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Quote by starlightcouple
Oh and btw..........I have been thinking out of the box, but I still state cyclists are a bloody nuisance and a bloody danger to themselves and other road users.

Yes, I have seen your version of thinking outside the box on this and other topics over the last couple of years................
If you don't like it, don't agree with it or don't understand it - BAN IT. You don't want to to do it so therefore no one else should be allowed.
Fortunately, society has moved on since the Middle Ages.
Quote by Too Hot

Oh and btw..........I have been thinking out of the box, but I still state cyclists are a bloody nuisance and a bloody danger to themselves and other road users.

Yes, I have seen your version of thinking outside the box on this and other topics over the last couple of years................
If you don't like it, don't agree with it or don't understand it - BAN IT. You don't want to to do it so therefore no one else should be allowed.
Fortunately, society has moved on since the Middle Ages.
Firstly I have not been here as long as that. Secondly I am the kind of person that only wants to ban things that either serve very little purpose, or inflict injury. Whilst a car can of course inflict injury it does serve a very good purpose. The cycle serves very little purpose. If you want to cycle in safety there is a gym near you. wink
Banning things on most occasions are usually a measure to help the human race protect itself. I agree with the banning of hunting for whales or the banning of a badger cull. So not everything I would like to see banned is because I do not understand it. There is nothing to understand about cycles. They are a hazard to themselves and other road users, and contribute nothing at all, and the myth that they are the saving of the planet is frankly a huge loss leader in the debate stakes, as there is not a shred of evidence to say they save anything.
Quote by starlightcouple

Oh and btw..........I have been thinking out of the box, but I still state cyclists are a bloody nuisance and a bloody danger to themselves and other road users.

Yes, I have seen your version of thinking outside the box on this and other topics over the last couple of years................
If you don't like it, don't agree with it or don't understand it - BAN IT. You don't want to to do it so therefore no one else should be allowed.
Fortunately, society has moved on since the Middle Ages.
Firstly I have not been here as long as that. Secondly I am the kind of person that only wants to ban things that either serve very little purpose, or inflict injury. Whilst a car can of course inflict injury it does serve a very good purpose. The cycle serves very little purpose. If you want to cycle in safety there is a gym near you. wink
Star how can you say cycles serve little purpose?
There are 2 bike sheds where I work and evey day they are full to over flowing, the people who ride to work can cetainly find a use for a bike.
Plus why would anyone want to be in a gym when there are miles of lovely country side to ride through?
Quote by mrs-bmw
Plus why would anyone want to be in a gym when there are miles of lovely country side to ride through?

Because there are no cars ready to knock you off in the gym. Plus in my local gym there are tv's and all sorts to look at, especially last time when there was a young lady bending over slightly to my left in the tightest white shorts I have ever seen. lol
Don't get that in the open countryside, only irate car drivers shaking their fists at the general public on cycles who think they are Wiggins himself.:bounce: in their multi coloured lycra tops. :lol:
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon
Quote by starlightcouple

...Plus in my local gym there are tv's and all sorts to look at, especially last time when there was a young lady bending over slightly to my left in the tightest white shorts I have ever seen. lol ...

So was that a young lady in tight Lycra shorts, or a TV? Inquiring minds need to know? :lol:
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

Predictability is also a word that can be found out there.:notes:
Quote by Robert400andKay
So was that a young lady in tight Lycra shorts, or a TV? Inquiring minds need to know? lol

This was a young lady that frequents the gym rather often. Very tight tops, tiny little shorts and great legs. Doing some ' stretching ' exercise right in my view. Now whilst I am jogging on my running machine there, it is wonderful having my I pod plugged into the machine and listening to great music, whilst appreciating great views also. Not the same as open countryside I agree but much more therapeutic. rotflmao
The advanced training for two wheeled road users devotes a lot of time to "defensive" riding. This involves a lot of positioning which I am sure is where the "weaving" complaints come from.
Bicycles are essential transport for a lot of people. For young people seeking work, a bicycle can be the difference between working and not.
Quote by Ben_Minx
The advanced training for two wheeled road users devotes a lot of time to "defensive" riding. This involves a lot of positioning which I am sure is where the "weaving" complaints come from.

Are you being serious? Oh right a joke....got you. :laughabove: rolleyes
Quote by Ben_Minx
Bicycles are essential transport for a lot of people. For young people seeking work, a bicycle can be the difference between working and not.

Well Ian Duncan Smith is saying ' get on the bus to find work '

But I think the phrase you might be remembering was the famous one by Norman Tebbit

Number 25, and there are a few others there to people to smile at and remember.
My children's great grandfather cycled south from Newcastle in the 30's searching for skilled work. He ended up in Birmingham and having established himself moved his wife and kids down.
Quote by Ben_Minx
My children's great grandfather cycled south from Newcastle in the 30's searching for skilled work. He ended up in Birmingham and having established himself moved his wife and kids down.

Cannot imagine cycling that distance now, what with all the extra traffic. In the 30's there were hardly any cars around and the only means of transport for virtually everyone were legs or cycles.
The 30's were also far far worse than they are now with people back then having to fend for themselves. Nowadays there is the welfare system for many and a good living some have made out of it. All joking aside your children's Great Grandfather was a credit to himself and now those kinds of men are very hard to find, if at all any now exist.
Star when was the last time you used public transport to get to work and back?
I start at 6am and leave the house at a rather unsocial time, there are no buses then, and even when they are running I would have to get one into the middle of town then get onto a connecting one and even then they do not come onto the business estate I work on.
Also it would cost me nearly £8 a day, so no thank you.
Star I dont want to be in a gym watching a tv or a girl bend over and paying stupidly over priced fees for something I can do for free, I want to be in the fresh air looking and listening to the wild life, looking across the fields, saying hello to the ladies on horseback, walkers and other cyclists.
Vive la fresh air!
The way this looks we all simply agree to disagree.
No one camp can even slightly change the feelings and opinion of the other camp.
And we have no strayed in another topic all together.
If you ask me above all training courses, driving licenses, refreshing course, cycling courses and whatnot people have to learn common sense and mutual respect not only on the road but off the road as well.
With a bit of common sense and respect for the other people involved in the high/slow speed movement of objects and people i think all that nonsense could be easily avoided.
Quote by mrs-bmw
Star when was the last time you used public transport to get to work and back?

Ermmmm, last Tuesday and last Thursday. I got on a bus for about 2 miles and then onto the underground. No delays on the buses as they run very well nowadays and the underground is splendid. I left for work on both days at am. Does that answer your question?
Quote by mrs-bmw
I start at 6am and leave the house at a rather unsocial time, there are no buses then, and even when they are running I would have to get one into the middle of town then get onto a connecting one and even then they do not come onto the business estate I work on.
Also it would cost me nearly £8 a day, so no thank you.

So what do you do when there is snow or it is very icy? Is it really worth risking your life getting to work?
Quote by mrs-bmw
Star I dont want to be in a gym watching a tv or a girl bend over and paying stupidly over priced fees for something I can do for free, I want to be in the fresh air looking and listening to the wild life, looking across the fields, saying hello to the ladies on horseback, walkers and other cyclists.

Over priced fees? How much is a decent cycle nowadays? What happens when you want to go out on your cycle and it is raining hard? Or it is freezing cold and blowing a gale? I was trying to make light as in the scenario with the girl in the gym and obviously went over some peoples heads.
You really want to be in the fresh air in the depths of winter. looking across fields? Maybe in the summertime it is lovely but after all the rain and wind and general bad weather, even without all of that you still have to take your life into your own hands when riding on the roads. No thanks I would rather be in the gym.
Quote by mrs-bmw
Vive la fresh air!

And icy roads equals bruised arses. lol
@mrs-bmw
There is so much more to paying your gym fee than just using the machines. The culture in the gym I used was all about stretching, warming up and cooling down before and after exercise so as not to 'injure' yourself. Whilst not my scene, my gym specialised in 'road runners' and they always stretched and warmed up properly before going out the door.
I'm not certain that such culture or good practice exists with people who just launch themselves on their bikes from home which might sometimes account for the level of self inflicted injuries cyclists sometimes incur when they fall off.
Star, I am happy that the public transport in your area works for you, it just doesn`t work in my area. I drive to work and there have only ever been one maybe two occasions in my working life that the snow has kept me at home.
What`s wrong with being out in the all weathers, I am outside at work so it doesn`t really bother me, stick on some warm clothes and water proofs and away you go. If I can`t get out to ride I go for a brisk walk.
Star interestingly enough I am looking for a new cycle as this weekend my old one that I have had for around 15 years has finally bit the dust. I am looking in the region of around £400 for a new one, how many months is that in gym fees? If it lasts for another 15 years I will be very happy.
GnV finally yes I do warm up to exercise, I also cool down and stretch after a ride or walk.
And so I will leave the thread there, we don`t seem to be getting anywhere as I like to be outside riding my bike and looking at the fields, and everyone else seems to enjoy looking at girls bending over :grin:
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

This should of course be S.M.I.D.S.Y. ....oh well it was early .... the point still stands
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

This should of course be S.M.I.D.S.Y. ....oh well it was early .... the point still stands
:laughabove::laughabove:
I think you was right the first time. :bounce:
Quote by mrs-bmw
Star, I am happy that the public transport in your area works for you, it just doesn`t work in my area. I drive to work and there have only ever been one maybe two occasions in my working life that the snow has kept me at home.
What`s wrong with being out in the all weathers, I am outside at work so it doesn`t really bother me, stick on some warm clothes and water proofs and away you go. If I can`t get out to ride I go for a brisk walk.

The public transport works very well in most areas now, unless you live in an area that does not serve the public well. That being the case I am sure people realised this when they moved there dunno
Quote by mrs-bmw
Star interestingly enough I am looking for a new cycle as this weekend my old one that I have had for around 15 years has finally bit the dust. I am looking in the region of around £400 for a new one, how many months is that in gym fees? If it lasts for another 15 years I will be very happy.

Well I pay £35 a month so will leave the maths up to you. 15 years? Does any cyclist last 15 years? lol
Quote by mrs-bmw
And so I will leave the thread there, we don`t seem to be getting anywhere as I like to be outside riding my bike and looking at the fields, and everyone else seems to enjoy looking at girls bending over :grin:

If you are bothered by girls bending over I could tell you the story of the guy with the huge cock in the showers if you like............... wink
Quote by starlightcouple
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

This should of course be S.M.I.D.S.Y. ....oh well it was early .... the point still stands
:laughabove::laughabove:
I think you was right the first time. :bounce:
And yet again what you think and what is correct are diametrically opposed to each other ,what a fucking shock eh ?
This you see is why I really can't be bothered anymore
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

This should of course be S.M.I.D.S.Y. ....oh well it was early .... the point still stands
Raaaargh, no wonder I was struggling with Teh Google. I had to use the power of my brains and everything. Got there in the end but you now owe me eleventy-squillion braincells I'll never get back. mad
Quote by neilinleeds
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

This should of course be S.M.I.D.S.Y. ....oh well it was early .... the point still stands
Raaaargh, no wonder I was struggling with Teh Google. I had to use the power of my brains and everything. Got there in the end but you now owe me eleventy-squillion braincells I'll never get back. mad
It was as I said early .... I would of course pay you the brain cells but unfortunatly at my great age I have non to spare
accidents will happen no matter what,,,,, the guy/gal on two wheels will always come off the worse
sometimes its the fault of the driver sometimes its cyclist/motor cyclist
i suppose that it could be likened to getting in a cage with a rhino no matter what your going to come off second best so to expect something else is plain stupidity
a bit like the sign enter at you own risk wink
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Read two pages and couldn't be bothered to read the rest of the predictable 'cyclists are an inconveniece to ME how dare they use MY road' bullshit .... search S.I.D.S.Y.M. and ponder on the fact that there is well known acronym for the phenomenon

could the same rant be applied in reverse
pro-bikers say all motorist are morons and dangerous take em off the road in favour of the two wheeled wallies
yawns, scratches arse,rolls eyes and wanders off to find a better debated point lol
Stag, you owe me 3minutes 47 seconds of thinking time too. I will accept a pint on our next trip to Gods other own country.
Society is far too blasé about road misuse. It is after all the biggest cause of death amongst folk under 40 summat in the UK.
Did ya know there are a couple of licensed drivers on our roads who have each been banned no less than 8 times.
Quote by Ben_Minx
Stag, you owe me 3minutes 47 seconds of thinking time too. I will accept a pint on our next trip to Gods other own country.
Society is far too blasé about road misuse. It is after all the biggest cause of death amongst folk under 40 summat in the UK.
Did ya know there are a couple of licensed drivers on our roads who have each been banned no less than 8 times.

try reading this fist ben i doubt your statement looking at the amount of actual road deaths

or you can try this one

did you know there are a couple of licenced drivers over 100 who have never had an accident flipa
You failed to read or understand a post yet again.
All of it, it would seem, given the "joke".
Quote by Ben_Minx
You failed to read or understand a post yet again.
All of it, it would seem, given the "joke".

not really ben i was pointing out the facts in case you inadvertently misled someone and i added a little ditty of my own
obviously its a bit early for humour lol
Quote by Lizaleanrob
....obviously its a bit early for humour lol

Sun's not up yet on his side of Snowdon rob :lol2: