Urban fox attack

12 Feb 2013

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Star when has anyone said you are being bad for feeding the foxes?
I have not seen anyone say that either I myself haven't.
You should stop putting words in everyone mouths

I am in my eyes doing nothing wrong at all. I am sorry but I on so many levels think the ' experts ' know less than my cat does. These experts as I have said already, change their minds like the weather.
My little couple of foxes get fed a few little nibbles a couple of times a week. When there are little cubs around I may decided to give the Mother a bit more, so as to help the survival of her cubs. I am not bothered what others may say, I do it as I believe I am helping my little inner city foxes. They do me no harm and are just trying to eek out an existence alongside those other tossers........man.
If I can help them to do this then I am happy to help.

Quote by Theladyisaminx
I would never feed a fox or any wild animal

Have you never fed the birds then Minx? What about the ducks or Swans? Are these not wild animals? Or are they somehow different?

12 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Have you never fed the birds then Minx? What about the ducks or Swans? Are these not wild animals? Or are they somehow different?

Very different indeed, those birds are not predator, and one could say most are small enough not to cause you or others harm if encouraged into your back garden.
But it is not your self you put at risk, it is your neighbour's in the surrounding area with very small children that you put at risk.
That is some thing each one of us must weigh up in our minds and make an informed decision on, a risk assessment if you like on our responsibility's to the wider community

12 Feb 2013

Quote by Rogue_Trader
I cant see it helping their cause
I think hunting has a place in this century and the next, but that is for another thread

I hope it won't help their cause at all, as I don't feel hunting has any place in a civilised country such as ours, but as you say that's for another thread.
If I may Rogue-trader I shall repond to this in the "RSPCA court controversy" shortly thread, as that is riddled with hunting comment lol

12 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Have you never fed the birds then Minx? What about the ducks or Swans? Are these not wild animals? Or are they somehow different?

Quote by Bluefish2009
Very different indeed, those birds are not predator, and one could say most are small enough not to cause you or others harm if encouraged into your back garden.

Blue is a bird that fly's in the sky out there in the world we live in, a wild animal or not>?? It is only different because that feeds your argument to say so. A wild bird causes all sorts of mess and was that not the reason people are now banned from feeding the Pigeons in Trafalgar Square?

Quote by Bluefish2009
But it is not your self you put at risk, it is your neighbour's in the surrounding area with very small children that you put at risk.

What a complete load of old cobblers Blue. Foxes have been around for.......ermmm.......a thousand years ya reckon? How many attacks on small children Blue in that time? You are more at risk of falling down a mountain with Victoria Wood wearing stockings and suspenders, as you are of having a child attacked by a fox.:bounce:

Quote by Bluefish2009
That is some thing each one of us must weigh up in our minds and make an informed decision on, a risk assessment if you like on our responsibility's to the wider community

Where Blue do you get this rubbish from? I really like you Blue, I usually think your comments on here are reasoned well thought out, but this time you have been on the funny tobacco my friend. Coming from someone who openly supports the killing of foxes by rabid dogs, hunting in a pack and to rip a fox apart whilst still alive, your comments hold no foundation at all.

12 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple
Blue is a bird that fly's in the sky out there in the world we live in, a wild animal or not>?? It is only different because that feeds your argument to say so. A wild bird causes all sorts of mess and was that not the reason people are now banned from feeding the Pigeons in Trafalgar Square?

Most birds are not large enough to cause damage, so yes the difference is massive, a few do cause people a little panic though at times, geese, swans, gulls etc. Banned from feeding pigeons you say, very wise move, lets extend this sensible move to other creatures

Quote by starlightcouple
What a complete load of old cobblers Blue. Foxes have been around for.......ermmm.......a thousand years ya reckon? How many attacks on small children Blue in that time? You are more at risk of falling down a mountain with Victoria Wood wearing stockings and suspenders, as you are of having a child attacked by a fox.:bounce:

Firstly foxes habits have changed in more recent years, this is plain to see by the sign and rise of these attacks. This is some thing we should take into account I feel. Risk is a difficult thing to measure, I bet you would not risk trotting that one out in front of the little boys family for a day or two. lol

On top of that does the infrequency make it less important? I think not

Quote by starlightcouple
Where Blue do you get this rubbish from? I really like you Blue, I usually think your comments on here are reasoned well thought out, but this time you have been on the funny tobacco my friend. Coming from someone who openly supports the killing of foxes by rabid dogs, hunting in a pack and to rip a fox apart whilst still alive, your comments hold no foundation at all.

I am pleased you like me, the feeling is mutual. You do seam a little obsessed by this hunting business and the rabid dogs though. You may relax a little as the hounds are not rabid. However, I am not sure that my support of this excellent method of fox control should render my comments foundation-less wink

12 Feb 2013

Quote by flower411

Have you never fed the birds then Minx? What about the ducks or Swans? Are these not wild animals? Or are they somehow different?

Quote by Bluefish2009
Very different indeed, those birds are not predator, and one could say most are small enough not to cause you or others harm if encouraged into your back garden.

Blue is a bird that fly's in the sky out there in the world we live in, a wild animal or not>?? It is only different because that feeds your argument to say so. A wild bird causes all sorts of mess and was that not the reason people are now banned from feeding the Pigeons in Trafalgar Square?

Quote by Bluefish2009
But it is not your self you put at risk, it is your neighbour's in the surrounding area with very small children that you put at risk.

What a complete load of old cobblers Blue. Foxes have been around for.......ermmm.......a thousand years ya reckon? How many attacks on small children Blue in that time? You are more at risk of falling down a mountain with Victoria Wood wearing stockings and suspenders, as you are of having a child attacked by a fox.:bounce:

Quote by Bluefish2009
That is some thing each one of us must weigh up in our minds and make an informed decision on, a risk assessment if you like on our responsibility's to the wider community

Where Blue do you get this rubbish from? I really like you Blue, I usually think your comments on here are reasoned well thought out, but this time you have been on the funny tobacco my friend. Coming from someone who openly supports the killing of foxes by rabid dogs, hunting in a pack and to rip a fox apart whilst still alive, your comments hold no foundation at all.
No doubt you`ve been toking on the same funny tobacco !!! There isn`t any rabies in this country .
And that means ?
Yep you guessed it ! lol

Your comments hold no foundation at all ...
I know your a bit silly, but I am sure even you realise the joke there......maybe you don't.

12 Feb 2013

Quote by Bluefish2009
I am pleased you like me, the feeling is mutual. You do seam a little obsessed by this hunting business and the rabid dogs though. You may relax a little as the hounds are not rabid. However, I am not sure that my support of this excellent method of fox control should render my comments foundation-less

Blue I am aware that the dogs are not rabid, maybe the huntsmen are ? lol

There is another member who takes what I say to such a literal degree. I wonder if I said it was raining cats and dogs, he would look out of his window and reply it is not. blink

12 Feb 2013

Quote by starlightcouple

I am pleased you like me, the feeling is mutual. You do seam a little obsessed by this hunting business and the rabid dogs though. You may relax a little as the hounds are not rabid. However, I am not sure that my support of this excellent method of fox control should render my comments foundation-less

Blue I am aware that the dogs are not rabid, maybe the huntsmen are ? lol

There is another member who takes what I say to such a literal degree. I wonder if I said it was raining cats and dogs, he would look out of his window and reply it is not. blink

You could have a point, I have met a few huntsmen I would not pee on if they were on fire :thumbup:

15 Feb 2013

I have avoided this thread since it started, I get into trouble with threads like this because it is one of those subjects where my heart rules my head and I can get very passionate about the subject (Falklands, Soldiers, Racism you know what I mean)
But
There are a couple of points I would like to make whist neither being publcaly supportive or against what happens to foxes.
Making food available to foxes for whatever reason is not helping the situation but not creating it either, foxes as has been said are scavengers and will find food in urban areas with or without assistance from scraps left out deliberately, the amount of food available near bins, outside takeaways thrown from cars, via our willingness to use our urban areas as rubbish tips is more than enough to keep them well fed, that is why they turned to the towns in the first place.
Pets (mostly dogs) have been responsible for more infant injuries and deaths for centuries over the dangers from wild animals.
Culling might be a cure, I personally doubt it but cleanliness might have more affect, if there is nothing for them to eat they will once again move on and find another source of food.
The government should introduce a new tax on houses whose gardens are visited by foxes (no reason for that but it's a good excuse for a new tax)
Why are people who support animal rights or immigration or anti racism, or the rights of man do-gooders ? does that mean that those against those things are do-badders ? do you consider yourself a do-gooder or a do-badder person because of your beliefs ?
and one last thing, would foxmeat be an improvement to the current ingredients of processed food lol