Young motorists twice as likely than average to have a crash
Average cost of an accident involving a young motorist twice as high as for other motorists
Accident involving a young driver five times as likely to involve an injury
Young motorists four times as likely to have a conviction for careless driving than the average motorist
Research by leading car insurance expert Admiral highlights just how poor the driving record of young drivers is compared with older motorists. It shows 17 and 18 year old motorists are twice as likely to have a road accident as someone in their 30s, three times as likely as someone in their 40s and six times as likely as someone aged over 50.
Admiral's research of 2million motorists found 13% of those aged 17 and 18 have a crash. This compares with 6.5% of motorists overall. But when compared with older motorists, the difference is even more startling. Just 4.5% of motorists in their 40s are involved in a crash and 2% of those over 50.
It's not just the amount of accidents young drivers have that illustrates why they are worse than older drivers. Admiral found the average cost of an accident involving a 17 or 18 year old was nearly £3,500. The average cost of an accident for drivers overall is half this; £1,741. This points to young drivers having more serious crashes at high speed which often involve an injury to someone. Indeed an accident claim made by someone aged 17-21 is five times as likely to include somebody being injured.
Admiral managing director, Sue Longthorn, commenting on the research said, "Sadly, newly qualified motorists aged 17 and 18 are far more likely to be involved in a serious accident than more mature drivers. It isn't until motorists reach 25 that their accident statistics improve substantially, but it really is the youngest ones who are the biggest risk.
"From our point of view driving experience makes a huge difference and is one reason older motorists have lower premiums. Another explanation why young drivers have a worse driving record is peer pressure. They will often drive with their friends as passengers and some feel a need to show off; driving too fast and taking risks. Combined with their lack of experience, this can prove fatal; road accidents are the biggest cause of death for young people."
Convictions for careless driving are also far more common among young drivers than older ones. Someone aged 17-21 is four times as likely as the average motorist to receive a conviction for careless driving.
Is it not time we did something about this.
Motorcyclists are not permitted to ride cycles over 250cc until they have passed their tests, would it not be good idea to stop young and new drivers from driving vehicles over 1000cc and of low Bhp until they have been driving for 2 years and gained some practical experience ?
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Young motorists twice as likely than average to have a crash
Average cost of an accident involving a young motorist twice as high as for other motorists
Accident involving a young driver five times as likely to involve an injury
Young motorists four times as likely to have a conviction for careless driving than the average motorist
Research by leading car insurance expert Admiral highlights just how poor the driving record of young drivers is compared with older motorists. It shows 17 and 18 year old motorists are twice as likely to have a road accident as someone in their 30s, three times as likely as someone in their 40s and six times as likely as someone aged over 50.
Admiral's research of 2million motorists found 13% of those aged 17 and 18 have a crash. This compares with 6.5% of motorists overall. But when compared with older motorists, the difference is even more startling. Just 4.5% of motorists in their 40s are involved in a crash and 2% of those over 50.
It's not just the amount of accidents young drivers have that illustrates why they are worse than older drivers. Admiral found the average cost of an accident involving a 17 or 18 year old was nearly £3,500. The average cost of an accident for drivers overall is half this; £1,741. This points to young drivers having more serious crashes at high speed which often involve an injury to someone. Indeed an accident claim made by someone aged 17-21 is five times as likely to include somebody being injured.
Admiral managing director, Sue Longthorn, commenting on the research said, "Sadly, newly qualified motorists aged 17 and 18 are far more likely to be involved in a serious accident than more mature drivers. It isn't until motorists reach 25 that their accident statistics improve substantially, but it really is the youngest ones who are the biggest risk.
"From our point of view driving experience makes a huge difference and is one reason older motorists have lower premiums. Another explanation why young drivers have a worse driving record is peer pressure. They will often drive with their friends as passengers and some feel a need to show off; driving too fast and taking risks. Combined with their lack of experience, this can prove fatal; road accidents are the biggest cause of death for young people."
Convictions for careless driving are also far more common among young drivers than older ones. Someone aged 17-21 is four times as likely as the average motorist to receive a conviction for careless driving.
Is it not time we did something about this.
Motorcyclists are not permitted to ride cycles over 250cc until they have passed their tests, would it not be good idea to stop young and new drivers from driving vehicles over 1000cc and of low Bhp until they have been driving for 2 years and gained some practical experience ?
i have recently seen my fair share of older bad drivers,
and some outright dangerous immigrant drivers who have little or no regard for the danger they are putting other drivers in.
i do not claim to be a good rider as we all make mistakes from time to time.
but one trend i am noticing with young drivers is the wearing of headphones whilst driving and still using a mobile phone while behind the wheel.
i can remember when i was young and i thought i knew best, never listened to anyone but i dont think it is just down to the younger or new drivers on the road.
i see mums shouting at kids while driving not able to concentrate on whats happening around them, and most seem to be on facebook or twitter at the same time.
older people just sitting at roundabouts looking confused, and even police parking illegally to get a take away.
i have a camera mounted to my crash helmet sometimes and you'll be amazed what i see and the standards of driving that are captured. and yes the police break the rules just as much as anyone.
and its funny, when drivers see me pointing to the camera the phone gets put away and the return to what they should be doing, driving with due care and attention.
in a lot of cases i would say people are so stressed out by todays lifestyle that the mind isnt fully on the road and i can understand this. we all have things in our lives which trouble us and we are rushing around from job to job to make ends meet or place to place because we never have enough time that the mind just goes into automatic.
so we forget how dangerous poor standard of driving is and how we can impact on others lives because of it.
but one trend i am noticing with young drivers is the wearing of headphones whilst driving and still using a mobile phone while behind the wheel.
i can remember when i was young and i thought i knew best, never listened to anyone but i dont think it is just down to the younger or new drivers on the road.
i see mums shouting at kids while driving not able to concentrate on whats happening around them, and most seem to be on facebook or twitter at the same time.
older people just sitting at roundabouts looking confused, and even police parking illegally to get a take away.
i have a camera mounted to my crash helmet sometimes and you'll be amazed what i see and the standards of driving that are captured. and yes the police break the rules just as much as anyone.
and its funny, when drivers see me pointing to the camera the phone gets put away and the return to what they should be doing, driving with due care and attention.
in a lot of cases i would say people are so stressed out by todays lifestyle that the mind isnt fully on the road and i can understand this. we all have things in our lives which trouble us and we are rushing around from job to job to make ends meet or place to place because we never have enough time that the mind just goes into automatic.
so we forget how dangerous poor standard of driving is and how we can impact on others lives because of it.
When i (mr fun) was 19 & 21 i had motorcycle accidents which involved being hit by a car and a lorry respectivley. Both of the third party drivers were "mature" motorists
( though both belonging to the " sorry i didn't see you brigade !!). I was suitably compansated for both accidents !
Now being a mature (hahaha alledged lol) motorcyclist it is easier to see hazards coming up to you (more blind drivers) and hopefully avoid a crunch.
( though both belonging to the " sorry i didn't see you brigade !!). I was suitably compansated for both accidents !
Now being a mature (hahaha alledged lol) motorcyclist it is easier to see hazards coming up to you (more blind drivers) and hopefully avoid a crunch.
Of course older drivers have accidents, nobody is saying they don't but the facts are in a hundred surveys, younger drivers have more accidents, novice skiers have more accidents, in all walks of life where there is an element of danger the less experienced are going to be more vulnerable, a 50 year old skiing for the first time in his life will fall over more than an experienced skier (I speak with experience on that) but as a mature skier I was wise enough to avoid the black runs until I gained more experience.
Not all young drivers will make errors due to their age but they are more likely to make more mistakes due to their inexperience and it is very hard for a 17 year old to gain that experience before taking control of a powerful vehicle.
Why else do you have to be 25 to drive many categories of vehicle if this is not true.
I made my fair share of mistakes as a younger driver, sometimes due to inexperience sometimes due to peer pressure and sometimes due to stupidity, I was lucky I never harmed anyone else or myself, but could have.
Everyone knows what a weapon a car can be, all I am saying is that give someone a bat it is dangerous give them a machine gun and it is as criminal as some of the actions performed with it.
The government are wrong to allow inexperienced drivers to have powerful vehicles, they recognise this with motorcycles why not with cars ?
I am not just singling out younger drivers either I would make the law applicable to ALL new drivers regardless of their age though of course there are more younger drivers passing their tests than there are older ones as the accident statistics show.
If I bought my child a vehicle it would not be a performance one in the same way that many parents would not buy their children a motorcycle for the same reason ie worry over their safety.
Not all young drivers will make errors due to their age but they are more likely to make more mistakes due to their inexperience and it is very hard for a 17 year old to gain that experience before taking control of a powerful vehicle.
Why else do you have to be 25 to drive many categories of vehicle if this is not true.
I made my fair share of mistakes as a younger driver, sometimes due to inexperience sometimes due to peer pressure and sometimes due to stupidity, I was lucky I never harmed anyone else or myself, but could have.
Everyone knows what a weapon a car can be, all I am saying is that give someone a bat it is dangerous give them a machine gun and it is as criminal as some of the actions performed with it.
The government are wrong to allow inexperienced drivers to have powerful vehicles, they recognise this with motorcycles why not with cars ?
I am not just singling out younger drivers either I would make the law applicable to ALL new drivers regardless of their age though of course there are more younger drivers passing their tests than there are older ones as the accident statistics show.
If I bought my child a vehicle it would not be a performance one in the same way that many parents would not buy their children a motorcycle for the same reason ie worry over their safety.
Sex God
I think it's interesting to note that the findings in the first post were published in 2010 based on research carried out in 2009. I don't doubt that the central theme is still true today, but the figures may be very different.
I also noticed that the original research was carried out by Admiral asking 2 million of it's own customers. Given that Admiral was set up in the early 90's with the aim of targeting those who traditionally pay higher than average premiums (guess who they could be talking about) Is it not surprising that there is a high rate of accidents amongst it's own customers? If 2 million saga insurance customers were questioned would the same statistics occur? I don't think so and as I said before the figures may be very different.
And lo and behold at the same time as admiral shocked the nation with its statistics it launched a new learner driving scheme with lessons charged at an hour for children as young as eleven!
I also noticed that the original research was carried out by Admiral asking 2 million of it's own customers. Given that Admiral was set up in the early 90's with the aim of targeting those who traditionally pay higher than average premiums (guess who they could be talking about) Is it not surprising that there is a high rate of accidents amongst it's own customers? If 2 million saga insurance customers were questioned would the same statistics occur? I don't think so and as I said before the figures may be very different.
And lo and behold at the same time as admiral shocked the nation with its statistics it launched a new learner driving scheme with lessons charged at an hour for children as young as eleven!
I agree that the insurance companies will use statistics to gain revenue, anyone who can gain from using statistics is likely to do so, it is very easy to manipulate figures by targeting certain areas/age groups/gender etc when carrying out surveys.
That said though similar figures are given by other parties such as those below from ITV.
2:15am, Mon 19 Nov 2012 Young drivers to face curbs
Young drivers on road: Statistics
Last updated Mon 19 Nov 2012 UK
As many 5,419 people were killed or seriously injured in accidents involving at least one young car driver last year.
In 2011, 2,776 young people were killed or seriously injured on UK roads . Rural areas top the list of places that accidents are most likely to happen.
The single biggest cause of accidental death of young people aged 15-24 is road accident.
40% of 17 year old males have an accident in their first six months of driving.
One in eight drivers is under 25, but they account for a third of people who die on UK roads.
18-year-old driver is three times more likely to be involved in a crash than a 48 year-old driver.
This one is by an accident direct company who seem to be trying to clarify the statistics but in the end admit that the facts are true though they do highlight some factors which might account could throw some light on the subject, for example they highlight just when a lot of those accidents occur, a higher % being in the evening when they believe traffic is lighter and youngsters may be affected by drugs or alcohol, or could it be that the higher % in evenings is due to the fact that there are a greater number of youngsters driving in the evenings when many older road users are at home ?
The AA though agree with the insurance companies and claims companies and government ....
The ‘perfect storm’ of circumstances surrounding drivers’ first accidents has been revealed in a new report, launched by Nigel Mansell at the Silverstone Classic.
Key findings of the report centre on a survey of motorists on the AA-Populus* panel who have been involved in car crashes.
Drivers who had been involved in a crash revealed that nearly 40 per cent of them had crashed by the time they were 23 years old.
The results also show that a quarter (26%) of those who are involved in a crash have crashed within two years of gaining their licence.
That said though similar figures are given by other parties such as those below from ITV.
2:15am, Mon 19 Nov 2012 Young drivers to face curbs
Young drivers on road: Statistics
Last updated Mon 19 Nov 2012 UK
As many 5,419 people were killed or seriously injured in accidents involving at least one young car driver last year.
In 2011, 2,776 young people were killed or seriously injured on UK roads . Rural areas top the list of places that accidents are most likely to happen.
The single biggest cause of accidental death of young people aged 15-24 is road accident.
40% of 17 year old males have an accident in their first six months of driving.
One in eight drivers is under 25, but they account for a third of people who die on UK roads.
18-year-old driver is three times more likely to be involved in a crash than a 48 year-old driver.
This one is by an accident direct company who seem to be trying to clarify the statistics but in the end admit that the facts are true though they do highlight some factors which might account could throw some light on the subject, for example they highlight just when a lot of those accidents occur, a higher % being in the evening when they believe traffic is lighter and youngsters may be affected by drugs or alcohol, or could it be that the higher % in evenings is due to the fact that there are a greater number of youngsters driving in the evenings when many older road users are at home ?
The AA though agree with the insurance companies and claims companies and government ....
The ‘perfect storm’ of circumstances surrounding drivers’ first accidents has been revealed in a new report, launched by Nigel Mansell at the Silverstone Classic.
Key findings of the report centre on a survey of motorists on the AA-Populus* panel who have been involved in car crashes.
Drivers who had been involved in a crash revealed that nearly 40 per cent of them had crashed by the time they were 23 years old.
The results also show that a quarter (26%) of those who are involved in a crash have crashed within two years of gaining their licence.
Sex God
The facts, however presented and by whom, are clear to see and I don't think anyone can deny that younger drivers are more likely to have an accident, I certainly don't.
There are many reasons why this occurs, but I personally don't believe that age in itself is the prime factor.
There are many reasons why this occurs, but I personally don't believe that age in itself is the prime factor.
I agree to an extent, I believe it is inexperience, but younger people are always going to be the largest group of inexperienced drivers. Inexperience, peer pressure, adrenalin, drugs, drink are all factors, I know all ages drink and drive but drinking and driving with less experience makes it an even greater risk. When I was a young driver I recall many times when friends in the car I was driving urged me to go faster ie peer pressure, wanting to impress the girlfriend etc
Sex God
You have listed many reasons there why younger drivers tend to be less safe. Not one of the reasons though is their age alone.
There is no doubt that young guys and girls are full of confidence and seemingly invincible (to themselves) or influenced by peers and social factors is a central core of the reasoning behind younger drivers having accidents. Not in my mind anyway.
But inexperience is a massive factor. You mentioned experience several times, I wonder how many people that pass their test in their 30's have an accident in their first few years of driving, or their 50's for that matter.
Age is irrelevant and is just a convenient pigeon hole. Experience is the key in my opinion.
There is no doubt that young guys and girls are full of confidence and seemingly invincible (to themselves) or influenced by peers and social factors is a central core of the reasoning behind younger drivers having accidents. Not in my mind anyway.
But inexperience is a massive factor. You mentioned experience several times, I wonder how many people that pass their test in their 30's have an accident in their first few years of driving, or their 50's for that matter.
Age is irrelevant and is just a convenient pigeon hole. Experience is the key in my opinion.
Sex God
Quote by Trevaunance
You have listed many reasons there why younger drivers tend to be less safe. Not one of the reasons though is their age alone.
There is no doubt that young guys and girls are full of confidence and seemingly invincible (to themselves) or influenced by peers and social factors is a central core of the reasoning behind younger drivers having accidents. Not in my mind anyway.
But inexperience is a massive factor. You mentioned experience several times, I wonder how many people that pass their test in their 30's have an accident in their first few years of driving, or their 50's for that matter.
Age is irrelevant and is just a convenient pigeon hole. Experience is the key in my opinion.
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