It’s a good job I‘ve got broad shoulders cos I think I might need them after I’ve posted this……
I’ve had conversations with a few bi-females recently and they mostly seem to be telling me the same thing……..they’re finding it very difficult to meet other genuine bi-females for a number of reasons:
Timewasters
Pic collectors
Guys pretending to be girls
Guys pretending to be couples
Couples pretending to be single females
Couples wanting the partner to watch
Couples wanting threesomes when the wife is supposedly advertising to play alone
Having to meet in unfamiliar surroundings
Etc, etc
If the response is favourable then I’m going to arrange a social meet for bi-females ONLY on Sat 31st July. Yes it will be at my place and yes I will be there (you don’t expect me to hand over my keys to a bunch of strangers do you?) but there won’t be any husbands, boyfriends, partners, kids, pets or drunk guys trying to chat you up. It will just be a social evening in what I can guarantee will be safe surroundings. You can even turn it into a Tupperware party if you like.
The people on here that know me will know that this is a genuine offer to do something positive and for those that don’t know me and are wondering “what do you get out of it?†the answer is nothing, I’m just trying to cut some of the crap out of the system.
Some of you may also be thinking “Oh, that’s a good idea but I don’t fancy going because somebody in the café said that most single guys live in a grubby little bedsit with unhygienic toiletsâ€. Well this one doesn’t and there are plenty of people on here that will confirm it.
So it’s over to you really. If the response is favourable I’ll go ahead and arrange it. If the response isn’t favourable then I’ll just have to assume that there really are a lot of people out there pretending to be something that they’re not. All I ask is that if it does go ahead you bring your own Lambrini and chocolate buttons and please don’t spill red wine on my carpet.
Steve
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Might be better arranging an Ann Summers party rather than Tupperware! - but still good on yer for providing a service that is obviously required!!
And for the other single guys who think 'what a good idea, I'll have some of that' - Sod off! Steve has already taken time and effort to build his reputation on here, so that makes this a genuine offer!
Mal
And for the other single guys who think 'what a good idea, I'll have some of that' - Sod off! Steve has already taken time and effort to build his reputation on here, so that makes this a genuine offer!
Mal
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Well I have to consult a certain somebody to see how he'd feel about me going but if he's ok about it I'll be there (assuming I'm not the only person to reply saying yes lol)
Quote by roger743
I'mat Steve's post. Go Steve!
I was expecting more responses like Rogers than there has been to be honest but I'll take the fact that there hasn't to mean that most people are taking what I've suggested seriously.
As well as DreamerHelen and Angel-Chat expressing an interest I've also had a pm from somebody that doesn't want her interest to be made public. Considering that the post has only been up for just over 12 hours I think the response so far has been very good and if it carries on like this then I'll definitely arrange it.
Steve
Quote by steveg_nw
I was expecting more responses like Rogers than there has been to be honest but I'll take the fact that there hasn't to mean that most people are taking what I've suggested seriously.
Sorry, I didn't mean any offence, it's just that the "social meet for bi-fems only... yes I will be there" bit cracks me up. I'm sure you're very serious, and sincere, and all that; it's just such a cliche. :lol2:
i recall a couple of months ago maybe someone getting slated big time because they suggested a something "ONLY" munch / meeting, everyone inc the mods were quick to say that its not fair to limit who can and can not go, its a site for all of us, does this smack of double standards or what? 
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i recall a couple of months ago maybe someone getting slated big time because they suggested a something "ONLY" munch / meeting, everyone inc the mods were quick to say that its not fair to limit who can and can not go, its a site for all of us, does this smack of double standards or what?
I remember the post, it was about organising a "couples only munch". I haven't mentioned the word munch anywhere at all in this thread so I'm at a loss as to why you've brought it up. I know what a munch is, I've had a hand in arranging two of the biggest ones we've had and there's another one coming up next month.
There are 139 pages in the "Let's Meet Up" section and I'd guess that 99% of them are to arrange private meets and 1% are to arrange a munch. This post is no different to the other 99% in as much as I'm looking to arrange a private meet, albeit a slightly different one. I don't think I've ever been accused of having double standards before. :shock:
Steve
Quote by Marya
I've been given his blessing to go but the date is no good for me :cry:
Awwwww Marya!!
:( The choices were these:
17th July – Could be too soon for people to make arrangements
24th July – The Edinburgh munch
31st July – Possible date. Can’t see any other plans in the forum
7th Aug – SurreySingle’s party
14th August – Another possible date
21st August – The NW munch
28th August – Another possible date
4th September – Sex Maniacs Ball
The 31st July just seemed like a good date so that’s the one I went for. It could just as easily have been one of the others.
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Might be better arranging an Ann Summers party rather than Tupperware!
That can easily be arranged. It did cross my mind but I thought it would be inappropriate. I could always be wrong though.........
Steve
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Quote by se7endriver
i recall a couple of months ago maybe someone getting slated big time because they suggested a something "ONLY" munch / meeting, everyone inc the mods were quick to say that its not fair to limit who can and can not go, its a site for all of us, does this smack of double standards or what?
<sigh> Whats going on? I go offline for one night only (yes, I know, it makes a change!) and all hell breaks loose over this! As an ex single bi-fem (only difference now being that I'm not single) I appreciate the thought of a gathering of like minded women because as someone said in a seperate thread it's difficult to tell who would welcome the advances of a bi fem. Not every female is bi or even curious and it's a massively subject amongst women. We dont generally talk about our bi feelings, in my experience because of a) our upbringings and b) peer pressure.
How are bi women supposed to know which other women are bi or curious? We (I think) all have hang-ups about talking about it, even in an open-minded forum such as this. You only need to look at CarrieAnn's thread in the cafe to know that. She came out and asked openly about it. How many of the rest of us have? I know for certain I haven't and I take my metaphorical hat off to CarrieAnn for doing so.
Yes, it's socially acceptable (and positively encouraged by many males) for us women to be bi or curious HERE, but in day to day life it isn't, and I wouldnt feel comfortable talking to (for instance) my work colleagues about it. If someone has the gumption and forethought to suggest a meeting of likeminded females, I dont think that they should be shot down for it. I personally applaud Steve for his idea. This COULD be because I spoke to him in private about it last night (ok the night before, picky :roll: ) and I know he is prepared for the backlash and even the possibility of being ridiculed for it. Having met him on a couple of occasions I know that he isn't one for making advances, so I feel comfortable in attending if it goes ahead - without the worry that he has us there under false pretences to get a 3 or more-some.
If there are a few bi females who feel the same way as I do and would like to meet up for a few drinks then I look forward to meeting them. I don't see it as double standards at all, but I suppose I'm laying myself open to cries of "you would say that, you aren't excluded".
If anyone wants to organise a meeting of straight males who WLTM bi females, go ahead. I hope you all have fun. I personally don't see the need to advertise it on here. There are plenty of those every night in your local. Show me to the group of bi-females in the same pub and I'll gladly join them, but good luck in getting them to all admit it.
I'm a little bit surprised that so many people seem so defensive about this. IIRC, much of the criticism of the "couples-only meeting" topic was along the lines of "hey, it's a non-play meet, why wouldn't you want to meet and get to know the wonderful single male personalities too?" It seems blindingly obvious that the exact-same criticism transfers to a meeting for single bi-fems (or for one to single bi guys, single straight guys, bi-fem couples, whatever).
Now, if you want to say - as various people have done - "Hey, there's special issues facing single bi-fems, it makes sense for them to get together to discuss them", then surely that's fine - I don't see it as an illegitimate reason. (I think it's hilarious that a fella is organising this, but as I said, good luck to him.) BUT I think likewise there's "special issues" facing straight couples, single straight guys, bi guys, bi-fem couples... Just different special issues. It wouldn't seem right to pooh-pooh the idea of a social meet for one demographic if you're in favour of a social meet for another.
(OTOH, for all this talk of a "social meet", it has to be said that Steve's original post makes it sound like the point isn't so much social interaction and discussion as meeting people for potential future sexual escapades.)
Naughty girl.
Angel, your homework tonight is to disguise yourself as a man and spend two hours talking about swinging with a group of other men in your local pub.
Now, if you want to say - as various people have done - "Hey, there's special issues facing single bi-fems, it makes sense for them to get together to discuss them", then surely that's fine - I don't see it as an illegitimate reason. (I think it's hilarious that a fella is organising this, but as I said, good luck to him.) BUT I think likewise there's "special issues" facing straight couples, single straight guys, bi guys, bi-fem couples... Just different special issues. It wouldn't seem right to pooh-pooh the idea of a social meet for one demographic if you're in favour of a social meet for another.
(OTOH, for all this talk of a "social meet", it has to be said that Steve's original post makes it sound like the point isn't so much social interaction and discussion as meeting people for potential future sexual escapades.)
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If anyone wants to organise a meeting of straight males who WLTM bi females, go ahead. I hope you all have fun. I personally don't see the need to advertise it on here. There are plenty of those every night in your local.
Naughty girl.
Angel, your homework tonight is to disguise yourself as a man and spend two hours talking about swinging with a group of other men in your local pub. 
Mod
Quote by se7endriver
munch...............meeting whats the difference? maybe the person who suggested the couples only munch should have termed it a couples only meeting then all would be fine im sure.
Perhaps thereby lies the problem, Se7en, you not knowing the difference between a Munch and a meeting. As previously mentioned, Steve never onced mentioned a Munch as, having organised the largest Munches for this Site, including the one you attended, he knows exactly what one is. Meetings can be anything at all and people can do whatever they want with whoever they want. If the people who were organising the so-called 'couples only' Munch had just called it a 'couples only' meeting, no, we wouldn't have kicked off over it.
Quote by Roger
It wouldn't seem right to pooh-pooh the idea of a social meet for one demographic if you're in favour of a social meet for another.
(OTOH, for all this talk of a "social meet", it has to be said that Steve's original post makes it sound like the point isn't so much social interaction and discussion as meeting people for potential future sexual escapades.)
First point Roger, quite right. But this isn't about that, it's about confusing a Munch with a meeting, which I have already outlined above.
Second point, - so what if they do? It's a Swingers site, FFS!!
Mal
Whoa…………..slow down guys! :shock:
I haven’t even confirmed that anything’s going to happen at all yet, I’ve only mooted the idea.
Roger, I agree that it does seem a little incongruous that a guy would be arranging it but the original suggestion is still valid. I’d be happy to pass the buck over to one of the girls now that the interest is there so they could arrange it for themselves.
Dragging up the post that was put in the café asking if there were any arrangements in the offing for a “couples only munch†is clouding the issue . The emotive response to that post was not because it was a couple hoping to meet other couples but because they were using the term munch and were looking to exclude people. The concept of a munch has grown to mean something very specific on this site and they’ve been very successful so far as I'm sure se7endriver can attest. I suspect there ar other reasons for it ever being brought up at all.
The bottom line is that a member of this site can attempt to organise whatever they damned well like as long as it doesn’t break the site’s Acceptable Use Policy. If I wanted to organise an all male dogging expedition around the car parks of North West of England then I'd make a post about it. If I wanted to advertise to get a group of bi-guys into the Guinness Book of Records for creating the longest daisy chain ever witnessed then yes, I'd make a post about it. If bluexxx wanted to get 140 guys together to break the World Blow Job record or Heather wanted 10 straight guys for a gang bang would all the girls start moaning about being excluded?.......I don't think so!
Steve
I haven’t even confirmed that anything’s going to happen at all yet, I’ve only mooted the idea.
Roger, I agree that it does seem a little incongruous that a guy would be arranging it but the original suggestion is still valid. I’d be happy to pass the buck over to one of the girls now that the interest is there so they could arrange it for themselves.
Dragging up the post that was put in the café asking if there were any arrangements in the offing for a “couples only munch†is clouding the issue . The emotive response to that post was not because it was a couple hoping to meet other couples but because they were using the term munch and were looking to exclude people. The concept of a munch has grown to mean something very specific on this site and they’ve been very successful so far as I'm sure se7endriver can attest. I suspect there ar other reasons for it ever being brought up at all.
The bottom line is that a member of this site can attempt to organise whatever they damned well like as long as it doesn’t break the site’s Acceptable Use Policy. If I wanted to organise an all male dogging expedition around the car parks of North West of England then I'd make a post about it. If I wanted to advertise to get a group of bi-guys into the Guinness Book of Records for creating the longest daisy chain ever witnessed then yes, I'd make a post about it. If bluexxx wanted to get 140 guys together to break the World Blow Job record or Heather wanted 10 straight guys for a gang bang would all the girls start moaning about being excluded?.......I don't think so!
Steve
correct me if im wrong Mal but people can do what ever the hell they like with who ever the hell they like at a munch too, it may not be advertised as such but if all parties are in agreement then it happens...................................exactly the same as a meeting
No difference in my book. and i very much doubt no one would have kicked off if it had been called a meeting - it would have been shot down as a bad idea from the start as it was anyway.
Doesnt the word "meet" make people think of a small number of people ie 2 , 3 or 4, and a munch means more than that meeting socially. Isnt Steve sugesting a place for many bi ladies to gather socially, surely that would make it a munch not a meet?
No difference in my book. and i very much doubt no one would have kicked off if it had been called a meeting - it would have been shot down as a bad idea from the start as it was anyway.
Doesnt the word "meet" make people think of a small number of people ie 2 , 3 or 4, and a munch means more than that meeting socially. Isnt Steve sugesting a place for many bi ladies to gather socially, surely that would make it a munch not a meet?
Quote by steveg_nw
If bluexxx wanted to get 140 guys together to break the World Blow Job record or Heather wanted 10 straight guys for a gang bang would all the girls start moaning about being excluded?
Before we get that brush out... Obviously I'm not privy to any PMs that have been sent to you, but how many guys are actually moaning about being excluded from this?
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correct me if im wrong Mal but people can do what ever the hell they like with who ever the hell they like at a munch too, it may not be advertised as such but if all parties are in agreement then it happens...................................exactly the same as a meeting
I'm sure Mal will correct you but seeing that he's not on line let me do it. You're wrong! The munch is usually held in a pub or similar and is purely a social event. If the people that are there want to arrange to go to a club afterwards (as you did) then that is their business. Once they set foot outside the pub doors though they've left the munch.
Quote by se7endriver
No difference in my book. and i very much doubt no one would have kicked off if it had been called a meeting - it would have been shot down as a bad idea from the start as it was anyway.
You need a new book. Couples are advertising to meet other couples all over the site. Who is trying to shoot them down?
Quote by se7endriver
Doesnt the word "meet" make people think of a small number of people ie 2 , 3 or 4, and a munch means more than that meeting socially. Isnt Steve sugesting a place for many bi ladies to gather socially, surely that would make it a munch not a meet?
The SW munch turned into a munch for 2 couples. Was it a meet because it was such a small number? No, it was a small munch in a pub.
Steve
Quote by DreamerHelen
Oh FFS, I don't want to piss off anybody here but why are people shooting down Steveg_nw when all he's done is try to arrange a meet-up?
Oh FFS, why is everyone getting their hair in such a tizzy over this? Is it really such a sensitive subject that any comment other than "hey Steve just try to stop me coming" must be negative? Who's shooting down Steveg_nw? By my reckoning there's been 30 replies to this topic, and only one of them has been even a little bit negative. Surely that's anything but shooting down?
It's almost as though people were expecting a huge uproar of discontent about this idea, and are acting as though there is one even though there isn't.