Urban fox attack

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Well, fuck my old boots.
I punched "how many pubs in Thamesmead" in google and guess what, the first on the list was 'The Fox'

Never heard of that pub there. That is Thamesmead Souff London GnV, not The Fox in Thamesmead, East Louisiana. lol

Your making it up as you go along. As usual then? flipa

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Well, fuck my old boots.
I punched "how many pubs in Thamesmead" in google and guess what, the first on the list was 'The Fox'

Never heard of that pub there. That is Thamesmead Souff London GnV, not The Fox in Thamesmead, East Louisiana. lol

Never said there was star. I merely reported what I did and what the result was.
No need to shoot the messenger just because you lost the argument rolleyes

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Well, fuck my old boots.
I punched "how many pubs in Thamesmead" in google and guess what, the first on the list was 'The Fox'

Never heard of that pub there. That is Thamesmead Souff London GnV, not The Fox in Thamesmead, East Louisiana. lol

Never said there was star. I merely reported what I did and what the result was.
No need to shoot the messenger jus because you lost the argument rolleyes

Seems the French ISP's never heard of Google. :silly:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Well, fuck my old boots.
I punched "how many pubs in Thamesmead" in google and guess what, the first on the list was 'The Fox'

Never heard of that pub there. That is Thamesmead Souff London GnV, not The Fox in Thamesmead, East Louisiana. lol

Never said there was star. I merely reported what I did and what the result was.
No need to shoot the messenger jus because you lost the argument rolleyes

Seems the French ISP's never heard of Google. :silly:
dunno

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
If you want to see foxes doing well, get out into the countryside with your binoculars and see them in their natural habitat.

According to my very nice local Environmental Health officer who lives out in the countryside, he stated he does not see any foxes there now, they have all moved into the City areas, as much easier to find food.
I can not vouch for your local officer, but believe he could be wrong, only about 13% of the British fox population lives in urban areas. People rarely see foxes in the countryside, whereas urban foxes are much less wary of people. Since foxes are seen more often in cities, this gives the impression that there are more urban than rural foxes.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
If you want to see foxes doing well, get out into the countryside with your binoculars and see them in their natural habitat.

According to my very nice local Environmental Health officer who lives out in the countryside, he stated he does not see any foxes there now, they have all moved into the City areas, as much easier to find food.
I can not vouch for your local officer, but believe he could be wrong, only about 13% of the British fox population lives in urban areas. People rarely see foxes in the countryside, whereas urban foxes are much less wary of people. Since foxes are seen more often in cities, this gives the impression that there are more urban than rural foxes.
And are they not nocturnal?

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Everyone gets their beer form Tesco's....16 cans for a quid.

by my reckoning you have a tenners worth before you start posting

:rotflmao::rotflmao:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by flower411
The RSPCA seem to have plenty of time to spy on people, we could encourage the same sort of thing in towns ...bit like the neighbourhood watch.

I must have been out on the day MI5 handed spying duties over to the RSPCA. I don't understand the reference there tbh flower.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
I for one am a fox lover and have done far more for foxes than most who shout a lot and most often do little

What have you done for foxes Blue?

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance

Helped the local hunt. Well that's helping the countryside, is it not? Some mad kinda logic there.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim
On your own head be it..... Foxes are opportunistic scavengers and proliferate where there is easy food to have. The urban foxes aren't carrying Lidl bags - yet

I think that is a wonderful piece of staged footage. It is amazing to see a fox sniffing around a dead piglet lol

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Well, fuck my old boots.
I punched "how many pubs in Thamesmead" in google and guess what, the first on the list was 'The Fox'
By the way, there are quite a few :lol2:

I have to give credit where it's due and that is a funny coincidence lol

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
As a very good idea, read some of the other comments below the video clip to realise what people thought of that utter nonsense.

You're obviously a townie Star, especially the way you belittle and denigrate any opinion that opposes yours. I followed your posts in the badger cull thread, and it and this shows you obviously know little of country matters or animals. Never mind, you carry on feeding and defending the cute little furry creatures. One day you might discover you're not actually helping them.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
Well, fuck my old boots.
I punched "how many pubs in Thamesmead" in google and guess what, the first on the list was 'The Fox'
By the way, there are quite a few :lol2:

I have to give credit where it's due and that is a funny coincidence lol

Pity was that star couldn't see the funny side of it though Trev (or a least admit to it) :sad:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
.....I think that is a wonderful piece of staged footage. It is amazing to see a fox sniffing around a dead piglet.

They sniff around anything that can possibly taken for food.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by RandJ
One day you might discover you're not actually helping them.

By which time it might be too late, as the fox gets his neighbour's neonate
Oh yes, sorry. That would be their fault, wouldn't it rolleyes

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance

Living in the countryside for my youth and spending much of my spare time in the countryside I do a lot. Many weekends are spent maintaining several areas of woodland which is fox habitat, even providing them with a free lunch from time to time though out the year, one they have to hunt for them selves

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim

.....I think that is a wonderful piece of staged footage. It is amazing to see a fox sniffing around a dead piglet.

They sniff around anything that can possibly taken for food.
Yes, especially something that smells of Pork!

10 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

Helped the local hunt. Well that's helping the countryside, is it not? Some mad kinda logic there.
I do not wish to see this thread turned into another fox hunting debate, as you seam obsesed by it. But you are correct, as I firmly believe hunting with hounds to be the very finnest fox managment tool, this is why I support it

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
I for one am a fox lover and have done far more for foxes than most who shout a lot and most often do little

What have you done for foxes Blue?
Living in the countryside for my youth and spending much of my spare time in the countryside I do a lot. Many weekends are spent maintaining several areas of woodland which is fox habitat, even providing them with a free lunch from time to time though out the year, one they have to hunt for them selves
Fattening them up for people to kill later were you lol

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance

.....I think that is a wonderful piece of staged footage. It is amazing to see a fox sniffing around a dead piglet.

They sniff around anything that can possibly taken for food.
Yes, especially something that smells of Pork!
Which is moot point and does not reduce the validity of the film sequence. They have anything that can be eaten and preferably easy to take. If you're doing real woodland/wildlife management then you should know that, and that their numbers need to be controlled. And for the record I don't approve of the yoiks tallyho brigade either.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
One day you might discover you're not actually helping them.

By which time it might be too late, as the fox gets his neighbour's neonate
Oh yes, sorry. That would be their fault, wouldn't it rolleyes

Silly comment......

10 Feb 2013

This lady had been eating pork I suspect lol

I am not sure if these cases are becoming more regular or just more publicised

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
I for one am a fox lover and have done far more for foxes than most who shout a lot and most often do little

What have you done for foxes Blue?
Living in the countryside for my youth and spending much of my spare time in the countryside I do a lot. Many weekends are spent maintaining several areas of woodland which is fox habitat, even providing them with a free lunch from time to time though out the year, one they have to hunt for them selves
Fattening them up for people to kill later were you lol

Well you put a smile on my face Trev :lol:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim

.....I think that is a wonderful piece of staged footage. It is amazing to see a fox sniffing around a dead piglet.

They sniff around anything that can possibly taken for food.
Yes, especially something that smells of Pork!
Which is moot point and does not reduce the validity of the film sequence. They have anything that can be eaten and preferably easy to take.
Smelling of food is hardly a moot point is it? The fox hunts using several senses, one of which is smell. So if it smells like food it probably is.
Who's questioning the validity of the film sequence? Not me. I think that the film perfectly catches the result of putting a dead piglet somewhere that foxes are known to look for food.

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim
If you're doing real woodland/wildlife management then you should know that, and that their numbers need to be controlled.

Where did I say I'm doing any woodland or wildlife management? You've clearly got yourself confused there.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
Who's questioning the validity of the film sequence? Not me. I think that the film perfectly catches the result of putting a dead piglet somewhere that foxes are known to look for food.

Cute side step, or are you truly ignorant of the point the sequence was making. Concentrating on the fact that it was dead piglet, and only happened because it was, is a strawman stance. Or would you have preferred the film maker to have use a real baby?

Quote by Trevaunance
Where did I say I'm doing any woodland or wildlife management? You've clearly got yourself confused there.

Correct, my apologies. It was Bluefish's comment. All of the cutting and quoting can get misleading. But the fact that it isn't you doing the woodland management explains your lack of knowledge on the subject.

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim
Who's questioning the validity of the film sequence? Not me. I think that the film perfectly catches the result of putting a dead piglet somewhere that foxes are known to look for food.

Cute side step, or are you truly ignorant of the point the sequence was making.
Not at all. I think the film does exactly what it sets out to prove. That if you leave a 'baby' out in the garden at night there is a high chance that some harm might come to it.

Quote by Trevaunance
Where did I say I'm doing any woodland or wildlife management? You've clearly got yourself confused there.

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim
Correct, my apologies. It was Bluefish's comment. All of the cutting and quoting can get misleading. But the fact that it isn't you doing the woodland management explains your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Sorry? Are we talking about woodland management or a video that was shot in an urban back garden? My knowledge of woodland management is restricted to be fair, but I do know about back gardens lol

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
Who's questioning the validity of the film sequence? Not me. I think that the film perfectly catches the result of putting a dead piglet somewhere that foxes are known to look for food.

Cute side step, or are you truly ignorant of the point the sequence was making.
Not at all. I think the film does exactly what it sets out to prove. That if you leave a 'baby' out in the garden at night there is a high chance that some harm might come to it.

Quote by Trevaunance
Where did I say I'm doing any woodland or wildlife management? You've clearly got yourself confused there.

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim
Correct, my apologies. It was Bluefish's comment. All of the cutting and quoting can get misleading. But the fact that it isn't you doing the woodland management explains your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Sorry? Are we talking about woodland management or a video that was shot in an urban back garden? My knowledge of woodland management is restricted to be fair, but I do know about back gardens lol

Bloody peeping toms :lol: :lol: :lol:

10 Feb 2013

Quote by Trevaunance
Not at all. I think the film does exactly what it sets out to prove. That if you leave a 'baby' out in the garden at night there is a high chance that some harm might come to it.

Quote by Trevaunance
Sorry? Are we talking about woodland management or a video that was shot in an urban back garden? My knowledge of woodland management is restricted to be fair, but I do know about back gardens :lol:

Very good points Trev........very good indeed. rotflmao

11 Feb 2013

The op thread is about the Mayor of London suggesting a cull of urban foxes. After an incident about a 4 week old baby allegedly having its finger bite off by a fox.
Star you went on saying the following:

Quote by starlightcouple
A fox entered the home of a human and bit a child causing it to lose on of it's fingers. Sure a tragic case and one where I would ask what was a back door doing open with a young child in the house.

Since when have parents not left a back door or a window open for fresh air while a baby is in the house?
Although I am feeling slightly suspicion with this case as the weather is to cold at present I believe to have a door open with a baby around that is so young.
But in your following quotes you contradict yourself on many occasions.
As you then went on to quote an article written by James Barrington I have quoted the following.

Quote by James Barrinton”
If people want to feed foxes, that’s OK in my view, but again try to do this remotely, rather than attract the animal into taking food sometimes almost by hand. Encouraging them into the house or conservatory could mean we see further incidents of foxes being spooked and reacting in the way we have seen in news reports.
The fox is handsome animal and inviting wildlife into a back garden is a delight for many people. However, some treat the fox like an extended pet and this is where the problems start.

You then quote the following about his article

Quote by starlightcouple
That is why I posted the link Blue. There are arguments for and against as it should be if you are truly unbiased.

In your own submission you believed his article to be fair yet he is saying he isn’t against feeding foxes but do so in their environment which isn’t outside back doors but away from houses. You clearly state below you would need a law in place before you would possibly think about stopping.

Quote by starlightcouple
And how would you propose to catch these people? I would be very interested to know. I feed them in my garden, I see no problem with doing this, and unless you can show me a law that states what I am doing is illegal, I shall continue to do it. They are such wonderful animals, so much better than those other creatures..... the horse.

You are complaining about culling yet agree James Barrington’s article is fair in his approach and he is saying people should stop feeding foxes from homes yet you see nothing wrong with what you are doing. Instead you quoted
Then Quote

Quote by starlightcouple
Maybe leaving doors open with babies asleep in the house should also have been in the article, but maybe the author thought that would have been an obvious thing to do?

Quote by starlightcouple
What about instead of thinking up ways of controlling wild animals, why can't we find a way of stopping the human race from growing?

Star you are encouraging this.
How long might it be before we are reading a baby is eaten by a fox entering a house?
Don’t worry thought as you wont be blamed the fox will.
But you will not be question about your feeding of them so close to houses which commonsense would tell most people. That to do so is making foxes believe houses now are places to get food not just bins and rubbish left around so to counter your argue you then quote the following.

Quote by starlightcouple
Blame anyone Blue, then blame councils and Governments for continuing to reduce wild animals natural habitats. I am helping currently a nice couple of foxes who have I would presume mated to have nice little fox cubs.

Blame anyone apart from those that think it is fine to feed them from houses hey?
You then went onto Quote the following

Quote by starlightcouple
According to my very nice local Environmental Health officer who lives out in the countryside, he stated he does not see any foxes there now, they have all moved into the City areas, as much easier to find food.

Which clearly states, “foxes find it easier to find food in cities”.
Yet you blame the builders for lack of food.
Forgive me if I am wrong but I would have thought more houses more waste of food.
So you can ask the following from Blue

Quote by starlightcouple
What have you done for foxes Blue ? Helped the local hunt. Well that's helping the countryside, is it not? Some mad kinda logic there.

What are you doing for Foxes?
Which is why Boris is calling for a cull of Foxes which I am pissed off about as we have foxes around here that have not been a nuisance to people yet but I believe you are going to get them killed for your own selfishness.
You then quoted the following.

Quote by starlightcouple
Also Boris the menace as London Mayor, should talk less and do more action..

So I would like you to take a leaf out of your own words and stop being a menace to foxes and talk less and do more for the foxes and stop feeding them at your back door.
Feed them by railway embankments, woods etc.
I think your argues are lame and ill thought out without logical defence of what you are doing you have rules for all and rules for yourself which you would constantly defend but attack others.
Which I believe shows clear signs of authoritarianism personality traits.