which is a Good Thing).

Crap in your view, not in mine.
I personally believe that a large protest that lasts only a few hours, maybe a day, is more efficient. I feel the best way to make protest work is to get your message across to as many as possible while upsetting as few of the general public as is possible. This way the reporters talk about what the protest is about, rather than silly side issues.
I feel that the more you inconvenience those trying to go about their daily routine, the more likely you are to loose public support for your cause Also the more ammunition you give your opponents.
i wonder what jesus would have done in the place of worship ? would he have thrown the bankers (trustees) out of the city ? or would he throw out the debt slaves ? diversions of health and safety, well heeled do gooders or not, lazy bastards and dale farm activists or not is deliberately, like the servile mainstream media does, avoiding the issues being raised by whoever the protesters are.
i thought, obviously mistakenly, that foxy initiated the thread for discussion about the issues being raised by the "occupy movement" ? perhaps i got it wrong again as i dont know what i'm talking about.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
perhaps i got it wrong again as i dont know what i'm talking about.

Once again, I find myself agreeing with you... :lol2:
Quote by Bluefish2009
Will the UK follow their lead?

no blue as the police would be terrified to act like that, for fear of usetting peeple, or terrified of getting arrested for pushing over a member of the public and having to face a assault charge.loon
Quote by starlightcouple
Will the UK follow their lead?

no blue as the police would be terrified to act like that, for fear of usetting peeple, or terrified of getting arrested forpushing over a member of the public and having to face a assault charge.loon
What like someone in possession of an offensive wheelchair or drinking orange juice in a manner likely to endanger public safety ??
Quote by Bluefish2009
Will the UK follow their lead?

It would seem the City of London Corporation has been encouraged by the action in New York

Now I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the timing seems more than a little coincidental .
Nice to see that they were the sort of people to tidy up behind them selves!!
Shortly after the formal eviction of a lone protester at the site, a fleet of refuse vehicles accompanied by a platoon of waste collectors in orange overalls moved on to College Green.
Initially, they were searching the site for signs of drugs and needles after reports that the camp had been used for drug taking.
Then the clean-up team turned their attention to removing piles of rubbish - wooden pallets, tyres and rugs - that had been left littering the area.
Their work also involved removing the portable toilets that the city council had installed and shovelling away debris that had been left behind in the mud where the camp had once been.
About a third of College Green has been left looking like a mud bath.

now they are all off back to dale farm!!!
The next major item on the agenda is the ultimatum the group has issued to McDonalds about the company's work experience scheme, which Occupy says exploits unemployed people. The group says it will occupy one of the company's stores in central London if it does not withdraw from the government scheme by 6pm on Wednesday, 29 February. It follows a similar protest on London's Oxford Street on Saturday, in which Right To Work protesters successfully closed down a McDonalds