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Quote by kentswingers777
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
Bluefish2009
Sex God
Quote by awayman
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.

Morals are subjective
I would also suggest that any businessman who does not result to some form of misinformation remains a very poor businessman
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Quote by awayman
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
In 1971, Branson was arrested and charged for selling records in Virgin stores that had been declared export stock. He settled out-of-court with UK Customs and Excise with an agreement to repay the unpaid tax and fines. Branson's mother Eve re-mortgaged the family home to help pay the settlement
I will not mention the " dirty tricks " campaign from BA against him though.
He is a self made millionaire something some people out there hate with a passion.
Big business is done with sometimes shady deals, and I bet the ones that moan about that would also be doing the dirty deals, if they had the chance.
Richard Branson is a top geezer, unfortunately the Socialists amongst us hate entrepreneurs.
Jewlnmart
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Quote by Mr_Lilly
The good thing about working in IT is that if you're good at your job, you don't really have to work.

It's easy to spell too :thumbup:
Lizaleanrob
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Quote by kentswingers777
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
In 1971, Branson was arrested and charged for selling records in Virgin stores that had been declared export stock. He settled out-of-court with UK Customs and Excise with an agreement to repay the unpaid tax and fines. Branson's mother Eve re-mortgaged the family home to help pay the settlement
I will not mention the " dirty tricks " campaign from BA against him though.
He is a self made millionaire something some people out there hate with a passion.
Big business is done with sometimes shady deals, and I bet the ones that moan about that would also be doing the dirty deals, if they had the chance.
Richard Branson is a top geezer, unfortunately the Socialists amongst us hate entrepreneurs.
The over educated under achievers seem to hate the under educated over achievers for some reason kenty but then life has never been fair wink
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
In 1971, Branson was arrested and charged for selling records in Virgin stores that had been declared export stock. He settled out-of-court with UK Customs and Excise with an agreement to repay the unpaid tax and fines. Branson's mother Eve re-mortgaged the family home to help pay the settlement
I will not mention the " dirty tricks " campaign from BA against him though.
He is a self made millionaire something some people out there hate with a passion.
Big business is done with sometimes shady deals, and I bet the ones that moan about that would also be doing the dirty deals, if they had the chance.
Richard Branson is a top geezer, unfortunately the Socialists amongst us hate entrepreneurs.
The over educated under achievers seem to hate the under educated over achievers for some reason kenty but then life has never been fair wink
Why do you always want to personalize this stuff? You know the square root of fuck all about me, and whether I'm an under achiever or not, but you have to personalize it any time awkward facts rear their heads.
Branson is a crook. The story tells its own tale.
Lizaleanrob
Sex God
Quote by awayman
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
In 1971, Branson was arrested and charged for selling records in Virgin stores that had been declared export stock. He settled out-of-court with UK Customs and Excise with an agreement to repay the unpaid tax and fines. Branson's mother Eve re-mortgaged the family home to help pay the settlement
I will not mention the " dirty tricks " campaign from BA against him though.
He is a self made millionaire something some people out there hate with a passion.
Big business is done with sometimes shady deals, and I bet the ones that moan about that would also be doing the dirty deals, if they had the chance.
Richard Branson is a top geezer, unfortunately the Socialists amongst us hate entrepreneurs.
The over educated under achievers seem to hate the under educated over achievers for some reason kenty but then life has never been fair wink
Why do you always want to personalize this stuff? You know the square root of fuck all about me, and whether I'm an under achiever or not, but you have to personalize it any time awkward facts rear their heads.
Branson is a crook. The story tells its own tale.
i don`t believe i was directing this at yourself just an observation that iv`e made in business that`s all
however you feel about you and your life is up to you and not something i`d be remotely interested in
crook`s normally go to prison business men that chance their luck are normally successful
like branson for example
so he sails close to the wind something no one else on here has done i`m sure :wink:
you really should get away have a break you seem a little tired ::allow me
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Bluefish2009
Sex God
Quote by Kaznkev

You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.

Morals are subjective
I would also suggest that any businessman who does not result to some form of misinformation remains a very poor businessman
Ethics may be,morals i would have to we allow morality to be subjective then we are saying that xxxxx is only wrong as a matter of personal seems to me that morals must be based on a firmer footing than that.
Of course that does not mean we cannot disagree but there has to be a basis for saying certain things,i.e the holocaust are say i believe its wrong in a subjective world,is allowing another to say,well i believe it was right,and if morals are subjective we have no basis for disagreeing with them.
Well I understand what you are saying, but I still believe that morals are subjective, some might think it morally correct to smack their children others believe it is not, I do not see how you could possibly have hard and fast rules dunno
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Quote by awayman
Virgin's staff, as in all its ventures, get paid bottom of the market wages because their boss has an inbuilt contempt for customers. The entire Virgin brand is an extravagant con, an emperor's new clothes operation built around the myth of Richard Branson's genius that has been cruelly exposed by the likes of Private Eye and Tom Bower more than once.

I don'tusually post seriously in this forum as I'm crap at this stuff but....
Having worked as crew for Virgin and recruited crew for them for three years in my young, slim and pretty past I have to disagree with that from first hand experience as opposed to what I've read or been told.
The service oriented competencies we recruited against and onboard service we offered as a result was exceptional, and that's why people often switched allegiance from the likes of BA, at least in the early days. Granted there was inconsistency as with any service oriented product delivered through people. Most of the time it was great service. And still is, I fly regularly for business now and it's only recently that BA seem to have even started to 'pull their socks up'.
BA's crew are rewarded exceptionally well and are now having to ensure that the service they offer matches the expectations of their passengers who now know that. And it all too often doesn't. For years BA had a monopoly on the skies because of the slots they held in and out of the UK's major airports and are now for the first time having to justify themselves in a competitive market.. and failing badly so far.
The only people that will lose out in the end will be the staff as they cannot continue to post the kind of losses they just have as an organisation without doing something drastic soon.
I think they've totally misjudged the mood of the nation right now in doing what they are, time will tell what happens next but I'm sure Branson and his peers are rubbing their hands together right now...
I took a lot of my early wisdom from Branson who was present and visible in the business a lot of the time. He was smart and people liked him and understood the importance of £ and people in effective and successful businesses. He must have showed me something right as I've been running my own business now since 2002 and just seen out one of the worst recessions in a long time..
Oh and Mr Lily - next time you're having a heart attack at 39K feet above the Atlantic make sure you have a 'glorified waiter' to help you out. I'm sure a jam scone will see you through to an emergency landing in Newfoundland or back in Prestwick ;)
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Quote by awayman
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
In 1971, Branson was arrested and charged for selling records in Virgin stores that had been declared export stock. He settled out-of-court with UK Customs and Excise with an agreement to repay the unpaid tax and fines. Branson's mother Eve re-mortgaged the family home to help pay the settlement
I will not mention the " dirty tricks " campaign from BA against him though.
He is a self made millionaire something some people out there hate with a passion.
Big business is done with sometimes shady deals, and I bet the ones that moan about that would also be doing the dirty deals, if they had the chance.
Richard Branson is a top geezer, unfortunately the Socialists amongst us hate entrepreneurs.
The over educated under achievers seem to hate the under educated over achievers for some reason kenty but then life has never been fair wink
Why do you always want to personalize this stuff? You know the square root of fuck all about me, and whether I'm an under achiever or not, but you have to personalize it any time awkward facts rear their heads.
Branson is a crook. The story tells its own tale.
I think a crook that has been caught would go to jail....yes?
Can you show me the prison term he served please?
Why do you hate successful people so much? Maybe people that tend to pick holes in people are under achievers in life, and before you say anything that was not aimed at you, just a general question.
Unknown User
Quote by Lizaleanrob
All the times The Mail has been slagged off on here, and yet when it suits they use it for their own purpose.
Now that is double standards.

Is it?
Is it not a valid point to make that if the paper that supported the blackshirts thinks Branson is beyond the pale, he really must be beyond the pale?
Yes it is.
Us Brits just take great delight in building people up, only to have a greater delight by knocking them down again....it's one of the few things left we seem great at.
I for one think Branson is a clever guy....he has made his millions and that I feel is why people hate him so much.
Self made millionaire people invariably get slagged off by the Marxists and Socialists in our society. I would not be as polite to call them that, I would say just fecking jealous!!!
It amazes me with peoples attitudes on a moralistic point, from a swingers community.
You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.
In 1971, Branson was arrested and charged for selling records in Virgin stores that had been declared export stock. He settled out-of-court with UK Customs and Excise with an agreement to repay the unpaid tax and fines. Branson's mother Eve re-mortgaged the family home to help pay the settlement
I will not mention the " dirty tricks " campaign from BA against him though.
He is a self made millionaire something some people out there hate with a passion.
Big business is done with sometimes shady deals, and I bet the ones that moan about that would also be doing the dirty deals, if they had the chance.
Richard Branson is a top geezer, unfortunately the Socialists amongst us hate entrepreneurs.
The over educated under achievers seem to hate the under educated over achievers for some reason kenty but then life has never been fair wink
Why do you always want to personalize this stuff? You know the square root of fuck all about me, and whether I'm an under achiever or not, but you have to personalize it any time awkward facts rear their heads.
Branson is a crook. The story tells its own tale.
idon`t believe i was directing this at yourself just an observation that iv`e made in business that`s all
however you feel about you and your life is up to you and not something i`d be remotely interested in
crook`s normally go to prison business men that chance their luck are normally successful
like branson for example
so he sails close to the wind something no one else on here has done i`m sure :wink:
you really should get away have a break you seem a little tired ::allow me
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Runs a better airline than BA.
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Staggerlee_BB
Sex God
One thing to say about Branson.....While Virgin trains where taking millions in subsidy from the government and claiming poverty and unprofitability...Branson was taking millions out of the company....Yes that's your taxes your money
Unknown User
Well I would rather he took the taxes , than some benefit scrounger who ain't done a days fecking work in his lazy life.
But then some would say that was fairer.
Build em up and knock em down....that's Brits for ya.
Staggerlee_BB
Sex God
sometimes kenty you really crack me up.....I bet you kept a straight face and everything when you where typing that
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
sometimes kenty you really crack me up.....I bet you kept a straight face and everything when you where typing that

The thing is Staggs you will never know.
Am I just here for the 100% total wind up or.....am I a serious moody fucker?
The beauty of the internet eh? wink
Bluefish2009
Sex God
Quote by Kaznkev

You know when customs and excise were chasing him for tax dodging, were they marxists or socialists? You don't have to be amoral to be here - I am a very morally focussed person. I just don't have Branson's set of morals that say lying and swindling are reasonable business tactics.

Morals are subjective
I would also suggest that any businessman who does not result to some form of misinformation remains a very poor businessman
Ethics may be,morals i would have to we allow morality to be subjective then we are saying that xxxxx is only wrong as a matter of personal seems to me that morals must be based on a firmer footing than that.
Of course that does not mean we cannot disagree but there has to be a basis for saying certain things,i.e the holocaust are say i believe its wrong in a subjective world,is allowing another to say,well i believe it was right,and if morals are subjective we have no basis for disagreeing with them.
Well I understand what you are saying, but I still believe that morals are subjective, some might think it morally correct to smack their children others believe it is not, I do not see how you could possibly have hard and fast rules dunno
Sorry i am a pedant with a philosophy
Rules are not the same as morals,i believe as a moral fact(dodgy concept i will let those clever that me pull it apart,)that hurting children is wrong.
That is a solid black /white allow their values to be corroded because they dont follow back ethical beliefs,i.e the rules they conduct themelves by,to the underlying morals behind them.
Someone may believe it is correct to beat there children,however if u examine their values what they are really doing is ignoring there own moral beliefs in order to defend an ethical stance.
Or to put it another way,they are doing one thing whilst claiming to believe another.
No need to be sorry Kaz, I just can't agree. That really is just how you see what they are doing, most firmly believe their morals are sound.
I think It is impossible that any two people could have the exact same view of moral we all had the same moral view we would not have army abroad killing people. Who is to say that their moral standards are higher than others?
In some remote tribes it is perfectly acceptable to have several wives and marry girls of 10 years old, others find that morally repugnant.
Many in vanilla life would doubt our morals for our sexual antics here
My parents brought me up to have very high morals, but some will not have been so lucky, and will have very different views, but they may well believe thay are as correct as you believe you are.
Lizaleanrob
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
One thing to say about Branson.....While Virgin trains where taking millions in subsidy from the government and claiming poverty and unprofitability...Branson was taking millions out of the company....Yes that's your taxes your money

i do believe he is in the business of making money and this only proves the fact he is a success regardless of if its the tax payers or not wink
i also believe that this has all been done under a labour government (i know your not a labour supporter )
i think kenty has a point this may prove to the scrounger`s that there is other ways of taking tax payers money :wink:
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Quote by Kaznkev
sometimes kenty you really crack me up.....I bet you kept a straight face and everything when you where typing that

The thing is Staggs you will never know.
Am I just here for the 100% total wind up or.....am I a serious moody fucker?
The beauty of the internet eh? wink
if you are admitting you are merely a troll i hope youget the ban you boast of
I bet you do too.
I do not " boast " of getting any ban, I merely put my point of view across which some hate me doing with a passion. I have over the years dealt with many left wing, tree huggers....they are not here now...but I am still here fighting my corner. lol :lol:
Still I was here before you and will be here long after your gone.
A Troll?
My kids used to have those when they were much younger, and anyway that was a joke for Staggs. I really do not know why you had to have your say....oh yes I do.
Still no arguement from this side of the pc, certainly not when it is not really worth the bother.
Ya have a nice day now....ya hear.
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I think you are being a tad over sensitive, or paranoid.
I treat nobody any different on here, I merely put my point across.
There have been many members myself included that have taken digs and sly remarks, the nature of the beast.
You I agree have not been here long but if you had you would know that I have had many many occasions, where others have slagged me off far worse than anything you may have had.
When you post a lot or are outspoken in your views, you HAVE to expect a bit of backlash....I do and so should anyone else that can be outlandish with their views.
I do not think I accused you of lying or of being a bad parent, I merely pointed out along with others that on occasion peoples views can seem like double standards and hypocritical....mine included at times.
Still if you take things personally on here, then maybe it is not the right place to be?
The Mods are here to stop the personnel attacks, and as far as I can see IF nothing is said, or a thread is not cleaned, then it obviously does not fall foul of anything.
There is a definatly " them and us " thing going on here...we all know what I am saying.
That is ok as I do not have any problems with that at all, but you are as guilty as the next person where some cannot help " sticking up " for another member who is in that same band as themselves.
Flower made a valid point only a few days ago.
There has been a saying on here for a fair few years now...." post and be damned ". I have many times been damned, but hey it is after all a bloody forum in cyber world. Don't take things to serious....I don't.
Now where are me leathers as my bike is calling for a blast...the sun is shining, and the cool sea air of the South coast is calling.
As for Brighton we still chat in private on occasion, and he seems fine....probably marching somewhere or another today I suppose.
Remember health safety as well....never go out in the sun without protection, as that red lobster skin can be bloody painful in the morning,as I saw on a cam last night.....ouch.
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Kaznkev
sometimes kenty you really crack me up.....I bet you kept a straight face and everything when you where typing that

The thing is Staggs you will never know.
Am I just here for the 100% total wind up or.....am I a serious moody fucker?
The beauty of the internet eh? wink
if you are admitting you are merely a troll i hope youget the ban you boast of
I bet you do too.
Still I was here before you and will be here long after your gone.
A Troll?
My kids used to have those when they were much younger, and anyway that was a joke for Staggs. I really do not know why you had to have your say....oh yes I do.
Still no arguement from this side of the pc, certainly not when it is not really worth the bother.
Ya have a nice day now....ya hear.
here and in chat i sense an awful lot of personal animosity towards me,i really dont know why,nor why you think that longevity here matters in the slightest .As you are a free member undoubtedly u will be here longer than me,we have used a variety of ways to swing,this is simply the newest.
And i dislike trolls because they make every debate about them.
recently you have accusd me of lying,and called into question my parenting skills,i simply stepped away and went and did something more i would be interested to know where this animus comes from,i managed to debate with brighton without him ever acting like this?
Btw where is the geezer theses days?
Your attitude to me must be boring the pants of other users,and stifles any debate i get involved in.
Yes and your constant Kent bashing, at every available opportunity is getting abit tiresome aswell, do you really need to follow him around from thread to thread trying to get one up on him, i think you maybe a little bit obsessed with him.
And stop trying to play the victim in all this, your both just as bad as each other.
Unknown User
Quote by Mr-Powers
sometimes kenty you really crack me up.....I bet you kept a straight face and everything when you where typing that

The thing is Staggs you will never know.
Am I just here for the 100% total wind up or.....am I a serious moody fucker?
The beauty of the internet eh? wink
if you are admitting you are merely a troll i hope youget the ban you boast of
I bet you do too.
Still I was here before you and will be here long after your gone.
A Troll?
My kids used to have those when they were much younger, and anyway that was a joke for Staggs. I really do not know why you had to have your say....oh yes I do.
Still no arguement from this side of the pc, certainly not when it is not really worth the bother.
Ya have a nice day now....ya hear.
here and in chat i sense an awful lot of personal animosity towards me,i really dont know why,nor why you think that longevity here matters in the slightest .As you are a free member undoubtedly u will be here longer than me,we have used a variety of ways to swing,this is simply the newest.
And i dislike trolls because they make every debate about them.
recently you have accusd me of lying,and called into question my parenting skills,i simply stepped away and went and did something more i would be interested to know where this animus comes from,i managed to debate with brighton without him ever acting like this?
Btw where is the geezer theses days?
Your attitude to me must be boring the pants of other users,and stifles any debate i get involved in.
Yes and your constant Kent bashing, at every available opportunity is getting abit tiresome aswell, do you really need to follow him around from thread to thread trying to get one up on him, i think you maybe a little bit obsessed with him.
And stop trying to play the victim in all this, your both just as bad as each other.
I have to put up with that all the time Powers. lol
When ya a good looking geezer it is something one just has to try ang get used too. We still find it almost impossible to find meets here though. :sad:
Still I try. :lol:
Staggerlee_BB
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
One thing to say about Branson.....While Virgin trains where taking millions in subsidy from the government and claiming poverty and unprofitability...Branson was taking millions out of the company....Yes that's your taxes your money

i do believe he is in the business of making money and this only proves the fact he is a success regardless of if its the tax payers or not wink
i also believe that this has all been done under a labour government (i know your not a labour supporter )
i think kenty has a point this may prove to the scrounger`s that there is other ways of taking tax payers money :wink:
It would seem using your logic then that the 'dole scroungers' we hear so much about are also a success and we should celebrate their achievement in taking taxpayers money without earning it.....or do we only congratulate millionaires for swindling us
Lizaleanrob
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
One thing to say about Branson.....While Virgin trains where taking millions in subsidy from the government and claiming poverty and unprofitability...Branson was taking millions out of the company....Yes that's your taxes your money

i do believe he is in the business of making money and this only proves the fact he is a success regardless of if its the tax payers or not wink
i also believe that this has all been done under a labour government (i know your not a labour supporter )
i think kenty has a point this may prove to the scrounger`s that there is other ways of taking tax payers money :wink:
It would seem using your logic then that the 'dole scroungers' we hear so much about are also a success and we should celebrate their achievement in taking taxpayers money without earning it.....or do we only congratulate millionaires for swindling us
i know better than most some of these benefit fraudsters are indeed very clever and as you put it very successful wasted talent really like branson as you state we cant have one without the other it seems i know which side of the fence i am far more comfortable with
i do think our benefit system is one to be proud of but the abuse of it is not
its a shame what people do to avoid getting captured sometimes shows how much of a wasted talent these people are or are they just wasters dunno
Bluefish2009
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
One thing to say about Branson.....While Virgin trains where taking millions in subsidy from the government and claiming poverty and unprofitability...Branson was taking millions out of the company....Yes that's your taxes your money

i do believe he is in the business of making money and this only proves the fact he is a success regardless of if its the tax payers or not wink
i also believe that this has all been done under a labour government (i know your not a labour supporter )
i think kenty has a point this may prove to the scrounger`s that there is other ways of taking tax payers money :wink:
It would seem using your logic then that the 'dole scroungers' we hear so much about are also a success and we should celebrate their achievement in taking taxpayers money without earning it.....or do we only congratulate millionaires for swindling us
I do see what your saying Stags, but I do see some difference, I can not speak as an expert as I know little about Branson and his carer. If as some say here, Branson obtained tax payers money by deception, one has to say he has used it very well, he now employs probably thousands of people, how many of the so called scroungers will use their to such effect? So rather than being a tax burden, surley due to the amount of people he employs he must be paying in a great deal indeed
Staggerlee_BB
Sex God

not sure about the provenance of this one but.....
Another one from a dubious source.....
Draw your own conclusions
I'd say it doesn't matter who's fleecing the state, what they're doing is wrong and perhaps those that take most should be made an example of first.....it might even discourage some of the little fish
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB

not sure about the provenance of this one but.....
Another one from a dubious source.....
Draw your own conclusions
I'd say it doesn't matter who's fleecing the state, what they're doing is wrong and perhaps those that take most should be made an example of first.....it might even discourage some of the little fish

The Daily Mail article is authored by Tom Bower, who is a pretty reliable source. Instead of discussing the article the first reaction from one of the trolls round here was to call me a hypocrite for quoting the Daily Mail.
Trolls don't do facts; they do prejudices.
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not sure about the provenance of this one but.....
Another one from a dubious source.....
Draw your own conclusions
I'd say it doesn't matter who's fleecing the state, what they're doing is wrong and perhaps those that take most should be made an example of first.....it might even discourage some of the little fish

The Daily Mail article is authored by Tom Bower, who is a pretty reliable source. Instead of discussing the article the first reaction from one of the trolls round here was to call me a hypocrite for quoting the Daily Mail.
Trolls don't do facts; they do prejudices.
Wind ya neck in and have a Kit Kat.
You cannot really be serious by your own admission ( the Blackshirt paper )a paper you seem to hate with a passion, yet soon as when it suits you after doing a quick Google, you then use the very source you slag off so much. Talk about double standards, then have the cheek to call me a Troll.
People on here could do with a humour transplant, I think Staggs knows me well enough on here, but you obviously are still a tad wet behind the ears. :sad:
You cannot have your cake and eat it....or can you??
Just off to find a picture of a Troll....whatever one of those looks like.
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You look nothing like one, my sisters used tgo collect them in the 70's, little stubby legged things with wild hair lol
yes I know ive highjacked the thread I was going to start a new one in the Cafe about Trolls but thought i'd drop in a quick bit in here but I know you'll go back to the original OP
Gillian
Lizaleanrob
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Quote by Gillianthe1st
You look nothing like one, my sisters used tgo collect them in the 70's, little stubby legged things with wild hair lol
yes I know ive highjacked the thread I was going to start a new one in the Cafe about Trolls but thought i'd drop in a quick bit in here but I know you'll go back to the original OP
Gillian

there you go