The Special One - Part 2 | Swinging Heaven

3 Jun 2013

So he is back - it is official.
Can't help but think that like all relationships that break up - the underlying differences never go away second time around. But hey - Mr Abramovitch doesn't seem to have made many bad decisions. Not to mention that The Premier League is also much more entertaining with Mr Mourinho around.
Get ready for the soap opera - season 2013/14.

3 Jun 2013

Quote by Too Hot
So he is back - it is official.
Can't help but think that like all relationships that break up - the underlying differences never go away second time around. But hey - Mr Abramovitch doesn't seem to have made many bad decisions. Not to mention that The Premier League is also much more entertaining with Mr Mourinho around.
Get ready for the soap opera - season 2013/14.

you might wanna go and have a last look at the old traford trophy cabinet :giveup:
it could be a while wink

I'm no Chelsea supporter but you cant take away the mans brilliance as a football manager
probably the best in the world at the moment
and i do believe his record against other top teams and managers speaks for it self
and this particular set of stats is interesting

and with stories such as this appearing all over Spain and Portugal you cant help think there is no smoke without fire

i really look forward to his charismatic return

3 Jun 2013

I think the post is about Mourinho and Chelski rather than Manchester United.
It has been interesting to listen to the more intelligent Blues supporters on Talk Sport today. Not all were behind the move with many pointing out the bad feeling in the dressing room after he left, the bad feeling in the Real Madrid dressing room today and a simple observation that he has played this suitor game so well because he had nowhere else to go other than Chelski.
Don't get me wrong, I find him very entertaining and I am glad he is back but I think some of their supporters may be looking back with rosé tinted spectacles.

3 Jun 2013

Forget all that.....Kevin Jacket signed a one year rolling contract at the Wolves.....now there is a story....he is our very own special one...lol

4 Jun 2013

Quote by Too Hot
I think the post is about Mourinho and Chelski rather than Manchester United.
It has been interesting to listen to the more intelligent Blues supporters on Talk Sport today. Not all were behind the move with many pointing out the bad feeling in the dressing room after he left, the bad feeling in the Real Madrid dressing room today and a simple observation that he has played this suitor game so well because he had nowhere else to go other than Chelski.
Don't get me wrong, I find him very entertaining and I am glad he is back but I think some of their supporters may be looking back with rosé tinted spectacles.

did you write that or did you ask saurez what he thought :laughabove::laughabove:
you only had to see the man meet players he had coached previously to know how much he is respected and revered, you also never heard the same sort of story's that used to come out of old trafford regards dressing room bust ups
i think anyone with intelligence would want him on their side rather than against, love him or hate him he is football's greatest tactician in modern times
given his shortish time so far in management he has an unrivaled record. iirc he has never finished a season outside the top 2 and with that in mind the man could go to any club in the world with open arms.
to be honest this is probably the the worst possible result for any of the top premiership teams other than chelsea of course wink

4 Jun 2013

Quote by Lizaleanrob
you only had to see the man meet players he had coached previously to know how much he is respected and revered, you also never heard the same sort of story's that used to come out of old trafford regards dressing room bust ups
i think anyone with intelligence would want him on their side rather than against, love him or hate him he is football's greatest tactician in modern times
given his shortish time so far in management he has an unrivaled record. iirc he has never finished a season outside the top 2 and with that in mind the man could go to any club in the world with open arms.
to be honest this is probably the the worst possible result for any of the top premiership teams other than chelsea of course

Rob as a " proper " Chelsea supporter ( you know like someone who actually watches them live )I have personally not heard a single Chelsea supporter who is against his return. Yes I heard the few people on Talk Sport stating their opinions but I would love to know when any of those people either saw Chelsea live, or brought any kind of merchandise, I would guess it would be a no to both questions. Supporters? Pffftttt.
I am also sure Rob that as Ferguson and Jose are " mates " I am sure the subject of Jose Mourinho would have been mentioned at Director level at Old Trafford. Now let me see.....Jose Mourinho versus David Moyes, not really a contest really. Moyes is on a hiding to nothing whereas Jose has nothing to prove at all. I am sure Utd would have been a lot more successful under Jose than they will be under Moyes, of that I am sure of.
Of course other so called supporters will be saying negative things, but only Man Utd have a right to say anything as they are the only other club to have won anything of note. Yes Man City won the League last year with the last kick of the season and a far better team than Utd on paper. This year at the present time NO manager. Arsenal well no trophies for 8 seasons counts them out of anything. Spurs always full of promise but deliver nothing. So we have Chelsea and Utd. Utd have just released a manager the likes of we will not see again and appointed a manager with no winning credentials and time will tell. Now Jose has returned. A winner at every club he has been too. Broken records along the way, and I am not surprised Rob that other so called supporters are running scared. He never lost a home Premier League game at Chelsea. The longest ever undefeated run by an English club at the highest level. Liverpool held the record of something like 53 home matches undefeated, and Chelsea smashed that record to I think around 80 odd games.
There are plenty of green eyed monsters around Rob, and can I say that on this site, as I know how easily people can be offended and then press the report button.

4 Jun 2013

How can a gossip column from a news station more trashy than the Sun be taken as gospel. Mourinho was never destined for Manchester United because he is not of the mold required. If Moyes was second choice - why give him a 6 year contract? It does not make sense.
There is no comparison between Moyes and Mourinho - one is loud, brash, divisive and unable to stay at any club for very long and so was only given a four year contract. The other is the Manager of the most famous football club in the world and was given a six year contract.
The Premier League will be interesting next season for sure because it will not be the two horse race that Mourinho had last time. This time he has Man City, Spurs and an improving Arsenal to contend with. I predict very spiky London Derby's next season.

4 Jun 2013

Quote by Too Hot
How can a gossip column from a news station more trashy than the Sun be taken as gospel. Mourinho was never destined for Manchester United because he is not of the mold required. If Moyes was second choice - why give him a 6 year contract? It does not make sense.
There is no comparison between Moyes and Mourinho - one is loud, brash, divisive and unable to stay at any club for very long and so was only given a four year contract. The other is the Manager of the most famous football club in the world and was given a six year contract.
The Premier League will be interesting next season for sure because it will not be the two horse race that Mourinho had last time. This time he has Man City, Spurs and an improving Arsenal to contend with. I predict very spiky London Derby's next season.

And a contract means what now days?? managers are sacked for fun in the premiership regardless of contract.
unfortunately moyes is not in the same mold as Ferguson, unlike the likes of pep and Jose, moyes has yet to prove his credentials as a top flight manager ,keeping Rooney will be one of those.(good luck with that one)
you would have to be either stupid or no nothing of football to dismiss Jose as the probable favorite to lift the premiership trophy at the end of next season and i think you 'll find the bookies agree, moyes is a good manager but questions will be asked if he doesn't deliver, and worse excuses will be made on his behalf by the sheep supporters.
was it not you that said in a recent thread about getting RBS back up and running again. they needed to pay the wages and bring in the big names (the same is to be said about football and moyes is NOT a big name)
it was also announced that after doing the treble bayern Munich have now become the most merchantable club in the world,thus knocking man utd of their worlds biggest club pedestal in the financial stakes
i think that a Manchester club will be in the top two next year but like the days of the week the name will end in a y wink

as pelligrini is not to be underestimated
spurs will struggle to hold onto bale and just don't show that killer instinct to make it into the top four, arsenal will be happy for champions league football as ever, but need to invest in some prolific players to do any better than they have for the last few years.
without ferguson or a big name manager there is not enough to bring in the big names that manchester utd require, the draw of clubs like bayern, barcelona,real madrid,chelsea monaco ect ect will starve utd of the much needed cream needed for the big stage

4 Jun 2013

Ha ha... Good effort..

5 Jun 2013

news this morning is a deal has been agreed for Nani blink

Hernandez and Rooney all wanting away could this be the start of the exodus.
with a return to France on the cards for Patrice evra that could finish the job
if this little lot goes moyes truly would become the special one........for all the wrong reasons

:rotflmao:
no worries i think he's got baines from everton

17 Jul 2013

jeez what a great job of man management moyes is doing
nothing like making your players feel wanted if Rooney didn't want away he does now
chump of the week award goes to moyes loon

17 Jul 2013

Quote by Lizaleanrob
jeez what a great job of man management moyes is doing
nothing like making your players feel wanted if Rooney didn't want away he does now
chump of the week award goes to moyes

18 Jul 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
jeez what a great job of man management moyes is doing
nothing like making your players feel wanted if Rooney didn't want away he does now
chump of the week award goes to moyes

Can you really expect a boy to fill a mans shoes Rob? Moyes will find very early on that he is way out of his depth. Fergie will of course be behind the scenes to " guide " Moyes, but I think at Man Utd Moyes will find it a bit different to his days at Everton.
I just hope that Rooney does not go to Chelsea, as I think that will be another mistake along the lines of Torres if Chelsea do sign him. I don't rate Rooney and I certainly think he is a rubbish England player, worse than most.
i think for his own state of mind Rooney now needs to move star.
should he stay the doubts that moyes has now placed in Rooney's mind will become demons and Rooney will never play his best thinking he is second best/fiddle at mold traford
yank utd must now know that they will never get the best from Rooney and i think they know they have to sell the player now
buying Rooney will be a gamble for any club but if any manger can return Rooney to his best then JM can (this will also be a worry for yank utd)and with Rooney's vision JM knows he might just be the guy to bring Torres out of his drought like he linked up with Ronaldo (which was impressive )
you have to give moyes credit on this one, his statement to the press has been the most spectacular own goal of the summer, i though it would be at least Xmas before the cracks would show.
Ferguson's new desk must have some lovely forehead marks in it already ( banghead

sort of marks) lol

18 Jul 2013

Wayne Rooney is a petulant spoilt brat and his 2010 outburst about United not showing ambition was matched the following year with the arrival of RVP. Seems like Wayne was not really questioning Uniteds ambition after all. He would probably be well suited in the company of the other over-paid spoilt brats at Chelski. He just needs to keep Colleen away from John Terry or it maight be her playing away next time, not Wayne.
The "gaffe" by David Moyes is the same line of gaffes that have been spun out of Old Trafford since the end of the season. No love for Wayne, no chance of his contract being renewed, but he is not for sale. It is simply about forcing Rooneys hand to ask for a transfer. Being the money grabbing soft lad that he is, he does not want to do that as it would mean losing all of his loyalty bonuses for the remaining two years of his contract.
United could not really afford to lose a Wayne Rooney who is at the top of his game, but his days for United are surely over now and he only has himself to blame for the current situation. I just hope that he can be replaced with a couple of really top quality attacking midfielders which is what United need more than a soft arsed primadonna.

18 Jul 2013

Quote by Too Hot
Wayne Rooney is a petulant spoilt brat and his 2010 outburst about United not showing ambition was matched the following year with the arrival of RVP. Seems like Wayne was not really questioning Uniteds ambition after all. He would probably be well suited in the company of the other over-paid spoilt brats at Chelski. He just needs to keep Colleen away from John Terry or it maight be her playing away next time, not Wayne.
The "gaffe" by David Moyes is the same line of gaffes that have been spun out of Old Trafford since the end of the season. No love for Wayne, no chance of his contract being renewed, but he is not for sale. It is simply about forcing Rooneys hand to ask for a transfer. Being the money grabbing soft lad that he is, he does not want to do that as it would mean losing all of his loyalty bonuses for the remaining two years of his contract.
United could not really afford to lose a Wayne Rooney who is at the top of his game, but his days for United are surely over now and he only has himself to blame for the current situation. I just hope that he can be replaced with a couple of really top quality attacking midfielders which is what United need more than a soft arsed primadonna.

so moyes thinks himself a bit of a mind games king like Ferguson does he rolleyes

i think the treatment of Rooney stinks why say hes not for sale then say hes second fiddle? utd have never been frightened to sell anyone and equally big names! so why not just sell Rooney? i think your answer is right there! if Rooney goes to chelski JM knows Ronaldo would probably switch his preferred destination in the premiership in favor of linking up with his old sparing partner when he leaves Madrid, and Jm is not the only one who knows it :roll:
at his first big task at yank utd moyes has fallen like a donkey at the national, god help any hard jobs come along like setting his sights on a world class player, probably then saying rvp is getting passed it.
in 2010 Rooney was enjoying some of the best football seen in the premiership with him and ronaldo sharing the goals for fun, and when ronaldo was sold you can understand that Rooney's frustration would be vented in the way it was
petulant no frustrated? dam right he was, his scoring buddy was whipped away and replaced with a real premadonna, you cant help but wonder why some one that is so passionate about the way he plays football and a desire to make a difference has stuck it out for so long at such a place really
your reply is that of a disgruntled fan knowing that a good player could be sold to your biggest rivals,also knowing that the man in charge there has all the credentials to turn him into something a little special, wink

the sooner JM gets him the better for English football i see it as an England fan
i just had a little tote that Ferguson will be interim manger of yank utd by January
in edit:
this mornings news is moyes says hes not for sale
REALLY !!!!
try fucking backing your players if you wish to keep them then
yank utd are fast becoming a laughing stock over this fiasco, what next moyes says he needs Rooney to head his reserve squad?
if utd keep Rooney he,s is never gonna give 100% or sign a new contract now and who the fuck could blame him

19 Jul 2013

I want to know who are these " over paid spoilt brats " that are at Chelsea Rob? Over paid is a matter of opinion and brats well.......
I think there are a few other clubs that have just as many brats and certainly over paid than Chelsea do, but then anyone who refers to Chelsea as " Chelski " shows their true colours right from the off Rob.

19 Jul 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
I want to know who are these " over paid spoilt brats " that are at Chelsea Rob? Over paid is a matter of opinion and brats well.......
I think there are a few other clubs that have just as many brats and certainly over paid than Chelsea do, but then anyone who refers to Chelsea as " Chelski " shows their true colours right from the off Rob.

not being a Chelsea/ski supporter nor a man/yank utd supporter i find this whole episode despicable, moyes obviously has an axe to grind with Rooney but isn't man enough to have it out with him.
who knows maybe he is still sore at fact Rooney sued him shortly after he left Everton.
what is clear is that in any other chosen profession Rooney would have a case for destructive dismissal!
mind games? more like school playground stuff, and lets face it with public behavior such as this and the message it gives, the big name stars will swerve utd in fear of being publicly humiliated for moyes amusement
the least the man can do now if he really wants to keep him is publicly apologise to Rooney
its funny Rooney was one of the few footballers that would play for a tenner a week if it meant he played football every week claimed the utd fans, now he's just a greedy spoilt bastard apparently !!

19 Jul 2013

Rob I think Moyes wants rid of Rooney but does not want to be seen as the bad guy by the Man Utd fans. There is obviously bad blood between the two still, and it was highly reported at the time that Rooney and Moyes had fallen out just before Rooney left Everton. I think Rooney certainly looks the type that can hold a grudge.
Moyes has enough on his shoulders without a nobody player giving him extra aggro that he could well do without. I certainly do not want him at my club Rob, but sadly these are the games they must play nowadays to seal the deal so to speak. I believe it is inevitable Rooney will leave Utd and I believe it will be much sooner than later. JM is playing the usual minds games with the player but I think Moyes wants shot of Rooney, as having him at Old Trafford can only make things worse for him.

19 Jul 2013

forget the arguments...forget the money....fact is Rooneys best days are gone. He started playing first team football at 17.....he is now burnt out. Man United would do well to cash in with a few quid whilst they are still able.

19 Jul 2013

Quote by deancannock
forget the arguments...forget the money....fact is Rooneys best days are gone. He started playing first team football at 17.....he is now burnt out. Man United would do well to cash in with a few quid whilst they are still able.

Very true Dean but Moyes is not going to come out of this the bad guy. There will be a way found where both will save face.

20 Jul 2013

Even the Croats are bored with this story now... Me too... Do us a favour Roo and ask for a transfer, then you can be shipped off and licked all over by the special one.
Croatia supports United...

20 Jul 2013

as a united season ticket holder....i think rooney has a right to put in a transfer request if he wants....but in the same breath we have the right to call him a fat overweight scouser.....
Last season he was OK....not his best season but not his worse either......I think the problem with him is that he wants to be No1 he always has said that. Unfortunately he has lost the pace and power that made him such a great talent when we bough him from Everton
In the modern age...4 4 2 doesn't work, and as a team united like to play with 2 wingers. this means rooney has to play in the hole (not the first time allegedly) ...this means to play the modern way sacrifices have to be made....
I personally would like to see us cash in and sell him abroad...

29 Sep 2013

quite ironic really the fact that Rooney is the only player at Utd who seems to be giving a 100% !!
sooo The honeymoon period is over and the faithful that so faithfully backed moyes as "THE ONLY" manager to take over from af have now started a moyes out campaign, this will be further fueled by moyes admission that Utd are not a champions league wining side being 5 world class players short?
meanwhile rival supporters are cruelly taunting the despondent Utd faithful with a moyes in campaign lol

(you gotta love football)

its doubtful that in their current form UTd would make next years champions league with the extra competition from spurs and arsenal,so catching up is not going to be as easy this year as previous ones.
utd now look like the team moyes left behind at everton and not looking actually capable of challenging for silverware
it just goes to prove what a fickle game football really is and even more how fickle the supporters are
#moyesin

29 Sep 2013

No knighthood on the cards then.... lol