Like I said NOT an anti car pro bike rant.
Which you then decide to respond to with an anti bike rant.
And make assumptions which you claim to have read somewhere.
All incredibly tiresome really.
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Workplace Parking Levy
Quote by Ben_Minx
Like I said NOT an anti car pro bike rant.
Which you then decide to respond to with an anti bike rant.
And make assumptions which you claim to have read somewhere.
All incredibly tiresome really.
sorry ben not an anti bike rant at all, just trying to readdress the balance :notes:
if it is an assumption ben, can you cleer the misunderstanding up. do you own a car?
why is someone responding to what you have written tiresome ben
unless of course what you have written does not hold up. :dunno: 
Sex God
Quote by Ben_Minx
And there I was thinking you had grown up. My post wasnt a pro bike anti car rant, simply a gentle nudge that society is obsessed with cars and that situation cant possibly continue as so eloquently expanded by flower.
I believe we are witnessing the beginning of the end of our unhealthy obsession with private motor cars,
the thought of being woken up at 6 in the morning with the awful roar of a triumph triple running on 2 and a half cylinders smoking like a chimney and polluting the atmosphere with hydrocarbon's would be enough to convince me and the rest of the population otherwise
long will live the motor car
funny i cant see many doing a weeks shopping on one either
mine was not an anti motor bike rant ben in fact i know considerably about bikes and the noise and pollution they produce especially carb models mine was an observation based on the half-wit who lives at the top of our road who goes out every Sunday morning at 6am waking up the rest of the neighbourhood but then i doubt it will happen any longer as he has had a noise abatement order of some sort slapped on him last week
9 manufacturers have adopted the hydrogen engine and I'm afraid to say the car is here to stay it may take different form and shapes but it will still be here long after you or i have left this planet and if a way of extracting shale oil is found than it will be at least another 1000 years
Sex God
Quote by Ben_Minx
I respect your view but disagree, a shortage of hydrocarbons is the least of our worries.
Like I said, Local government and councils, on a money making scheme, masquerading as environmentalists I reckon.
Here is a worry of mine, people being conned that Bio fuels are better for the environment.
The irony here is that the growing eagerness to slow climate change by using biofuels and planting millions of trees for carbon credits has resulted in new major causes of deforestation, say activists. And that is making climate change worse because deforestation puts far more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire world's fleet of cars, trucks, planes, trains and ships combined.
"Biofuels are rapidly becoming the main cause of deforestation in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia and Brazil," said Simone Lovera, managing coordinator of the Global Forest Coalition, an environmental NGO based in Asunción, Paraguay.
"We call it 'deforestation diesel'," Lovera told IPS.
Oil from African palm trees is considered to be one of the best and cheapest sources of biodiesel and energy companies are investing billions into acquiring or developing oil-palm plantations in developing countries. Vast tracts of forest in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and many other countries have been cleared to grow oil palms.
Oil palm has become the world's number one fruit crop, well ahead of bananas.
Biodiesel offers many environmental benefits over diesel from petroleum, including reductions in air pollutants, but the enormous global thirst means millions more hectares could be converted into monocultures of oil palm.
Sex God
Quote by Ben_Minx
Aye Bio-Diesel is fools gold.
It has been a long time coming, but I bloody new there must be some thing we would agree on
Sex God
Parking levy's, increased fuel duty, toll roads and congestion charges............... Bring it on and get all of the poor people off the roads and by default make the whole driving experience more pleasant for the affluent folk.
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Even though the workplace levy is only half baked (a company has to have something like 10 spaces for staff before it is charged) it is the start of a better, safer and healthier environment for the city. This country contains too many petrol-heads that dominate the agenda and ruin our environment, health and economy with their demands, not to mention building up massive problems for future generations. Don't blame bodies that are trying to do something about the mess a car obsessed society has and continues to create. People who moan about "not being able to get to work without a car because..." need to get a grip of their life choices, make sensible decisions about where you live in relation to where you work and the public transport connections that are available. It is not for society to sacrifice the environment for people who make stupid decisions about where they live.
Live close to work or work close to home; and use the car responsibly or else the future is bound to bring in many more car restraining measures.
Live close to work or work close to home; and use the car responsibly or else the future is bound to bring in many more car restraining measures.
Your fingers type my words.
Quote by Sheffcastle
Even though the workplace levy is only half baked (a company has to have something like 10 spaces for staff before it is charged) it is the start of a better, safer and healthier environment for the city. This country contains too many petrol-heads that dominate the agenda and ruin our environment, health and economy with their demands, not to mention building up massive problems for future generations. Don't blame bodies that are trying to do something about the mess a car obsessed society has and continues to create. People who moan about "not being able to get to work without a car because..." need to get a grip of their life choices, make sensible decisions about where you live in relation to where you work and the public transport connections that are available. It is not for society to sacrifice the environment for people who make stupid decisions about where they live.
Live close to work or work close to home; and use the car responsibly or else the future is bound to bring in many more car restraining measures.
Quote by Sheffcastle
It is not for society to sacrifice the environment for people who make stupid decisions about where they live.
Live close to work or work close to home; and use the car responsibly or else the future is bound to bring in many more car restraining measures.
i am sure that if this was at all possible for the majority of peeple to do, i am sure they would be mad not to take that up but,,,nowadays jobs are in short demand. peeple cannot possibly dictate where they live in relation to where they work.
i am also sure there will be many more car restraining measures as you put it, but it wont make a jot of difference to the enviroment, and to think it will is foolish in the extreme. all it does is to generate many more billions of pounds to put into a governments purse. will that extra money raised from those measures go towards the environment? to believe it will is even more foolish.
the car is a fantastic way to generate money with an excuse of the enviroment, check every budget to see that. without that hated car and the billions and billions of pounds it generates for the government, every second of every day what amount of tax do you think you will be paying? certainly not 20% thats for sure.
as an aside sheffcastle, do you own and drive a car?
