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Which of these should have been suspended ?

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Self defence by the kid getting punched. Thats what it looked like to me.
Dave_Notts
I don't know what the school policy is.........but it does seem unfair to suspend the bullied kid for self defence
Dave_Notts
My son was bullied at primary school by a child 3 years older than he.
One day my son flipped, chinned the bully and dragged him round the playground by his feet until he begged him to stop. As this was an unplanned incident it occurred outside the headmasters study who witnessed the events unfold.
As a result of this event my son was suspended and sent for evaluation by a psychiatrist, and the bully was left unpunished.
The upside was that the psychiatrist concluded that my sons behaviour was " a perfectly natural reaction to repeated bullying" and he gained a reputation for being a bit of a hard nut and was never bullied again.
I sympathise with anyone who is subjected t bullying and then snaps.
This kind of thing really gets my goat tbh. There has been the suggestion that the department for education will give headteachers the power to exclude, without having to go through the buearacy they do now. HOWEVER, and this is the one that makes me chuckle, IF they exclude then the responsibility will be put with them to find alternative provision for the child they exclude!!!
My question is, why isnt it put back to the parents of these little cretins to find alternative provision for their children?
I cant stand bullys, but understand that beneath it lies insecurity. However tell that to the poor victims that have to find the strength to go into school each day and face them.
Rant over, tils x
Quote by Tillie
This kind of thing really gets my goat tbh. There has been the suggestion that the department for education will give headteachers the power to exclude, without having to go through the buearacy they do now. HOWEVER, and this is the one that makes me chuckle, IF they exclude then the responsibility will be put with them to find alternative provision for the child they exclude!!!
My question is, why isnt it put back to the parents of these little cretins to find alternative provision for their children?
I cant stand bullys, but understand that beneath it lies insecurity. However tell that to the poor victims that have to find the strength to go into school each day and face them.
Rant over, tils x

Quite simply most of them wouldn't bother. Your assuming most parents are good parents which they are not.
I do have some insight into this field. From policy I know I am sure the schools view would be the actions of the bully is not tolerable but also the action of the bullied kid is not tolerable either. There is no way you are ever going to get a school to condone one child smashing another on to the floor regardless of the prior situation. The correct action for the bullied kid is basically to grass as far as the school is concerned lol NO school is ever going to say that violence is the answer in any situation.
To clarify on e thing the above is my understanding of a lot of schools policy's not my own personal view wink
Quote by Ben_welshminx
My son was bullied at primary school by a child 3 years older than he.
One day my son flipped, chinned the bully and dragged him round the playground by his feet until he begged him to stop. As this was an unplanned incident it occurred outside the headmasters study who witnessed the events unfold.
As a result of this event my son was suspended and sent for evaluation by a psychiatrist, and the bully was left unpunished.
The upside was that the psychiatrist concluded that my sons behaviour was " a perfectly natural reaction to repeated bullying" and he gained a reputation for being a bit of a hard nut and was never bullied again.
I sympathise with anyone who is subjected t bullying and then snaps.

Similar happend to my son. Continually bullied, HE was 'managed' (ie blamed) by the school. To the point of being threatened with being sent to the 'place' where they send the uneducable kids who have such behavioural problems they can barely colour in a picture at 15. He left school with 11 GCSE's half of them A or A*. But the school had a policy on bullying so it was alright. The worst bullies were the teachers in the school - as they silently colluded with the bully-kids by not stopping the assaults. The only 'problem' they could see, or were interested in, was the one that made their lives complicated - my son crying and flying into rages after yet another physical/verbal assualt.
The solution was that he grew 6 inches one year, took up Judo and decked a couple of the worst bullies. Because of the Judo he could do it without looking like he had actually done anything.
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The worst bullies were the teachers in the school - as they silently colluded with the bully-kids by not stopping the assaults. The only 'problem' they could see, or were interested in, was the one that made their lives complicated - my son crying and flying into rages after yet another physical/verbal assualt.

OMG that is so so true! been living it for the last couple of years with the net result for my children is that its not a matter of education at school, just survival. And that's not an exaggeration.
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The worst bullies were the teachers in the school - as they silently colluded with the bully-kids by not stopping the assaults. The only 'problem' they could see, or were interested in, was the one that made their lives complicated - my son crying and flying into rages after yet another physical/verbal assualt.

OMG that is so so true! been living it for the last couple of years with the net result for my children is that its not a matter of education at school, just survival. And that's not an exaggeration.
seems it`s a national thing then
we had similar problems with our daughter till a friend of her`s caught an episode on her camera, of teachers just watching and doing nothing
we put in a complaint first which we was told the bullying incident didn`t happen ?
we then attended the school with the video and the local MP
light blue touch paper
the result was we removed our daughter and the education authority paid her fees for a local private school wink
shame.... modern teachers have the morals of an estate agent it seems