Urban fox attack

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Rosie_and_Jim
One day you might discover you're not actually helping them.

By which time it might be too late, as the fox gets his neighbour's neonate
Oh yes, sorry. That would be their fault, wouldn't it rolleyes

Silly comment......
Sorry RandJ, my comment wasn't made at you but at star saying that he feeds a fox down the bottom of his garden.

11 Feb 2013

Minx too much in one go to answer there and am not going to quote and re-quote to that scale.
You want me to answer Minx, then kindly put your questions in a more easy to read format, like one or two questions at a time. As otherwise with you then responding in your usual red type, we will end up having pages of it. So you cut that back to easy to answer sections and I will answer it.
The bits that I will answer are...

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Since when have parents not left a back door or a window open for fresh air while a baby is in the house?

What in the middle of winter? A door at the back of the house? I have never known anyone to do that in the depths of winter. The door ' apparently ' was broken or at least the latch was, and they were waiting for their Housing Association to come around and fix it. They ' apparently ' had asked more than once which means the back doors latch must have been broken for a couple of days. So how did they make sure the door was secure at night, when they were all asleep? Don't tell me they left the door unsecured in the middle of the night. The one bit I do agree with you on is that something does seem a bit suspicious. This family it seems from the reports in the media are now blaming the local council and the Housing association which I believe is Phoenix Housing. What is wrong with them fixing the latch?

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Although I am feeling slightly suspicion with this case as the weather is to cold at present I believe to have a door open with a baby around that is so young.

That sentence makes no sense at all as it seems not finished., so cannot answer it.

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Which is why Boris is calling for a cull of Foxes which I am pissed off about as we have foxes around here that have not been a nuisance to people yet but I believe you are going to get them killed for your own selfishness.

What a silly statement. For MY selfishness? I think man in general is responsible for their inability to discard of their own rubbish properly, and the councils insistence on bi weekly collections.I know this area rather well as I used to work about 5 minutes from there. These people leave their rubbish bags outside their houses for days on end, so if you are looking for anyone to blame, blame the residents for not keeping their rubbish more secure.
This council is now saying they will have to do a ' limited ' cull, but had one of those residents complained to Bromley Council last week about the fox problem, the council would have said what they all say now, in that they do not cull foxes. Councils stopped culling foxes years ago to save money ' apparently ', but now that Bromley Council is in the spotlight funnily enough one of their Councillors is going to take a bit of action to shut the media up. Charming.
Boris is the Mayor of London with all those powers, let us see after the media circus has died down in this issue, whether he does actually do anything about it. The councils will be screaming at him, where is the money going to come from to cull the fox in other boroughs. Very little will be done on a problem that is so rare. Spend the money on irresponsible dog owners I say.
Any other questions you need answered Minx, then please put them in a more easy to read format and not like you have with the quote thing reading like a bit of a puzzle to understand.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Minx too much in one go to answer there and am not going to quote and re-quote to that scale.
You want me to answer Minx, then kindly put your questions in a more easy to read format?
The bits that I will answer are...

Since when have parents not left a back door or a window open for fresh air while a baby is in the house?

What in the middle of winter? A door at the back of the house? I have never known anyone to do that in the depths of winter.

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Although I am feeling slightly suspicion with this case, as the weather is to cold at present I believe to have a door open with a baby around that is so young.

That sentence makes no sense at all as it seems not finished., so cannot answer it.

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Which is why Boris is calling for a cull of Foxes which I am pissed off about as we have foxes around here that have not been a nuisance to people yet but I believe you are going to get them killed for your own selfishness.

What a silly statement. For MY selfishness? I think man in general is responsible for their inability to discard of their own rubbish properly, and the councils insistence on bi weekly collections.I know this area rather well as I used to work about 5 minutes from there. These people leave their rubbish bags outside their houses for days on end, so if you are looking for anyone to blame, blame the residents for not keeping their rubbish more secure.
This council is now saying they will have to do a ' limited ' cull, but had one of those residents complained to Bromley Council last week about the fox that Bromley Council is in the spotlight funnily enough one of their Councillors is going to take a bit of action to shut the media up. Charming.
Star first I agreed a door open in mid winter with a baby I already said I thought looks suspicious.
Also although it is stating Bromley, as the person lives in a BR post code. The house is in fact within a London borough council that provide wheelie bins for both rubbish and recycled rubbish and I have never seen very much evidence of rubbish bags outside houses for days on end. The council here provide weekly collection. I can confirm that as it is in the borough I know very well. wink

11 Feb 2013

Quote by flower411
Any other questions you need answered Minx, then please put them in a more easy to read format and not like you have with the quote thing reading like a bit of a puzzle to understand.

That`s pretty rich, coming from the man who demands that everybody answers his own semi-literate ramblings !
What you answering for Minx as well now then? Run along now. :giggle: You need a swinging partner Flower, as it seems you have way too much time on your hands.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Star first I agreed a door open in mid winter with a baby I already said I thought looks suspicious.

Nothing suspicious about it Minx. The latch was broken and they reckon they had reported it. I cannot find any evidence in the media of that but they had contacted the authorities a ' couple ' of times apparently. In this day and age where heating costs are literally going through the roof, why would anyone leave a back door open? Surely if the latch was indeed broken, why not put something heavy against the back door to secure it and to keep the heat in? They were in the house as the baby was upstairs. A few questions I would want answered here, before I could possibly come to a conclusion in my own mind.

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Also although it is stating Bromley, as the person lives in a BR post code. The house is in fact within a London borough council that provide wheelie bins for both rubbish and recycled rubbish and I have never seen very much evidence of rubbish bags outside houses for days on end. The council here provide weekly collection. I can confirm that as it is in the borough I know very well.

Minx I am fully aware that it is Downham which is about 3 miles North of Bromley, that is very easy to find if you know how to search the web, hence the link at the bottom just for you. I used to work in that area not long ago. My ex Mother in law lives just up the road in the place with the Cat. To be honest I even know the road where this attack happened but am not prepared to say the road name. This particular area is dreadful and that is putting it very mildly. Ex council properties brought by Housing Associations, where the area is littered with rubbish. Tell you what Minx....I am going over that way on Thursday, shall I post a couple of pictures here of the kind of rubbish left outside some of the properties there? People here can then make their own judgements as to whether or not the rubbish is a problem or not.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

Star first I agreed a door open in mid winter with a baby I already said I thought looks suspicious.

Nothing suspicious about it Minx. The latch was broken and they reckon they had reported it. I cannot find any evidence in the media of that but they had contacted the authorities a ' couple ' of times apparently. In this day and age where heating costs are literally going through the roof, why would anyone leave a back door open? Surely if the latch was indeed broken, why not put something heavy against the back door to secure it and to keep the heat in? They were in the house as the baby was upstairs. A few questions I would want answered here, before I could possibly come to a conclusion in my own mind.

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Also although it is stating Bromley, as the person lives in a BR post code. The house is in fact within a London borough council that provide wheelie bins for both rubbish and recycled rubbish and I have never seen very much evidence of rubbish bags outside houses for days on end. The council here provide weekly collection. I can confirm that as it is in the borough I know very well.

Minx I am fully aware that it is Downham which is about 3 miles North of Bromley, that is very easy to find if you know how to search the web, hence the link at the bottom just for you. I used to work in that area not long ago. My ex Mother in law lives just up the road in the place with the Cat. To be honest I even know the road where this attack happened but am not prepared to say the road name. This particular area is dreadful and that is putting it very mildly. Ex council properties brought by Housing Associations, where the area is littered with rubbish. Tell you what Minx....I am going over that way on Thursday, shall I post a couple of pictures here of the kind of rubbish left outside some of the properties there? People here can then make their own judgements as to whether or not the rubbish is a problem or not.

Better still Star people can look for themselves and walk the roads if they google Downham Bromley in to google maps and zoom in you can walk the streets and see the green and black wheelie bins for themselves. I would like anyone to see the piles of rubbish you are talking about in Downham for themselves. Yes they are ex council and many are privately owned though the right to buy scheme that was set up years ago. So people can make their own minds up by their own eyes if they wish to do so.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Any other questions you need answered Minx, then please put them in a more easy to read format and not like you have with the quote thing reading like a bit of a puzzle to understand.

That`s pretty rich, coming from the man who demands that everybody answers his own semi-literate ramblings !
What you answering for Minx as well now then? Run along now. :giggle: You need a swinging partner Flower, as it seems you have way too much time on your hands.

Quote by starlightcouple
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.

That must be about the 2nd or 3rd time there has been a need to remind you of what you wrote in the same thread rolleyes

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Better still Star people can look for themselves and walk the roads if they google Downham Bromley in to google maps and zoom in you can walk the streets and see the green and black wheelie bins for themselves. I would like anyone to see the piles of rubbish you are talking about in Downham for themselves. Yes they are ex council and many are privately owned though the right to buy scheme that was set up years ago. So people can make their own minds up by their own eyes if they wish to do so.

You are certainly an expert on the workings of Souff London Minx. Seems you know every borough in that vast expanse. Do you know Clapham at all, or Balham, or what about Streatham? Can you give me the up to date run down on that towns restaurants opening hours please. In your eyes Minx all parts of Souff London are a wonder for all to behold. :bounce:
Minx your kind words about the place that is Downham, proves that you know very little indeed about that area. Next you will be likening it to a village feel with rows and rows of pretty flowers outside on people's window boxes.

:rotflmao:

11 Feb 2013

Quote by GnV
Any other questions you need answered Minx, then please put them in a more easy to read format and not like you have with the quote thing reading like a bit of a puzzle to understand.

That`s pretty rich, coming from the man who demands that everybody answers his own semi-literate ramblings !
What you answering for Minx as well now then? Run along now. :giggle: You need a swinging partner Flower, as it seems you have way too much time on your hands.

Quote by starlightcouple
Resorting to sniping is a good idea the debate is lost.

That must be about the 2nd or 3rd time there has been a need to remind you of what you wrote in the same thread rolleyes

Sorry GnV. I used that example for you as you are not usually a sniper, but was on that occasion. Well it seems that a lot of people on here do it, and with a certain amount of success. Was I sniping there then GnV, or just being factual?
Oh and btw it was the 3rd time. :jagsatwork:

11 Feb 2013

Just as long as you know what you're up to star :grin:

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Better still Star people can look for themselves and walk the roads if they google Downham Bromley in to google maps and zoom in you can walk the streets and see the green and black wheelie bins for themselves. I would like anyone to see the piles of rubbish you are talking about in Downham for themselves.

Minx scroll down to the picture of the car in their back garden.
Nice clean and tidy garden, is your garden harbouring rubbish like this then?

I suppose now your going to say that the rubbish blew into their garden. Do people have rubbish like this in their gardens then Minx? Seems they do in this part of Downham, blimey there is even rubbish in their hedge.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

Better still Star people can look for themselves and walk the roads if they google Downham Bromley in to google maps and zoom in you can walk the streets and see the green and black wheelie bins for themselves. I would like anyone to see the piles of rubbish you are talking about in Downham for themselves. Yes they are ex council and many are privately owned though the right to buy scheme that was set up years ago. So people can make their own minds up by their own eyes if they wish to do so.

You are certainly an expert on the workings of Souff London Minx. Seems you know every borough in that vast expanse. Do you know Clapham at all, or Balham, or what about Streatham? Can you give me the up to date run down on that towns restaurants opening hours please. In your eyes Minx all parts of Souff London are a wonder for all to behold. :bounce:
Minx your kind words about the place that is Downham, proves that you know very little indeed about that area. Next you will be likening it to a village feel with rows and rows of pretty flowers outside on people's window boxes.

:rotflmao:
Living 2 miles away from it makes me no expert as I said people can look for themselves. But it amazing that you yourself living in Thamesmead know the working, people, rubbish, crime and everything else that happens in places that you have never lived. Yet I have for 25 years. Your comment from afar because you drive through. We have had this debate before. Stick to commenting on Thamesmead I wont challenge you then in what you say but I do have a right when you say Dowmham is full of rubbish as I travel through there on a regular basis and know many that live there.
You say what you see, I say what I see simple.
BTW I know clapham although I would never make a judgement on it without living there but driven through it many times. Streatham I know pretty well used to go skating nightclubbing and now have clients there. Balham I don't know well at all. Any more places you would like to ask me about?
I have only lived in the heart of SE London 48 years. Not some remote corner like thamesmead I would much rather live in downham than there BTW.
So what makes you the expect on SE London then?
Working in Bromley and driving through a place once again BTW do you know Bromley is a place that is in Kent, Bromley is also an area that has places like Downham within that does not come under Kent although have BR post codes. Just so you know.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
So what makes you the expect on SE London then?

Minx certainly not an expert, but am not blinkered either. Yes we have done this conversation before, but for the record I have worked in Downham for three years from 2001 to 2004, and my Ex Mother in law lives in Bellingham which if you know Downham then you know Bellingham.
I have known here for over 34 years and she has lived in King Alfred Avenue for over 37 years. I had my wedding reception in Downham Minxy in 1979, so whilst not an ' expert ' on Souff London per se, I know downham and that neck of the woods a bit better than most.
Oh and my Ex Mother in law still lives there to this day. Oh and Bellingham is also a shit hole Minx, just to clarify things.:bounce:

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

So what makes you the expect on SE London then?

Minx certainly not an expert, but am not blinkered either. Yes we have done this conversation before, but for the record I have worked in Downham for three years from 2001 to 2004, and my Ex Mother in law lives in Bellingham which if you know Downham then you know Bellingham.
I have known here for over 34 years and she has lived in King Alfred Avenue for over 37 years. I had my wedding reception in Downham Minxy in 1979, so whilst not an ' expert ' on Souff London per se, I know downham and that neck of the woods a bit better than most.
Oh and my Ex Mother in law still lives there to this day. Oh and Bellingham is also a shit hole Minx, just to clarify things.:bounce:
My comments challenged you on your blame of the local residents I quote your earlier words which were. "These people leave their rubbish bags outside their houses for days on end, so if you are looking for anyone to blame, blame the residents for not keeping their rubbish more secure." I have merely stated this was not a fact. As I have proven if you look as I said on google maps and wonder around the streets you will see wheelie bins everywhere outside houses not rubbish bags bumped for weeks as you said. I think it is disgusting of you to say blame local residents when this is not true in your statement.
I just don't think it is right to blame people that are not doing what you say they are, if I would choose to live in an area of not, I wouldn't blame people for doing something they are not. You can say an area is shit hole that is your choice but to put on a public forum comments that are not true and to blame them for a injured baby I think is disgraceful so if I know your comments are false I shall say so.
You really should stop reading newspaper you are clearly showing signs of the point and blame culture they breed.

11 Feb 2013

Delving in to the number of attacks recorded, it appears there have been 7 attacks by urban foxes in 10 years. Not a great many to get worked up about.
According to the Field Studies Council, urban foxes moved in to urban areas as towns and cities expanded in to theirs. This apparent change came about nearly 80 years ago. Prior to fast food outlets, waste culture and rubbish on the streets.
Also, according to reports from autopsies on the urban fox, their stomach contents contain traditional fox foraging i.e. worms, small birds, eggs, rodents etc. no McDonalds and KFC wrappers in site (maybe the fox is smarter than we give him credit for)
Because they have been here for so long a cull is no good, as the vixens will just produce more offspring. Only total eradication of them will remove them from inner city areas. Then its highly likely that the country fox will move in to replace it!

11 Feb 2013

Star read this does it sink in anywhere?

"Well-meaning residents who leave food out for urban foxes - attracting them to back gardens - have been urged to stop treating the animals as pets after a baby boy had his finger bitten off."
Although would you still wait for a law to be passed?
Or still blame all the neighbours for leaving bags of rubbish out for weeks on end?

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
My comments challenged you on your blame of the local residents I quote your earlier words which were. "These people leave their rubbish bags outside their houses for days on end, so if you are looking for anyone to blame, blame the residents for not keeping their rubbish more secure." I have merely stated this was not a fact. As I have proven if you look as I said on google maps and wonder around the streets you will see wheelie bins everywhere outside houses not rubbish bags bumped for weeks as you said. I think it is disgusting of you to say blame local residents when this is not true in your statement.
I just don't think it is right to blame people that are not doing what you say they are, if I would choose to live in an area of not, I wouldn't blame people for doing something they are not. You can say an area is shit hole that is your choice but to put on a public forum comments that are not true and to blame them for a injured baby I think is disgraceful so if I know your comments are false I shall say so.
You really should stop reading newspaper you are clearly showing signs of the point and blame culture they breed.

Have you any idea Minx where this picture was taken and on what date? Go on.........have a little guess.

The shop kinda gives it away Minx. rotflmao

The year was 2011 Minx and the area? innocent

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Star read this does it sink in anywhere?

"Well-meaning residents who leave food out for urban foxes - attracting them to back gardens - have been urged to stop treating the animals as pets after a baby boy had his finger bitten off."
Although would you still wait for a law to be passed?
Or still blame all the neighbours for leaving bags of rubbish out for weeks on end?

What the heck is your point exactly Minx?
The RSPCA said that statement and according to most on here that organisation is not worth a light. Have I done anything illegal??? SORRY I cannot hear you Minx, shout a tad louder. Nothing illegal and I will continue to do it when the need arises. Fox attacks are rarer than Downham having a lick of paint, and yet all of a sudden the Fox is the biggest menace on the street. Tomorrow people will forget all about the fox and move onto other interesting news like Ashley Cole meeting up with Cheryl for drinkies.
:thumbup:

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Delving in to the number of attacks recorded, it appears there have been 7 attacks by urban foxes in 10 years. Not a great many to get worked up about.

There are more dog attacks every day Rogue. No nothing to get worked up about, and had the family made proper provisions for their latch then we would not be having this debate.

Quote by Rogue_Trader
According to the Field Studies Council, urban foxes moved in to urban areas as towns and cities expanded in to theirs. This apparent change came about nearly 80 years ago. Prior to fast food outlets, waste culture and rubbish on the streets.

What a fantastic point Rogue, and one that I brushed on yesterday. Well according to some on here, there is no rubbish on the streets. The clever fox has a mate to help him open up them big council rubbish bins, whilst he has a good go at the waste food contained within it. lol

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Also, according to reports from autopsies on the urban fox, their stomach contents contain traditional fox foraging i.e. worms, small birds, eggs, rodents etc. no McDonalds and KFC wrappers in site (maybe the fox is smarter than we give him credit for)

Or just hates the throw away shit that humans eat nowadays from eateries like Maccy Dees etc. rolleyes

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Because they have been here for so long a cull is no good, as the vixens will just produce more offspring. Only total eradication of them will remove them from inner city areas. Then its highly likely that the country fox will move in to replace it!

The inner city fox has moved here because it is an easy food source. Not from people feeding them in their gardens, as that would feed about a 100 of them, no people's now throw away food culture is mainly to blame. When I was a kid I hardly ever saw a fox in my Souff London inner city home, yet now they are everywhere.....I wonder why.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

My comments challenged you on your blame of the local residents I quote your earlier words which were. "These people leave their rubbish bags outside their houses for days on end, so if you are looking for anyone to blame, blame the residents for not keeping their rubbish more secure." I have merely stated this was not a fact. As I have proven if you look as I said on google maps and wonder around the streets you will see wheelie bins everywhere outside houses not rubbish bags bumped for weeks as you said. I think it is disgusting of you to say blame local residents when this is not true in your statement.
I just don't think it is right to blame people that are not doing what you say they are, if I would choose to live in an area of not, I wouldn't blame people for doing something they are not. You can say an area is shit hole that is your choice but to put on a public forum comments that are not true and to blame them for a injured baby I think is disgraceful so if I know your comments are false I shall say so.
You really should stop reading newspaper you are clearly showing signs of the point and blame culture they breed.

Have you any idea Minx where this picture was taken and on what date? Go on.........have a little guess.

The shop kinda gives it away Minx. rotflmao

The year was 2011 Minx and the area? innocent

6, Adenmore Road, Catford under the railway arches by catford Bridge station by any chance?
There are no houses down there only unused railway arches a great place for fly tripping and that has been a problem in many areas.
This isn't even Downham and hardly outside people houses if others would like to look on google maps be my guest.
Again Star I have proved you are misguiding people. Anymore you would like me to prove where you are wrong?

11 Feb 2013

Foxes will be the least of your problems with that lot, now rats on the other hand...

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
6, Adenmore Road, Catford under the railway arches by catford Bridge station by any chance?
There are no houses down there only unused railway arches a great place for fly tripping and that has been a problem in many areas.
This isn't even Downham and hardly outside people houses if others would like to look on google maps be my guest.
Again Star I have proved you are misguiding people. Anymore you would like me to prove where you are wrong?

Sorry Minx you are wrong. Why would I be showing a picture of a railway arch in Catford? Do keep up Minx. rolleyes

Why would there be a shop in an area of no houses or other shops?
I shall leave it until Thursday I reckon and see what the rubbish situation is like there now, when I go past it, would not even drive through Catford now Minx without locking my doors.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Foxes will be the least of your problems with that lot, now rats on the other hand...

Actually Rogue is has been cleaned up and there are plans to redevelop that area as star admitted it was taken in 2011 we are now in 2013. wink

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
Foxes will be the least of your problems with that lot, now rats on the other hand...

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Actually Rogue is has been cleaned up and there are plans to redevelop that area as star admitted it was taken in 2011 we are now in 2013.

Oh God does love a trier Minx.:giggle:
Plans Minx? Are they looking at holding the next Olympics near there then? No? Oh right no redevelopment there then, well not in the next twenty years anyway. Just accept Minx that large chunks of Souff London are in reality just hovels and has been in need of huge regeneration for over 40 years. Certainly the areas we have been mentioning today that is. :wink:

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

6, Adenmore Road, Catford under the railway arches by catford Bridge station by any chance?
There are no houses down there only unused railway arches a great place for fly tripping and that has been a problem in many areas.
This isn't even Downham and hardly outside people houses if others would like to look on google maps be my guest.
Again Star I have proved you are misguiding people. Anymore you would like me to prove where you are wrong?

Sorry Minx you are wrong. Why would I be showing a picture of a railway arch in Catford? Do keep up Minx. rolleyes

Why would there be a shop in an area of no houses or other shops?
I shall leave it until Thursday I reckon and see what the rubbish situation is like there now, when I go past it, would not even drive through Catford now Minx without locking my doors.
For those that would like to look on google earth and type in 6 Adenmore Road Catford can walk down and decide for themselves. So I shall leave it to others to decide if it is or not. wink

11 Feb 2013

Of course they can Minx. lol

11 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

6, Adenmore Road, Catford under the railway arches by catford Bridge station by any chance?
There are no houses down there only unused railway arches a great place for fly tripping and that has been a problem in many areas.
This isn't even Downham and hardly outside people houses if others would like to look on google maps be my guest.
Again Star I have proved you are misguiding people. Anymore you would like me to prove where you are wrong?

Sorry Minx you are wrong. Why would I be showing a picture of a railway arch in Catford? Do keep up Minx. rolleyes

Why would there be a shop in an area of no houses or other shops?
I shall leave it until Thursday I reckon and see what the rubbish situation is like there now, when I go past it, would not even drive through Catford now Minx without locking my doors.

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx

6, Adenmore Road, Catford under the railway arches by catford Bridge station by any chance?
There are no houses down there only unused railway arches a great place for fly tripping and that has been a problem in many areas.
This isn't even Downham and hardly outside people houses if others would like to look on google maps be my guest.
Again Star I have proved you are misguiding people. Anymore you would like me to prove where you are wrong?

Sorry Minx you are wrong. Why would I be showing a picture of a railway arch in Catford? Do keep up Minx. rolleyes

Why would there be a shop in an area of no houses or other shops?
I shall leave it until Thursday I reckon and see what the rubbish situation is like there now, when I go past it, would not even drive through Catford now Minx without locking my doors.
Star just a tip from someone that lives near where you talk about and can prove you wrong when you google fly tipping in Downham and try to find the worse picture you can find to justify your claims about Downham residents isn't in fact a different place altogether which is in fact Catford to try and prove a point. It just confirms you don't know what you are talking about and can discourage any evidence you try and find to try and prove you know what you are talking about and makes you look rather foolish. rotflmao

11 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx

6, Adenmore Road, Catford under the railway arches by catford Bridge station by any chance?
There are no houses down there only unused railway arches a great place for fly tripping and that has been a problem in many areas.
This isn't even Downham and hardly outside people houses if others would like to look on google maps be my guest.
Again Star I have proved you are misguiding people. Anymore you would like me to prove where you are wrong?

Sorry Minx you are wrong. Why would I be showing a picture of a railway arch in Catford? Do keep up Minx. rolleyes

Why would there be a shop in an area of no houses or other shops?
I shall leave it until Thursday I reckon and see what the rubbish situation is like there now, when I go past it, would not even drive through Catford now Minx without locking my doors.
Star just a tip from someone that lives near where you talk about and can prove you wrong when you google fly tipping in Downham and try to find the worse picture you can find to justify your claims about Downham residents isn't in fact a different place altogether which is in fact Catford to try and prove a point. It just confirms you don't know what you are talking about and can discourage any evidence you try and find to try and prove you know what you are talking about and makes you look rather foolish. rotflmao

What borough does both Catford and Downham fall under?

11 Feb 2013

I don't know the area at all, in fact I doubt I've ever been there. However I am more than aware that fly tipping does happen, rubbish bags are left out to rip open, bins overflow and that our streets in general can be an untidy feeding and breeding ground for a whole host of creatures.
I don't live in utopia, but I do live in a nice part of the City. It is easy for me to produce many nice pictures of clean streets straight from the internet, but too find areas rife with litter and dumped paraphernalia wouldn't take me too long. It's a fact of life that it exists, and that the council do what they can to stay on top of things. Perhaps those of you living in London would like to use site to report and monitor problems in your area.