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Sex God
Quote by starlightcouple
well with all the talk of teachers not doing there jobs to a good standard, they now decide to do this.
a national strike and right in the middle of kids exams. charming.
money over education of kids. is it any wonder standards are falling and as usual the kids will be the ones to suffer. so teachers have decided it is a pension over there pupils education, what a disgusting way to behave.
Hang on... all the news bulletins I've watched today have made a point of saying NOT before the summer, because of exams.
But hey, maybe the Torygraph knows something the BBC, Channel 4 etc don't
Sex God
Quote by noladreams
Nothing to do with literacy, or am I misreading?
I'd also argue it's nothing to do with teachers either, given that the articles you've highlighted are about exam boards.
As you say, nothing to do with literacy
But it is to do with teachers and perhaps a failing of our education system
An undercover investigation by The Telegraph revealed how exam boards are 'cheating' by helping teachers at secretive coaching seminars which cost hundreds of pounds to attend.
Sex God
Are any of these untruths?
One in six working Londoners is functionally illiterate
25 per cent who are leaving, at the age of 11, unable properly to read or write.
One in six working Londoners is functionally illiterate
25 per cent who are leaving, at the age of 11, unable properly to read or write.
Quote by Ben_Minx
So nobody is gonna respond to the fact that the OP was based on misinformation and disingenuiousness?
No I thought not.
why would anyone ben? as your above comment is once again based on your misinterpretations.
plus also seeing as you dont respond to my threads, maybe others are just simply deciding not to respond to yours
on many occasions i would not blame them to be honest. :bounce: Quote by starlightcouple
Hang on... all the news bulletins I've watched today have made a point of saying NOT before the summer, because of exams.
But hey, maybe the Torygraph knows something the BBC, Channel 4 etc don't
what about the IMPARTIAL bbc then nola? will that do it for you? :doh:
"The date set for the strike, the ATL president Andy Brown says, has been picked to "avoid external exams and important school and college events so that any strike causes as little disruption as possible to children's education"."
Quote by MartnJewl
"The date set for the strike, the ATL president Andy Brown says, has been picked to "avoid external exams and important school and college events so that any strike causes as little disruption as possible to children's education"."
ah right well mr andy brown would say that, wouldn't he ?
and of course would it not be ok to say that any disruption in a childs education by strike action is a disgusting act by teachers? but as long as it is only a little disruption
that is like being run over by a car and the driver stating that you only have a broken leg, as it could be worse you could have died. :twisted:
Star, you made a claim that teachers were going to affect pupils exams by their strike. You then posted a link to the BBC news website to try and support this claim. Unfortunatly the link you provided clearly states that the date set for any strike is the 30th June. After exams have finished.
Sex God
This could clean up the debate a little
Sex God
Quote by MartnJewl
This could clean up the debate a little
So is it one in three as the OP suggests or less than one in five in your link?
Make what you will of it.
“One million (or one in six) working adults in the capital cannot read with confidence “
So far as we are able to tell this figure is sound, albeit based on a national rate and rounded up slightly. The one in six ratio is highlighted in a statistical briefing from the National Literary Trust which stated: “One in six people in the UK struggle with literacy.”
Fortunately since this is footnoted we can trace the figure back to a 2003 study for the Government which estimated that in England: “5.2 million adults (16% of the population) at Entry level 3 or below”
So, taking this admittedly slightly dated figure, and applying it to the 5,2 million working age adults (based on 2009 estimates for London) we get a figure of a little over 830,000. Not quite a million but not drastically far off.
Key findings include:
Literacy
5.2 million adults (16% of the population) at Entry level 3 or below
17.8 million adults (56% of the population) below Level 2
22% of adults in the North East have Entry Level literacy compared with
12% in the South East
Numeracy
6.8 million adults (21% of the population) at Entry level 2 or below
23.8 million adults(75% of the population) below Level 2
54% of adults in the North East have Entry Level numeracy compared with 41% in the South East'.
The results are available on the searchable Readwriteplus /readwriteplus_skillsforlifesurvey/
Sexpert
I remember being told that the reason for so many base 12 numeric systems (Dozens/Gross, Old money, months, hours, inches) was 10 fingers and 2 feet. I wasn't hugely convinced by this one. Looking on the internet (and it just MUST be true if it is on the internet ) there does seem to be a better explanation.
Twelve Months in a year come from the Lunar cycles. Which must have suggested to the earlier mathematicians that this was a good natural base.
Looking further at this document there are twelve phalanges (finger bones) in a hand. Pointing at your fingers with one hand and counting the straight bit between your fingers gives 12 possible numbers. Get the other hand involved to give a gross ......... It looks like the Romans did this which then inflicted the 'Times tables' on 20th century Britain.
This is again only an anecdotal explanation but 'One handed counting' does seem quite compelling for the use of base 12 in so many numeric systems.
) there does seem to be a better explanation.Twelve Months in a year come from the Lunar cycles. Which must have suggested to the earlier mathematicians that this was a good natural base.
Looking further at this document there are twelve phalanges (finger bones) in a hand. Pointing at your fingers with one hand and counting the straight bit between your fingers gives 12 possible numbers. Get the other hand involved to give a gross ......... It looks like the Romans did this which then inflicted the 'Times tables' on 20th century Britain.
This is again only an anecdotal explanation but 'One handed counting' does seem quite compelling for the use of base 12 in so many numeric systems.
Sexpert
My understanding of Mathematics is that '7 times 9 equals 63' would indeed mean 7 X 9 = 63. But like poetry and quotes my memory for 'by rote' learning can be vague...........
Faced with the possibility of a physical assault either with a piece of chalk, or a board rubber (assumes the PE teacher was standing in for the Maths teacher) I did come up with a solution. In this case the Nines are easy, multiply by 10 by 'adding' a 0 .... 70 and subtract one lot of 7 = 63.
Other multiplications can be done by also knowing that '7 times 9 equals 63' means
'9 + 9 + 9 + 9 + 9 + 9 +9' = 63. So faced with a more tricky one like '7 times 8 equals 56' now then I could just take off another 7 i.e. '70 -7 -7' = 56. But again speed is of the essence, the board rubber is off the 'desk' and in the hand, oh yes, I did also learn the squares ... 144.
'7 X 7 ' + 7 == '7 X 8' = 56...... Johnson Stanley Stanley's pitiful scream of pain washes across the ears of the class. Like Newtons third law, once something starts moving in the hand of a PE teacher it isn't going to stop. Why waste the original effort? Like everybody else having a triple barreled name is enough to print target on the forehead and particularly when seen through the eyes of a narcissistic sadist.
The names of the (probably long dead) innocent have been protected. Also apologies for the assumption that any PE teachers were: thick sadists; with no home life; a car that could be started with a tuppenny bit and dumped 15 miles away in Upper Heaton; and; a predilection for slapping the bare bits of anybody who didn't 'go commando' for 'sports'.
Faced with the possibility of a physical assault either with a piece of chalk, or a board rubber (assumes the PE teacher was standing in for the Maths teacher) I did come up with a solution. In this case the Nines are easy, multiply by 10 by 'adding' a 0 .... 70 and subtract one lot of 7 = 63.
Other multiplications can be done by also knowing that '7 times 9 equals 63' means
'9 + 9 + 9 + 9 + 9 + 9 +9' = 63. So faced with a more tricky one like '7 times 8 equals 56' now then I could just take off another 7 i.e. '70 -7 -7' = 56. But again speed is of the essence, the board rubber is off the 'desk' and in the hand, oh yes, I did also learn the squares ... 144.
'7 X 7 ' + 7 == '7 X 8' = 56...... Johnson Stanley Stanley's pitiful scream of pain washes across the ears of the class. Like Newtons third law, once something starts moving in the hand of a PE teacher it isn't going to stop. Why waste the original effort? Like everybody else having a triple barreled name is enough to print target on the forehead and particularly when seen through the eyes of a narcissistic sadist.
The names of the (probably long dead) innocent have been protected. Also apologies for the assumption that any PE teachers were: thick sadists; with no home life; a car that could be started with a tuppenny bit and dumped 15 miles away in Upper Heaton; and; a predilection for slapping the bare bits of anybody who didn't 'go commando' for 'sports'.
Sexpert
Scientific Evidence can only support a theory. It doesn't prove something to be true, ultimately it can only prove that something isn't true.
Aside from the philosophical point above I haven't seen much 'scientific evidence' either way, supporting the original post, or not, nor indeed my anecdotal observation that standards of GCE examinations are easier now then previously.
If you can find something with the more usual lack of bias, controls, assumptions, etc. you might be able to quote this as 'scientific evidence'. Other than this you just seem to be trolling?
Aside from the philosophical point above I haven't seen much 'scientific evidence' either way, supporting the original post, or not, nor indeed my anecdotal observation that standards of GCE examinations are easier now then previously.
If you can find something with the more usual lack of bias, controls, assumptions, etc. you might be able to quote this as 'scientific evidence'. Other than this you just seem to be trolling?
Sex God
Quote by Ben_Minx
So nobody is gonna respond to the fact that the OP was based on misinformation and disingenuiousness?
No I thought not.
from your own link link ben
Over a third of all children who leave London’s state primary
schools at the age of 11 still have difficulties with reading
im glad you agree
thanks ben :thumbup::thumbup:
Quote by MartnJewl
Star, you made a claim that teachers were going to affect pupils exams by their strike. You then posted a link to the BBC news website to try and support this claim. Unfortunatly the link you provided clearly states that the date set for any strike is the 30th June. After exams have finished.
that is very true mart but, as i have already pointed out above there will still be disruption to pupils. i always thought that teaching was a vocation? it is very clearly about money and making sure that once again the public sector get a better deal.
even if we beleeve that there will be no disruption to pupils through this years exams, after all that we see and read can you really beleeve that comment 100%? our politicains lie, and the unions lie, they all lie. being a teacher from where i am sitting does not seem that they get a bad deal to be honest. they get more holidays than any other sector except of course a politician does. the starting salary of a new teacher is not that bad to be fair. yes not a job that i would want to do but i am sure that a teacher would not want to do my job or be a milkman. all of whome do not get anywhere near 13 weeks a year off.
vocation for a teacher? not a chance.
17 teachers sacked for incompetence over the last decade. we surely all know that there are many many incompetent teachers out there in the classroom every day. so how come only 17 have lost there jobs? many reesons for that question but ultimately those bad teachers could be in your local school damaging more childrens futures.
Sex God
Quote by Robert400andKay
Scientific Evidence can only support a theory. It doesn't prove something to be true, ultimately it can only prove that something isn't true.
Aside from the philosophical point above I haven't seen much 'scientific evidence' either way, supporting the original post, or not, nor indeed my anecdotal observation that standards of GCE examinations are easier now then previously.
If you can find something with the more usual lack of bias, controls, assumptions, etc. you might be able to quote this as 'scientific evidence'. Other than this you just seem to be trolling?
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it has to be said there is some amazing things on this web site, both good and bad. it also seems to have a good balance to it.
as it is a trust some may not believe it's contents, but i have read this web site for about an hour and there are some great finds and some very interesting facts it would seem.
as it is a trust some may not believe it's contents, but i have read this web site for about an hour and there are some great finds and some very interesting facts it would seem.
Blimey you really will try anything to muddy the debate and avoid discussion. I think I shall pop you on the ignore list.
from your own link link ben
im glad you agree
thanks ben :thumbup::thumbup:
Quote by Lizaleanrob
So nobody is gonna respond to the fact that the OP was based on misinformation and disingenuiousness?
No I thought not.
from your own link link ben
Over a third of all children who leave London’s state primary
schools at the age of 11 still have difficulties with reading
im glad you agree
thanks ben :thumbup::thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by Ben_Minx
Blimey you really will try anything to muddy the debate and avoid discussion. I think I shall pop you on the ignore list.
:thumbup:
thanks ben does this mean your going to troll elsewhere
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: Sex God
Quote by Ben_Minx
Haha, I bet ya cant buy a book for miles.
Thats my next thread, price of books has shot through the roof
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
Haha, I bet ya cant buy a book for miles.
Thats my next thread, price of books has shot through the roof
in your experience are they cheaper or more expencive in rural areas
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
Haha, I bet ya cant buy a book for miles.
Thats my next thread, price of books has shot through the roof
in your experience are they cheaper or more expencive in rural areas
I will leave that for the OFT to dicide :lol:
I will be crossing you off my Christmas card list
