Unbelieveable!
Let me see if ive got this right, she comes to this country, kills a young child, ONLY gets 5 years in prison, Only serves half, and then is given £4500 to bugger off back to where she came from!!
Surely no one agrees with this?
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Yep, the goverment has finally lost it!!
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How many more examples do we need before the masses realise en mass that the only way to deal with scum is to snuff it on the end of a long rope then throw it's corpse down a very deep hole in the ground with eleven others ready for concreting over?
Cheeper, easier, and in high profile cases maybe even used as entertainment / deterrent.
Hang em high! Hang em all!!
Cheeper, easier, and in high profile cases maybe even used as entertainment / deterrent.
Hang em high! Hang em all!!
Quote by Kaznkev
you are such a loving guy brighton
That is actually true, and any of my children will confirm it.
However I am sick of reading about repeat offenders, and in particular when it comes to murderers, paedophiles, rapists, terrorists, and people who abuse the elderly.
What Im suggesting might very well seem uncivilised to some people, old fashioned maybe, even nasty. I'm not sorry! Fuck that, the statistics prove that most "people" (and I'll use that term loosely) who commit these offenses are caught commiting them more than once.
So to those who believe that they deserve second, even third and fourth chances, I say
this. The only chances you are giving them are chances to reoffend. It costs a fortune to keep them in prison for the rest of their natural lives, and even more to rehabilitate them when they become to old to be a threat.
There is only one way to avoid seeing convicted murderers, paedophiles, rapists, etc from reoffending, and it is 100% effective as well as much more ecconomic. Yes indeed I'm from the old school, Hang Em High!
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you are such a loving guy brighton
That is actually true, and any of my children will confirm it.
However I am sick of reading about repeat offenders, and in particular when it comes to murderers, paedophiles, rapists, terrorists, and people who abuse the elderly.
What Im suggesting might very well seem uncivilised to some people, old fashioned maybe, even nasty. I'm not sorry! Fuck that, the statistics prove that most "people" (and I'll use that term loosely) who commit these offenses are caught commiting them more than once.
So to those who believe that they deserve second, even third and fourth chances, I say
this. The only chances you are giving them are chances to reoffend. It costs a fortune to keep them in prison for the rest of their natural lives, and even more to rehabilitate them when they become to old to be a threat.
There is only one way to avoid seeing convicted murderers, paedophiles, rapists, etc from reoffending, and it is 100% effective as well as much more ecconomic. Yes indeed I'm from the old school, Hang Em High!
Ere Brighton.... ya trying to take over my role on here?
I am suprised you have not had the " anti hate " brigade on ya back yet.
Am sure you will be getting the usual pm's coming your way.
I have mine in a little folder on me desktop and have a look when I need a giggle. 
Sex God
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Browning..do you really believe all this shit in the Daily Wail.....
It is all lies by the media to sell papers matey.
Nothing in the media now is true, unless they report on the banks, or politicians.
Smack your botty......you really should know better.
Raise the flags hang the bunting the honourable member for Kent has seen the light
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Ere Brighton.... ya trying to take over my role on here?
I am suprised you have not had the " anti hate " brigade on ya back yet.
Am sure you will be getting the usual pm's coming your way.
Just as long as the criticism doesn't get personal Kenty it won't bother me. Otherwise I might suggest that if they really want to know about hate, they should look into my eyes! lol :0)
Sex God
Quote by BrightonGeezer
you are such a loving guy brighton
That is actually true, and any of my children will confirm it.
However I am sick of reading about repeat offenders, and in particular when it comes to murderers, paedophiles, rapists, terrorists, and people who abuse the elderly.
What Im suggesting might very well seem uncivilised to some people, old fashioned maybe, even nasty. I'm not sorry! Fuck that, the statistics prove that most "people" (and I'll use that term loosely) who commit these offenses are caught commiting them more than once.
So to those who believe that they deserve second, even third and fourth chances, I say
this. The only chances you are giving them are chances to reoffend. It costs a fortune to keep them in prison for the rest of their natural lives, and even more to rehabilitate them when they become to old to be a threat.
There is only one way to avoid seeing convicted murderers, paedophiles, rapists, etc from reoffending, and it is 100% effective as well as much more ecconomic. Yes indeed I'm from the old school, Hang Em High!
:standingovation:
U.S. statutes require mandatory minimum sentences of life imprisonment or the death penalty for nearly all first-degree murder convictions in federal court. These mandatory minimum sentences apply even if sentencing guidelines recommend a lesser sentence. Australia, Malaysia, Denmark, Taiwan and many other countries have mandatory minimum sentence laws for murder, though those minimums may range from five years to the death penalty. British law has required a mandatory minimum sentence of life imprisonment in all murder cases since 1965, but recent reforms have increased judicial discretion in sentencing all but the most heinous murders. In other words, Britain doesn't consider the heartless murder of a helpless child to be a "heinous" murder. The British punishment is a couple of years in a comfy cell with satellite tv, 4 square meals a day and leisure activities, then a free plane ticket home and £4500 to boot. And people wonder why immigrants and foreign workers bypass mainland Europe to get to the UK.
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Ere Brighton.... ya trying to take over my role on here?
I am suprised you have not had the " anti hate " brigade on ya back yet.
Am sure you will be getting the usual pm's coming your way.
Just as long as the criticism doesn't get personal Kentyit won't bother me. Otherwise I might suggest that if they really want to know about hate, they should look into my eyes! lol :0)
Will wait for the " usual " suspects to get ya! :wink:
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O.K. I'll do it then
The sentence this woman recieved is based on the evidence put before the court...not that which the media choose to report, I don't know the full story nor I suspect does anyone else commenting here...I have no sympathy for the woman in question nor do I wish to defend her.I would feel no remorse were she to die...I would however be more than a little upset were she to be killed in my name...I want no-ones blood on my hands whoever they may be and whatever they may have done.
As for the grant like all beaurocracies government departments do not know their arses from their elbows I rather suspect some shiny arsed idiot of just pushing the papers through rather than any kind of definate policy decision.
I don't think any party would have done any different no-one can catch all the balls all the time..the test here perhaps is what ,if anything is done now this has come to light.
The sentence this woman recieved is based on the evidence put before the court...not that which the media choose to report, I don't know the full story nor I suspect does anyone else commenting here...I have no sympathy for the woman in question nor do I wish to defend her.I would feel no remorse were she to die...I would however be more than a little upset were she to be killed in my name...I want no-ones blood on my hands whoever they may be and whatever they may have done.
As for the grant like all beaurocracies government departments do not know their arses from their elbows I rather suspect some shiny arsed idiot of just pushing the papers through rather than any kind of definate policy decision.
I don't think any party would have done any different no-one can catch all the balls all the time..the test here perhaps is what ,if anything is done now this has come to light.
Quote by Kaznkev
you are such a loving guy brighton
That is actually true, and any of my children will confirm it.
However I am sick of reading about repeat offenders, and in particular when it comes to murderers, paedophiles, rapists, terrorists, and people who abuse the elderly.
What Im suggesting might very well seem uncivilised to some people, old fashioned maybe, even nasty. I'm not sorry! Fuck that, the statistics prove that most "people" (and I'll use that term loosely) who commit these offenses are caught committing them more than once.
So to those who believe that they deserve second, even third and fourth chances, I say
this. The only chances you are giving them are chances to reoffend. It costs a fortune to keep them in prison for the rest of their natural lives, and even more to rehabilitate them when they become to old to be a threat.
There is only one way to avoid seeing convicted murderers, paedophiles, rapists, etc from reoffending, and it is 100% effective as well as much more economic. Yes indeed I'm from the old school, Hang Em High!
you know what i think of you
But I cannot see how state sponsored revenge is right.
Sorry but 2 wrongs dont make a right,if killing is wrong then so is the death dont even start on miscarriages of justice
By all means throw away the key,but dont sink to their level
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Why thank you x
The trouble is more about putting a stop to something in a way that cannot be reversed. Two wrongs of the magnitude I mentioned earlier are one more than should have been allowed, the noose prevents the second wrong and makes sure the perpetrator doesn't make any more innocent victims. Sorry but the black hat has been absent for far too long in British courts.
Sex God
Kill them all and throw the corpses into a heap to fester and rot then burn it all on 24 hour pay per view camera to gain some cash back from the evil bastards. Lock everyone who commits a crime up for reasonable sentences and stop classifying crimes at different levels/ Shop lifting should be treated the same as any theft 5 years minimum second offence life. should be treated with pant stripper place down the urethra with a big mirror showing the whats happening after having they're eyelids removed of course so they can't shut their eyes.
All newsprint articles of crime sahould be in words of no more than 2 syllable and 6 letters with exlamation marks after. kill them all kill them all FUCKING KILL THEM ALLLLLLLLLLLLL. bastard perpetrators of crime OMG give me a gun and i'll do it let me at them I want them dead. Why because I speak with rightiousness and truth. Let them try and run let then hide. We wsill seel them out and put then to death!
All newsprint articles of crime sahould be in words of no more than 2 syllable and 6 letters with exlamation marks after. kill them all kill them all FUCKING KILL THEM ALLLLLLLLLLLLL. bastard perpetrators of crime OMG give me a gun and i'll do it let me at them I want them dead. Why because I speak with rightiousness and truth. Let them try and run let then hide. We wsill seel them out and put then to death!
Sex God
Quote by BrightonGeezer
The trouble is more about putting a stop to something in a way that cannot be reversed. Two wrongs of the magnitude I mentioned earlier are one more than should have been allowed, the noose prevents the second wrong and makes sure the perpetrator doesn't make any more innocent victims. Sorry but the black hat has been absent for far too long in British courts.
Trouble is Brighton, to prevent the second wrong you're talking about, a second wrong of even greater magnitude must take place. When a murderer kills, the responsibility for that act is his, and his alone. When the state kills, the responsibility must be borne by, among others, the jury, the judge, the prosecutors, the prison staff who guard him in the condemned cell, the medical staff who administer the lethal injection ((( we'll never go back to the noose after all. It's not humane is it?
))) the politicians who passed the death penalty into law, and those of us in the wider society who insisted upon it. The taint of it touches everyone. I for one would not want the state to kill in my name, because I don't want the blood of another human being on my hands, no matter what he's done.As for the argument that it costs more to keep prisoners in jail for life than it does to execute them, the experience of the US suggests that actually the reverse is true. By the time you've taken into account the extra costs involved in a capital trial, the lengthy appeals and re-investigation process that is a necessary safe-guard against wrongful execution, the admin costs of maintaining a maximum security death row, blah blah blah, it is generally much more costly to execute someone in the U.S. than it is to seek a full life-term in prison.
Interestingly, in the news this weekend, even the most murderous of American states are now starting to have second thoughts on the death penalty because of the number of death sentences imposed on innocents subsequently over-turned thanks to better forensics.
Neil x x x ;)
Now how did I know that artical would come from the Leftie Guardian....a newspaper that has openly been against the death penalty, and holds exactly the same views on it as you do Neil.
Suprise suprise.....
How come the Guardian's links and comments get treated different to say the Mail's? It is what you read is what you believe maybe. :shock:
I tell you what Neil....IF Huntley had been put to death for his crimes, I am sure most Prison Offficers, members of the Jury, and most importantly the public, would have gladly let him die for his crimes.
The discussions the politicians have in Parliament on the death penalty issue, keep happening....it won't go away. It ain't coming back but....a huge ammount of people still think for SOME crimes, it should be a just punishment.
I would not belive a word those journalists write in the Guardian, the same as others would not believe a word written in the Mail.
How dare you use newspaper articals... :wink:
Suprise suprise.....
How come the Guardian's links and comments get treated different to say the Mail's? It is what you read is what you believe maybe. :shock:
I tell you what Neil....IF Huntley had been put to death for his crimes, I am sure most Prison Offficers, members of the Jury, and most importantly the public, would have gladly let him die for his crimes.
The discussions the politicians have in Parliament on the death penalty issue, keep happening....it won't go away. It ain't coming back but....a huge ammount of people still think for SOME crimes, it should be a just punishment.
I would not belive a word those journalists write in the Guardian, the same as others would not believe a word written in the Mail.
How dare you use newspaper articals...
:wink: Well being the clever bugger I am I have come up with all the answers. I'd be a shit politician btw, because I say what I think and not what people want to hear.
If people are soppy enough to believe that some murderers, rapists, paedophiles, abusers of old people etc don't deserve to die, then the mandatory sentence should be life, meaning the rest of their natural life with no possibility of parole. I refuse to take seriously this who would spare or would have spared, Brady & Hindley, Fred & Rose West, Peter Sutcliff, Ian Huntley, and the likes of these high profile disgusting and evil creatures. They would of course still have to die, preferably by the noose but in the grand sceme of things it dosn't matter how really. For those who espous the Not In My Name objection here is your answer, They can do it on mine. Maybe open up the Brighton Geezer Execution parlour, and for a nominal fee I will turn up once a week to administer death to the vermin who deserve it.
Can't say fairer than that! :0)
If people are soppy enough to believe that some murderers, rapists, paedophiles, abusers of old people etc don't deserve to die, then the mandatory sentence should be life, meaning the rest of their natural life with no possibility of parole. I refuse to take seriously this who would spare or would have spared, Brady & Hindley, Fred & Rose West, Peter Sutcliff, Ian Huntley, and the likes of these high profile disgusting and evil creatures. They would of course still have to die, preferably by the noose but in the grand sceme of things it dosn't matter how really. For those who espous the Not In My Name objection here is your answer, They can do it on mine. Maybe open up the Brighton Geezer Execution parlour, and for a nominal fee I will turn up once a week to administer death to the vermin who deserve it.
Can't say fairer than that! :0)
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Blimey Brighton.....can I be a witness??
Introduce me to Mrs 777 and I'll see what I can do! ;0)
She hates me thoughts on things, and your more fucking extreme than me. :shock:
Still am sure she would put us both in a big pot, and light the fire. :lol:
This not a pop at your lass Kenty, but to hate peoples thoughts and then accuse them of being hateful is prety much the language of the left, fluent hypocrisy! Attitudes are different because they are more outward, but ones beliefs are personal, well they were until the advent of the Internet and the thought police, (Stalin's gestapo). Then they'll say that their grandaddies fought for freedom of speech, yet it is they who wish to suppress it.
To quote one of my old favourite bands, What a wonderful world...
Mrs777 thinks I am a tad extreme...though from what she is seeing lately I am winning her around.
No matter how extreme someone's actions are be it a murderer, or something to do with well anything bad, you will see there are plenty who will bleat about their rights, and not always the rights of the victim.....ya ain't been on here long enough matey.
No matter how extreme someone's actions are be it a murderer, or something to do with well anything bad, you will see there are plenty who will bleat about their rights, and not always the rights of the victim.....ya ain't been on here long enough matey.
so, based on a tabloid article, i've no doupt very accurate, some of you would hang somebody ? what a good idea. its a wonder it has'nt been thought of before ! i'm sure that with tabloid justice, no innocents would be hanged ! hang that woman ! hang that man ! invaded that country ! bomb the bastards ! send em all back ! it's a pandemic ! ffs
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Quote by BrightonGeezer
Well being the clever bugger I am I have come up with all the answers. I'd be a shit politician btw, because I say what I think and not what people want to hear.
If people are soppy enough to believe that some murderers, rapists, paedophiles, abusers of old people etc don't deserve to die, then the mandatory sentence should be life, meaning the rest of their natural life with no possibility of parole. I refuse to take seriously this who would spare or would have spared, Brady & Hindley, Fred & Rose West, Peter Sutcliff, Ian Huntley, and the likes of these high profile disgusting and evil creatures. They would of course still have to die, preferably by the noose but in the grand sceme of things it dosn't matter how really. For those who espous the Not In My Name objection here is your answer, They can do it on mine. Maybe open up the Brighton Geezer Execution parlour, and for a nominal fee I will turn up once a week to administer death to the vermin who deserve it.
Can't say fairer than that! :0)
a very comforting place those there realms of fantasy....in the real world executions are carried out in the name of society so I for one will stick to the not in my name argument amongst others
