This artical is disturbing for every person, but also for parents in this age of a booze culture.
It is I think a fact that we are the booze capital of Europe, and Brits seem to take it to excess, especially the young.
Was this hospital right to deny this guy a liver transplant, on the grounds that they thought he would not stop drinking?
A tough dilema this one.
I remember George Best when he had one, and then his drinking continued, and I did think at the time they should never have given him that liver.
As transplants are expensive and obviously not enough donors to go round, I feel it is right that this guy was denied one, when there are others who would change their lives accordingly.
The hospitals out there are always short of donors and if they feel that it would go to waste should it be given to somebody else? If so where do we stop?
One of the worrying things about this artical is the age at which he started drinking, and how much he must have drunk to have ended up in this condition at 22.
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A really tough decision to make and I'd not like to be the one to have to but I think a fair decision.
I feel for his mother, no mother should have to bury there own. She will no doubt feel guilty, he might have died an adult but the beinging of the end for him was drinking so much and so very young.
I feel for his mother, no mother should have to bury there own. She will no doubt feel guilty, he might have died an adult but the beinging of the end for him was drinking so much and so very young.
im glad i dont have to make desisions like this.
i expect the people who do are glad there are strict rules and guidelines that thay have to follow.
on one hand i feel for the guy who was declined, he didnt have the chance to prove he could change,
or did he, im sure he was told long before 6 months of his death that he shouldnt keepdrinking at the levels he was?
whos fault is it that he was drining? he started at 13, was his mother providing the drink? there should be tough laws on selling or buying and supplying alcohol to under 18's.
now i understand that there is the concern he may have been given the transplant and then carried on drinking, but he could just as easy decided to take up riding a powerfull moterbike and be reckless, and die from an accident.
do we have the right to give a gift then dictate someones life ?
i know transplants involve a precious gift, and this situation could be considered a waste of that when someone else could benefit.
its just really sad that this young man had to die.
xx fem xx
i expect the people who do are glad there are strict rules and guidelines that thay have to follow.
on one hand i feel for the guy who was declined, he didnt have the chance to prove he could change,
or did he, im sure he was told long before 6 months of his death that he shouldnt keepdrinking at the levels he was?
whos fault is it that he was drining? he started at 13, was his mother providing the drink? there should be tough laws on selling or buying and supplying alcohol to under 18's.
now i understand that there is the concern he may have been given the transplant and then carried on drinking, but he could just as easy decided to take up riding a powerfull moterbike and be reckless, and die from an accident.
do we have the right to give a gift then dictate someones life ?
i know transplants involve a precious gift, and this situation could be considered a waste of that when someone else could benefit.
its just really sad that this young man had to die.
xx fem xx
Will/could this lead to smokers not being given new lungs or a new heart?
I cannot believe how this guy could have aquired that much drink, at such a young age. IF it was his Mother who was supplying it, then she must bear some of the responsibility for his early death.
There are all sorts of warnings about smoking aimed at existing smokers, and possible new ones. So maybe those same warnings should be targeted at drinkers too?
I cannot believe how this guy could have aquired that much drink, at such a young age. IF it was his Mother who was supplying it, then she must bear some of the responsibility for his early death.
There are all sorts of warnings about smoking aimed at existing smokers, and possible new ones. So maybe those same warnings should be targeted at drinkers too?
Sexlightened
My first opinion is that he doesn't deserve a second liver, considering what he did to the first. I personally know someone with a cancerous liver and it's probably going to kill her because she's a rare blood type, she's already been on the waiting list a long while, her brother's already donated a kidney and right now it looks like bone marrow might be next...
Then I think about it for a while, and in the end I have to admit noone can really know what someone would do after such a stay of execution. My mother got one, and I think she grew as a person before the cancer struck back with a vengeance. If my friend got one, I'd go to Sweden and pull on her new head of hair while I fuck her brains out.
What would this guy do? Perhaps even he doesn't know.
I look forward to the day when doctors can take a DNA sample and grow a replacement organ in a lab. The rate medical research is going, though, I've no idea if I'll ever actually see it.
Then I think about it for a while, and in the end I have to admit noone can really know what someone would do after such a stay of execution. My mother got one, and I think she grew as a person before the cancer struck back with a vengeance. If my friend got one, I'd go to Sweden and pull on her new head of hair while I fuck her brains out.
What would this guy do? Perhaps even he doesn't know.
I look forward to the day when doctors can take a DNA sample and grow a replacement organ in a lab. The rate medical research is going, though, I've no idea if I'll ever actually see it.
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A really tough decision to make and I'd not like to be the one to have to but I think a fair decision.
I feel for his mother, no mother should have to bury there own. She will no doubt feel guilty, he might have died an adult but the beinging of the end for him was drinking so much and so very young.
I feel for his mother too - I feel angry that this appears to be yet another case of parental neglect. This "mother" (and father, if there is/was one around) were legally responsible for their child's wellbeing when he was 13 years old. They let him continue drinking until it killed him at age 22. She and the father should be brought up on manslaughter charges.
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A really tough decision to make and I'd not like to be the one to have to but I think a fair decision.
I feel for his mother, no mother should have to bury there own. She will no doubt feel guilty, he might have died an adult but the beinging of the end for him was drinking so much and so very young.
I feel for his mother too - I feel angry that this appears to be yet another case of parental neglect. This "mother" (and father, if there is/was one around) were legally responsible for their child's wellbeing when he was 13 years old. They let him continue drinking until it killed him at age 22. She and the father should be brought up on manslaughter charges.
Whilst parents ARE responsible for their kids, the parents are never brought to task.
Until parents are held accountable for what their kids do, and punished accordingly, then this kind of behavour will only get worse.
Yes I agree she HAS to take some kind of responsibilty for hers sons death, sad as that may be.
Sex God
It's a difficult situation but the fact is that donor organs are scarce so the hospital have to have some criteria for deciding whether or not someone should be given a transplant based on relative merits.
In this case, I think the right decision was made.
In this case, I think the right decision was made.
There are so many people on the organ donor list that I think a fair decision was made.
Please dont forget if you havent already registered and would like to become an organ donor then please use the following link
I would like to say that I registered about 3 years ago and my daughter who at the time was only 7 asked if I could register her as well. She said if she was to die she would like to know that at least she was able to save other peoples lifes.
Please dont forget if you havent already registered and would like to become an organ donor then please use the following link
I would like to say that I registered about 3 years ago and my daughter who at the time was only 7 asked if I could register her as well. She said if she was to die she would like to know that at least she was able to save other peoples lifes.
Sexpert
I'm with Kenty on this one.
Plain fact is that the NHS does not have unlimited finances and resources, thus, healthcare has to be rationed on a most needed/most likely successful outcome/value for money (ie most cured per £) basis.
Clinicians, I know, do not like to have to make these choices, but have no choice.
I'm a smoker, not big or clever I know, but have no problem with being denied a lung transplant, though I'd hope they'd give me some good drugs to ease my passing.
However, I stay very fit with regular aerobic and strength maintenance exercise, drink in moderation, I'm not an ounce overweight and eat a balanced wholesome diet with no junk food (ok, the odd pizza once a month or so). So on the heart transplant thing, I hope I'd get sympathetic consideration.
I think they were right to deny him the transplant, and thought it outrageous that they gave one to Best, even though I liked him a lot.
Plain fact is that the NHS does not have unlimited finances and resources, thus, healthcare has to be rationed on a most needed/most likely successful outcome/value for money (ie most cured per £) basis.
Clinicians, I know, do not like to have to make these choices, but have no choice.
I'm a smoker, not big or clever I know, but have no problem with being denied a lung transplant, though I'd hope they'd give me some good drugs to ease my passing.
However, I stay very fit with regular aerobic and strength maintenance exercise, drink in moderation, I'm not an ounce overweight and eat a balanced wholesome diet with no junk food (ok, the odd pizza once a month or so). So on the heart transplant thing, I hope I'd get sympathetic consideration.
I think they were right to deny him the transplant, and thought it outrageous that they gave one to Best, even though I liked him a lot.
