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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
You really don't understand do you ?My socialism is not born of jealousy (I have non)but of compassion and the belief that everyone has a duty to protect and aid their fellow man.I understand that your measure of success is wealth and that having to give some of it back to help others pains you but you are and always will be wrong...the world does not judge your success only you can do that....and the only meaningful measure of success is your opinion of who you are not what you own
Oh and b.t.w......

I already give 40% back of it in tax ffs.
Nobody has a duty to do anything to their fellow man. You make your own luck in life.
I contribute via my taxes to help my fellow man, I do not see the need to contribute anymore than I already do, which btw is no doubt a lot more than the average person.
No fucker out there ever helped me....I have what I have through my own Capitalist hard work!
Quote by deancannock
I personally would say count success as being content and happy....and seeing your family being the same. Now lets be honest here a certain level of money helps in this achievment. But as the saying goes said " Enough is as good as a feast " .
I have changed jobs for more money, and not enjoyed what I was doing, and how I had to work. Was the fact i was earning more sucess ? I think not....I soon changed again, took a pay cut and enjoyed working again.
What we all should measure our success on, is quaility of life. No matter how much money you have, if you have a good quality of life, you are indeed a rich man. ( or woman)

Spot on, this is the most honest and well written post in this thread, in my humble opinion.
I would also add that if working hard makes one happy, fulfills your life, and a side effect of that is lots of money in the bank, then I see that as a bonus. We are all different and find different ways of enriching our lives.
Quote by kentswingers777
You really don't understand do you ?My socialism is not born of jealousy (I have non)but of compassion and the belief that everyone has a duty to protect and aid their fellow man.I understand that your measure of success is wealth and that having to give some of it back to help others pains you but you are and always will be wrong...the world does not judge your success only you can do that....and the only meaningful measure of success is your opinion of who you are not what you own
Oh and b.t.w......

I already give 40% back of it in tax ffs.
1: Nobody has a duty to do anything to their fellow man. You make your own luck in life.
I contribute via my taxes to help my fellow man, I do not see the need to contribute anymore than I already do, which btw is no doubt a lot more than the average person.
2: No fucker out there ever helped me....I have what I have through my own Capitalist hard work!
1:Just plain wrong
2:Just not true
Quote by kentswingers777
You really don't understand do you ?My socialism is not born of jealousy (I have non)but of compassion and the belief that everyone has a duty to protect and aid their fellow man.I understand that your measure of success is wealth and that having to give some of it back to help others pains you but you are and always will be wrong...the world does not judge your success only you can do that....and the only meaningful measure of success is your opinion of who you are not what you own
Oh and b.t.w......

I already give 40% back of it in tax ffs.
1: Nobody has a duty to do anything to their fellow man. You make your own luck in life.
I contribute via my taxes to help my fellow man, I do not see the need to contribute anymore than I already do, which btw is no doubt a lot more than the average person.
2: No fucker out there ever helped me....I have what I have through my own Capitalist hard work!
1:Just plain wrong
2:Just not true
Quote by kentswingers777
You really don't understand do you ?My socialism is not born of jealousy (I have non)but of compassion and the belief that everyone has a duty to protect and aid their fellow man.I understand that your measure of success is wealth and that having to give some of it back to help others pains you but you are and always will be wrong...the world does not judge your success only you can do that....and the only meaningful measure of success is your opinion of who you are not what you own
Oh and b.t.w......

I already give 40% back of it in tax ffs.
Nobody has a duty to do anything to their fellow man. You make your own luck in life.
I contribute via my taxes to help my fellow man, I do not see the need to contribute anymore than I already do, which btw is no doubt a lot more than the average person.
No fucker out there ever helped me....I have what I have through my own Capitalist hard work!
Your high tax bill is giving to your fellow man :thumbup:
I respect hard workers, how much they happen to earn of the back of that is not relevant
Quote by Bluefish2009
Your high tax bill is giving to your fellow man :thumbup:
I respect hard workers, how much they happen to earn of the back of that is not relevant

With respect Blue, of course it is relevant.
I accept that my money goes towards helping the poor souls with their bad backs, but it also goes towards many other good things....I have no problem with that.
But I pay a higher rate of tax and for some that is still not enough. The higher earners contribute hugely to the overall pot, take that away and the poor would be even feckling poorer.
But the Socialist attitudes think that the state should take even more from the higher earners....well they would say that. I bet the shoe would be on the other foot IF they were in the higher earning bracket, but of course they rarely are so come up with ludicrous suggestions on how to rob the richer people out there of their money.
I sometimes wonder where the fecking motivation comes from, for people running their own businesses.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Your high tax bill is giving to your fellow man :thumbup:
I respect hard workers, how much they happen to earn of the back of that is not relevant

With respect Blue, of course it is relevant.
I accept that my money goes towards helping the poor souls with their bad backs, but it also goes towards many other good things....I have no problem with that.
But I pay a higher rate of tax and for some that is still not enough. The higher earners contribute hugely to the overall pot, take that away and the poor would be even feckling poorer.
But the Socialist attitudes think that the state should take even more from the higher earners....well they would say that. I bet the shoe would be on the other foot IF they were in the higher earning bracket, but of course they rarely are so come up with ludicrous suggestions on how to rob the richer people out there of their money.
I sometimes wonder where the fecking motivation comes from, for people running their own businesses.
Quote by kentswingers777
Your high tax bill is giving to your fellow man :thumbup:
I respect hard workers, how much they happen to earn of the back of that is not relevant

With respect Blue, of course it is relevant.
I accept that my money goes towards helping the poor souls with their bad backs, but it also goes towards many other good things....I have no problem with that.
But I pay a higher rate of tax and for some that is still not enough. The higher earners contribute hugely to the overall pot, take that away and the poor would be even feckling poorer.
But the Socialist attitudes think that the state should take even more from the higher earners....well they would say that. I bet the shoe would be on the other foot IF they were in the higher earning bracket, but of course they rarely are so come up with ludicrous suggestions on how to rob the richer people out there of their money.
I sometimes wonder where the fecking motivation comes from, for people running their own businesses.
A man once said to me, "if you dreww all the money in the world in, and shared it out evenly in the morning, by bed time, some would have none left and some would have double what they started with"
Some are spenders and some are earners wink
And some are wasters.
As in waste money. wink
Quote by Bluefish2009
Being around my family is the best thing. Money is nothing when you have nearly lost the people you love.
To think money and items are that important shows how shallow the person can be. They are welcome to their sad lives.
Dave_Notts

I sgree with that Dave, money is not important, but if you dont have much money life can be very difficult and maybe not so rosie
If I have food,shelter,and my health,Why would I need money.....money isn't the problem
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Being around my family is the best thing. Money is nothing when you have nearly lost the people you love.
To think money and items are that important shows how shallow the person can be. They are welcome to their sad lives.
Dave_Notts

I sgree with that Dave, money is not important, but if you dont have much money life can be very difficult and maybe not so rosie
If I have food,shelter,and my health,Why would I need money.....money isn't the problem
I know you keep saying that Stags, and its a lovely sentiment, but I will keep saying this, to those who have very little money, life is not so Rosie. In this modern day and age life can be very difficult with no money
I do understand your point, but the world and society are not fixed,they are malleable,ask the press barons and the politicians ask the bankers and stockbrokers,things can be changed,the problem is not money but those who control it
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I do understand your point, but the world and society are not fixed,they are malleable,ask the press barons and the politicians ask the bankers and stockbrokers,things can be changed,the problem is not money but those who control it

Agreed
Quote by Bluefish2009
In this modern day and age life can be very difficult with no money

Not if you live in a cave and eat potatoes and grass all day.

I could walk out of the house with the above and live off the land very happily, but that would not educate the children, or prepare them for life in this modern world wink
What a complete nonsense thread. Seems the Swinging world in the UK anyway is full of social equality and equal rights. Unfortunately the whismsical ramblings of Social fantasists do not reflect the reality of hardship and financial difficulties for millions.
Work hard, earn your money and be an example to your kids of what a man needs to do to bring home food for the family. Fantasising about a socialist utopia is bollox and a bit 1960's passe in truth.
Tend to agree with Kenty here - there are people who naturally look for opportunity and there are those who resent the success and financial security of the opportunists. I was once told in the Army to avoid people with negative attitudes because they feed on your enthusiasm for living and are only satiated when they have brought you down to their level and sucked all the life and enthusiasm out of you.
Rise above it. Upwards and ownwards !!
Quote by Too Hot
What a complete nonsense thread. Seems the Swinging world in the UK anyway is full of social equality and equal rights. Unfortunately the whismsical ramblings of Social fantasists do not reflect the reality of hardship and financial difficulties for millions.
Work hard, earn your money and be an example to your kids of what a man needs to do to bring home food for the family. Fantasising about a socialist utopia is bollox and a bit 1960's passe in truth.
Tend to agree with Kenty here - there are people who naturally look for opportunity and there are those who resent the success and financial security of the opportunists. I was once told in the Army to avoid people with negative attitudes because they feed on your enthusiasm for living and are only satiated when they have brought you down to their level and sucked all the life and enthusiasm out of you.
Rise above it. Upwards and ownwards !!

:thumbup::thumbup:
Quote by Too Hot
avoid people with negative attitudes because they feed on your enthusiasm for living and are only satiated when they have brought you down to their level and sucked all the life and enthusiasm out of you.

Couldn't agree more.....so, why so negative?
I think this artical has some relevance and found it very interesting myself.
heres another interesting one. wink
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What am I supposed to be looking for in those links?dunno
I used to think money was important but I have come to realise that material things dont matter.
We both work and earn enough to be content. This isnt as much as we used to earn but shit happens and circumstances out of our control left us £18k per year worse off. That is a lot of money to loose a year but we are only worse of financially!
An opportunity recently raised it head which would have been worth an extra £9k a year. I thought about it a lot but I realised that money is not my motivator. I love my job and the development opportunities that come with it. Even though at times I work long hours and travel way too much for my liking, I didn't want to leave.
We have a roof over our heads, our children are clean, fed, clothed and dont go without. My family is loved and our relationship is as strong as ever. My family are happy and although one of my children is disabled, they are all healthy. None of this costs more money than we have!!
A friend on mine is very successful. She earns 3 times more than we do put together, her house is bought and paid for, she has flash cars, expensive holidays, etc. At the age of 38, she is almost set for life, but she just keeps going. She is recently divorced, has not kids and is lonely! I am so proud of her for making herself the success that she is but I wouldnt swap lives and yet I know that she is jealous of mine.
For me, extra money would be nice but if it was essential, I would have took the other job.
More money would releive some stress at times but it wouldnt make me happier. There are a lot of grafters who work their 70+ hour weeks and make their 6 figure salary ... money is obviously their motivator. It's not mine.
Saying that, I wouldnt complain if I won the lottery!!
Quote by Funlovers2009
I used to think money was important but I have come to realise that material things dont matter.
We both work and earn enough to be content. This isnt as much as we used to earn but shit happens and circumstances out of our control left us £18k per year worse off. That is a lot of money to loose a year but we are only worse of financially!
An opportunity recently raised it head which would have been worth an extra £9k a year. I thought about it a lot but I realised that money is not my motivator. I love my job and the development opportunities that come with it. Even though at times I work long hours and travel way too much for my liking, I didn't want to leave.
We have a roof over our heads, our children are clean, fed, clothed and dont go without. My family is loved and our relationship is as strong as ever. My family are happy and although one of my children is disabled, they are all healthy. None of this costs more money than we have!!
A friend on mine is very successful. She earns 3 times more than we do put together, her house is bought and paid for, she has flash cars, expensive holidays, etc. At the age of 38, she is almost set for life, but she just keeps going. She is recently divorced, has not kids and is lonely! I am so proud of her for making herself the success that she is but I wouldnt swap lives and yet I know that she is jealous of mine.
For me, extra money would be nice but if it was essential, I would have took the other job.
More money would releive some stress at times but it wouldnt make me happier. There are a lot of grafters who work their 70+ hour weeks and make their 6 figure salary ... money is obviously their motivator. It's not mine.
Saying that, I wouldnt complain if I won the lottery!!

Respect worship Not just gorgeous and sexy but intelligent and sensible too! Lee is a lucky guy xxx
Ya cant argue with that fun or unc. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by kentswingers777
But I pay a higher rate of tax and for some that is still not enough. The higher earners contribute hugely to the overall pot, take that away and the poor would be even feckling poorer.
But the Socialist attitudes think that the state should take even more from the higher earners....well they would say that. I bet the shoe would be on the other foot IF they were in the higher earning bracket, but of course they rarely are so come up with ludicrous suggestions on how to rob the richer people out there of their money.
I sometimes wonder where the fecking motivation comes from, for people running their own businesses.

According to London’s Evening Standard, which obtained the figures, there are at least 400 UK-based people who either earn, or are capable of earning, £10 million a year.
All but 65 avoid paying income tax. Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Lord Oakeshott said: “These devastating figures prove that the richer you are, the less tax you pay in Brown’s Britain.”

You may well find (almost certainly) that the coalition are more socialist than the labour party was !
Quote by Bluefish2009
Being around my family is the best thing. Money is nothing when you have nearly lost the people you love.
To think money and items are that important shows how shallow the person can be. They are welcome to their sad lives.
Dave_Notts

I sgree with that Dave, money is not important, but if you dont have much money life can be very difficult and maybe not so rosie
If I have food,shelter,and my health,Why would I need money.....money isn't the problem
I know you keep saying that Stags, and its a lovely sentiment, but I will keep saying this,to those who have very little money, life is not so Rosie. In this modern day and age life can be very difficult with no money
there have been harder times each generation seems better off so i think were moving on bolt
Quote by Unc_Mids
I used to think money was important but I have come to realise that material things dont matter.
We both work and earn enough to be content. This isnt as much as we used to earn but shit happens and circumstances out of our control left us £18k per year worse off. That is a lot of money to loose a year but we are only worse of financially!
An opportunity recently raised it head which would have been worth an extra £9k a year. I thought about it a lot but I realised that money is not my motivator. I love my job and the development opportunities that come with it. Even though at times I work long hours and travel way too much for my liking, I didn't want to leave.
We have a roof over our heads, our children are clean, fed, clothed and dont go without. My family is loved and our relationship is as strong as ever. My family are happy and although one of my children is disabled, they are all healthy. None of this costs more money than we have!!
A friend on mine is very successful. She earns 3 times more than we do put together, her house is bought and paid for, she has flash cars, expensive holidays, etc. At the age of 38, she is almost set for life, but she just keeps going. She is recently divorced, has not kids and is lonely! I am so proud of her for making herself the success that she is but I wouldnt swap lives and yet I know that she is jealous of mine.
For me, extra money would be nice but if it was essential, I would have took the other job.
More money would releive some stress at times but it wouldnt make me happier. There are a lot of grafters who work their 70+ hour weeks and make their 6 figure salary ... money is obviously their motivator. It's not mine.
Saying that, I wouldnt complain if I won the lottery!!

Respect worship Not just gorgeous and sexy but intelligent and sensible too! Lee is a lucky guy xxx
Awwww bless ya Unc kiss but I would definately say that I'm the lucky one!!
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I fully understand that every one is different and find happiness in many ways. I applaud that. I, like many here, do not see money as the be all and end all. I do realise though in this modern age we can not live without it though.
The biggest thing that confuses me, here on this site, and probably throughout society is the dislike of those who have money. We are rightly chastised and shunned for forms of bigotry, yet if this is towards the rich, well off, posh, or gentry type it would appear to be totally except-able.
If these people have no need for money and wealth, why the problem with the people that do have it?