For full details - you need to look under 'photo ads' then 'clubs and parties' then click on'big yorkshire meet' - See the link here: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-80454.html
This will be the 2nd Yorkshire meeting we've had - hope to build on the success of the last one!
You're all welcome to come along - last time we had lots of newbies and some experienced swingers.
It's all pre-arranged, free to get in etc, normal price pub drinks. there's a disco and quiet areas to talk too - great night last time!
For full details - you need to look under 'photo ads' then 'clubs and parties' then click on'big yorkshire meet' - Here's the link: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-80454.html
Hope to see you there with plenty others!
John
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BIG YORKSHIRE MEETING - This Friday 30th April.
Interested in coming?
excuse me for being daft but .......i can't get something in my head....people where asking last time if the munch really was on and we verified that it was because we where there ...now then another one as been arranged by Alpha and i must say that he does go to alot of work to make it a sucess but still people are doubting it . Can i ask why this is please? People asked for it to be on a friday....... its on a friday with plenty notice
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People asked for it to be on a friday....... its on a friday with plenty notice
Plenty of notice to me suggests more than a week. I'd say several weeks to be honest, as I need to sort out childcare arrangements if I'm to go anywhere overnight.
I personally was a bit put off by the lack of feedback after the last meeting, the only comment I saw about the numbers that were there said there were 3 people and John. Doesnt really inspire me to drop any previous arrangements (Friday 30th was arranged weeks ago in my case so I'm most definitely busy that day) because if I'm only going to put faces to 3 names its a very long way to go and do that. I'm sure Alpha does go to a lot of trouble, I've had the pleasure of chatting to him in PMs, but a munch that can't even boast double figures just doesn't instill me with a raging desire to attend.
Sorry John, and its by no means any offence to you personally, just an answer to the previous question.
Angel
Right I'm back at PC now 
Thanx again Upforit - and no offence taken Angelchat...
Let's put things straight then..... I'm quite NARKED about all this as you'll see when you read this! The questions I pose are not directed at anyone in particular. Here goes, first I'll answer Angelchat's questions:
number of people who came last time was about 30, soz if i missed a zero there...
lack of feedback may well have had something to do with the mod's of SH freezing the thread so no more comments could be made on that post... Here's what hapened:
It took me ages last time to convince the mods that I / the event was for real. That whiled away around a week of the notice I would've given. Then I was getting mixed messages from the various mods on what I was allowed to put on the post - Don't get me wrong I'm gratefull for them to have allowed it at all... Still confusing though when one says one thing and another mod says something else. Anyway, I was asking lots of questions and being very wary of what the correct protocol was - I didn't want to piss anyone off from SH... A few days before the date of the event, in the confusion or put it down to a misunderstanding whatever - I put the details of the venue, address etc, on the post... Apparently a BIG no no that! I would never have done it unless I thought it'd been cleared by the mods, obvioulsly I didn't want it deleting eh? I believed that - because I had arranged security, we could put the full details of the venue, date etc, on the post. I believed this due to a misunderstanding / interpretation of a reply from a mod.
3. I first PM'd a mod about this event about 3 weeks ago - seems a lack of interest there then?
I've written to the mods about the above points too. It's not that I don't appreciate what they did for my event last time on the run up to the event - I'm gratefull for that. It's more like I reckon they should get their heads together and come up with some solid rules. As for not allowing me to post this event under 'lets meet up' this time seems petty and completely against what you'd've thought this site was trying to promote. I wouldn't make the mistake of naming the place again anyway eh? (Wonder if they ever have munches in the same place twice then- After the 1st, won't word get around anyway??) Seems very 'clicky' to me - even though they told me we couldn't restrict anyone to the sort of meet I proposed. Hypocritical too then? I also find it marvellous that there's a sticky for the 'NorthWest' munch, arranged by a mod, attended by loads of people from far & wide (and read by 9000+ by now). One of the points against me before was that I hadn't been a mamber of SH long, therefore I was unknown and therefore mistrusted. Just makes me wonder if all the people who attend the NW munch know the organisers then? And how well having read a few posts on here? What so like it's - he must be OK, does lots of writing on SH... does it really work like that? As far as I'm concerned I've proved that I'm for real and that this event is for real. Anyone can come look at the venue etc, it did occur last time, I have phone numbers if the mods would like to check it out - in fact they've allready got them... Would've thought Yorkshire, in the middle of the country, would be better placed to serve more people than the NorthWest? How do you get credibility on this site? Or do others have to get over themselves first? I've lost a lot of faith in SH. How much more real do you want me to be about this... I'm a pro dj with experience of making other good club nights / various events run smoothly. I know a lot of people who own / manage clubs. I know one in particular that's in a great spot for a meeting. I know qualified bouncers etc - I know bouncers into the scene, I know the manager of the venue in the great spot is willing and into the scene. It's a nice place, ideally suited - few miles from the A1.. What more do they want? Are they acting in the best interest of SH members by being like this?
The Yorkshire meet will take place as posted - Re read the top of this page you're looking at to find details (the link will take you to the photo ads clubs and parties section and to my ad there) - If it's crap now, If it turns out to be a failure, If the manager stops us having future meets in the venue - I won't be blaming myself for the loss of what could be a good meeting night for swingers. Why the hell arn't they happy and doing a lot more to help me here?
Slightly aerated & irate....
John.
Thanx again Upforit - and no offence taken Angelchat...
Let's put things straight then..... I'm quite NARKED about all this as you'll see when you read this! The questions I pose are not directed at anyone in particular. Here goes, first I'll answer Angelchat's questions:
number of people who came last time was about 30, soz if i missed a zero there...
lack of feedback may well have had something to do with the mod's of SH freezing the thread so no more comments could be made on that post... Here's what hapened:
It took me ages last time to convince the mods that I / the event was for real. That whiled away around a week of the notice I would've given. Then I was getting mixed messages from the various mods on what I was allowed to put on the post - Don't get me wrong I'm gratefull for them to have allowed it at all... Still confusing though when one says one thing and another mod says something else. Anyway, I was asking lots of questions and being very wary of what the correct protocol was - I didn't want to piss anyone off from SH... A few days before the date of the event, in the confusion or put it down to a misunderstanding whatever - I put the details of the venue, address etc, on the post... Apparently a BIG no no that! I would never have done it unless I thought it'd been cleared by the mods, obvioulsly I didn't want it deleting eh? I believed that - because I had arranged security, we could put the full details of the venue, date etc, on the post. I believed this due to a misunderstanding / interpretation of a reply from a mod.
3. I first PM'd a mod about this event about 3 weeks ago - seems a lack of interest there then?
I've written to the mods about the above points too. It's not that I don't appreciate what they did for my event last time on the run up to the event - I'm gratefull for that. It's more like I reckon they should get their heads together and come up with some solid rules. As for not allowing me to post this event under 'lets meet up' this time seems petty and completely against what you'd've thought this site was trying to promote. I wouldn't make the mistake of naming the place again anyway eh? (Wonder if they ever have munches in the same place twice then- After the 1st, won't word get around anyway??) Seems very 'clicky' to me - even though they told me we couldn't restrict anyone to the sort of meet I proposed. Hypocritical too then? I also find it marvellous that there's a sticky for the 'NorthWest' munch, arranged by a mod, attended by loads of people from far & wide (and read by 9000+ by now). One of the points against me before was that I hadn't been a mamber of SH long, therefore I was unknown and therefore mistrusted. Just makes me wonder if all the people who attend the NW munch know the organisers then? And how well having read a few posts on here? What so like it's - he must be OK, does lots of writing on SH... does it really work like that? As far as I'm concerned I've proved that I'm for real and that this event is for real. Anyone can come look at the venue etc, it did occur last time, I have phone numbers if the mods would like to check it out - in fact they've allready got them... Would've thought Yorkshire, in the middle of the country, would be better placed to serve more people than the NorthWest? How do you get credibility on this site? Or do others have to get over themselves first? I've lost a lot of faith in SH. How much more real do you want me to be about this... I'm a pro dj with experience of making other good club nights / various events run smoothly. I know a lot of people who own / manage clubs. I know one in particular that's in a great spot for a meeting. I know qualified bouncers etc - I know bouncers into the scene, I know the manager of the venue in the great spot is willing and into the scene. It's a nice place, ideally suited - few miles from the A1.. What more do they want? Are they acting in the best interest of SH members by being like this?
The Yorkshire meet will take place as posted - Re read the top of this page you're looking at to find details (the link will take you to the photo ads clubs and parties section and to my ad there) - If it's crap now, If it turns out to be a failure, If the manager stops us having future meets in the venue - I won't be blaming myself for the loss of what could be a good meeting night for swingers. Why the hell arn't they happy and doing a lot more to help me here?
Slightly aerated & irate....
John.
:sparring: John... you have consistantly failed to listen to us or take on board any of the advice we've offered. I went to pains to make you see exactly what you did wrong anyway and you've chosen to ignore it. Give folks WEEKS notice, do NOT list venues or times, screen EVERYONE who enters the premises and keep accurate lists of who is expected and reject anyone not on your list.
More or less the ONLY input you've had to this site has been to plug these munches or yours. You've not invested time or effort to win people's trust or gain a reputation.
So you're losing out financially? Why the f*** or you bothering, then? Why not go on one of the OTHER munches?
For the record to anyone reading this impartially, John has chosen to link his Munches to a specific venue with which he has working links... he's always been upfront about it, true... but we can't make him see that by allying to fixed venue it's classed as a commercial concern and therefore doesn't belong in Lets Meet Up.
It's not hard to get the message, John...Either drop the venue and settle for a quite night down the pub OR be upfront and get thee hence to the Clubs and Parties section...
Mod
Hi John
I appreciate that you are trying to organise another Munch and you feel you are persecuted by other Site members. However, we are still trying to establish your credence, which you do not seem to make that easily. You may consider me a sceptic, but you have only had one, possibly two members say they went to the last one. When I asked how many went previously, you said about 30 or 40, which was half of those who said they would be coming. If you look at previous threads about Munches, loads of people publicly said they would be going. then afterwards, loads of people said how good it was and who they met. One swallow does not a summer make - or in other words, one or two posts does not instil confidence that your 'munch' was full of members of this site.
If you really do want to establish how good your last one was, how about PM'ing me with the list of people who said they would attend, approximately 60-80 by your reckoning, along with the list of those who actually turned up. I can then verify ON YOUR BEHALF, the validity of your claims. This can only be to your benefit.
The choice is yours mate.
Mal
I appreciate that you are trying to organise another Munch and you feel you are persecuted by other Site members. However, we are still trying to establish your credence, which you do not seem to make that easily. You may consider me a sceptic, but you have only had one, possibly two members say they went to the last one. When I asked how many went previously, you said about 30 or 40, which was half of those who said they would be coming. If you look at previous threads about Munches, loads of people publicly said they would be going. then afterwards, loads of people said how good it was and who they met. One swallow does not a summer make - or in other words, one or two posts does not instil confidence that your 'munch' was full of members of this site.
If you really do want to establish how good your last one was, how about PM'ing me with the list of people who said they would attend, approximately 60-80 by your reckoning, along with the list of those who actually turned up. I can then verify ON YOUR BEHALF, the validity of your claims. This can only be to your benefit.
The choice is yours mate.
Mal
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Right I'm back at PC now
Thanx again Upforit - and no offence taken Angelchat...
Let's put things straight then..... I'm quite NARKED about all this as you'll see when you read this! The questions I pose are not directed at anyone in particular. Here goes, first I'll answer Angelchat's questions:
number of people who came last time was about 30, soz if i missed a zero there...
lack of feedback may well have had something to do with the mod's of SH freezing the thread so no more comments could be made on that post... Here's what hapened:
It took me ages last time to convince the mods that I / the event was for real.
That’s hardly surprising. You joined the site 2 days after I posted the thread for the NW munch and your first post (made at ) was “Yorkshire MUNCH . Not the most credible of starts is it?
That whiled away around a week of the notice I would've given. Then I was getting mixed messages from the various mods on what I was allowed to put on the post –
The format for every munch arranged so far has been the same “ I’m arranging a munch on this date in this area. Everyone is welcome to come so please get in touch. To protect everyone’s privacy the exact details of the venue will only be given out nearer the
Don't get me wrong I'm gratefull for them to have allowed it at all... Still confusing though when one says one thing and another mod says something else.
As far as I was aware you were dealing with Kat. Why did you then decide to contact other mods to ask the same questions? There are no hard and fast rules for things like munches. These aren’t events organised by Swinging Heaven, they are events organised by the members of Swinging Heaven for the benefit of other members of Swinging Heaven.
Anyway, I was asking lots of questions and being very wary of what the correct protocol was - I didn't want to piss anyone off from SH... A few days before the date of the event, in the confusion or put it down to a misunderstanding whatever - I put the details of the venue, address etc, on the post... Apparently a BIG no no that!
Yep, that would have upset a few people. It was only the week before that the Midlands Munch lost half of it’s attendees due to the Stan Collymore fiasco and the worries about press intrusion. Then again, how would you know? You weren’t a member the week before.
I would never have done it unless I thought it'd been cleared by the mods, obvioulsly I didn't want it deleting eh? I believed that - because I had arranged security, we could put the full details of the venue, date etc, on the post. I believed this due to a misunderstanding / interpretation of a reply from a mod.
3. I first PM'd a mod about this event about 3 weeks ago - seems a lack of interest there then?
I don’t know who you contacted but I find it strange that one of the mods would take three weeks to reply to you.
I've written to the mods about the above points too. It's not that I don't appreciate what they did for my event last time on the run up to the event - I'm gratefull for that. It's more like I reckon they should get their heads together and come up with some solid rules.
Swinging Heaven doesn’t have any rules for how people go about arranging these events because they’re private events. We do however have ‘rules’ about who posts what where. If your event is in some way connected to a commercial enterprise, even if it’s only to boost beer sales for the night, then it doesn’t get posted in the Let’s meet up section.
As for not allowing me to post this event under 'lets meet up' this time seems petty and completely against what you'd've thought this site was trying to promote.
One minute you want us to make some rules and the next we’re petty for enforcing them? Swinging Heaven isn’t trying to promote anything. Mark created this site as a place for the people that use it. In his words it’s “a site run by swingers for the benefit of swingersâ€.
I wouldn't make the mistake of naming the place again anyway eh? (Wonder if they ever have munches in the same place twice then- After the 1st, won't word get around anyway??)
As far as I’m aware there hasn’t yet been a munch held in the same place twice. There have been two London munches (not including the Croydon one) and they were held at different places. This will be the second NW munch and that too will be held at a different venue to the first one.
Seems very 'clicky' to me - even though they told me we couldn't restrict anyone to the sort of meet I proposed. Hypocritical too then?
What seems cliquey? The only restrictions I’ve seen placed on a munch are that the people that don’t really use the site don’t get the details. I can assure you that I’m one of the least cliquey people on here. Correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to remember that in your subsequent posts about arranging a munch you were looking for females and couples with limited spaces for single males? ie, not a munch.
I also find it marvellous that there's a sticky for the 'NorthWest' munch, arranged by a mod, attended by loads of people from far & wide (and read by 9000+ by now).
Read by almost 10,000 now. Then again, it has been there for longer than you’ve been a member so people have had a lot of time to read it. Apologies for the sarcasm but you have to admit that there’s a bit of a difference between my arranging a munch and you wanting to have two of them done and dusted in a lesser amount of time. I can’t see how you can compare the two.
One of the points against me before was that I hadn't been a mamber of SH long, therefore I was unknown and therefore mistrusted. Just makes me wonder if all the people who attend the NW munch know the organisers then? And how well having read a few posts on here? What so like it's - he must be OK, does lots of writing on SH... does it really work like that?
Not all of them no, but……………Of the 78 or so people that came to the first NW munch I knew over 30 of them personally. We had all been using Swinging Heaven for quite a while and had met each other under different social circumstances. When they said they were coming I knew I could trust them to come and they knew they could trust me to arrange it. I suppose for the rest of them it took a “leap of faithâ€. How big a leap you’ll have to ask them.
There are well over 100 coming to the next one and I don’t know anywhere near the same percentage of people. A lot of the people I do know have vouched for others and yes I’m pretty confident that most will turn up.
As far as I'm concerned I've proved that I'm for real and that this event is for real. Anyone can come look at the venue etc, it did occur last time, I have phone numbers if the mods would like to check it out - in fact they've allready got them... Would've thought Yorkshire, in the middle of the country, would be better placed to serve more people than the NorthWest?
I’m not arranging a munch in the North West because it serves the most people, I’m doing it because I live there. Other people have arranged munches in the South West, the Midlands, London, Croydon and Edinburgh. There are quite a lot of people from Yorkshire, Lincs and the East Midlands using this site that would probably love to see a munch over that side of the country.
How do you get credibility on this site? Or do others have to get over themselves first?
It takes time and effort to get credibility anywhere and this site is no different. I don’t even know what you mean by the second question.
I've lost a lot of faith in SH. How much more real do you want me to be about this...
The mods can’t wave a magic wand to give someone credibility, you have to earn people’s trust. The thread from your first attempt went from having hardly any response at all to suddenly having an e-mail box full of replies. If people had seen some feedback from these 30 or so people that had attended your score on the credibility meter would be very healthy by now.
I'm a pro dj with experience of making other good club nights / various events run smoothly. I know a lot of people who own / manage clubs. I know one in particular that's in a great spot for a meeting. I know qualified bouncers etc - I know bouncers into the scene, I know the manager of the venue in the great spot is willing and into the scene. It's a nice place, ideally suited - few miles from the A1.. What more do they want?
I assume that “they†is the mods? The mods on here act in the best interests of the site and its members. They’re supposed to be sceptical. What you’re suggesting sounds fine to me but you started the alarm bells ringing firstly by jumping in feet first, secondly by wanting to limit the number of single males, thirdly by making it sound like a commercial venture and fourthly by wanting everything to happen at such short notice. That’s a lot of self imposed hurdles you’ve got to jump over just to get back to the starting line.
Are they acting in the best interest of SH members by being like this?
You didn’t give them much choice from what I can see.
The Yorkshire meet will take place as posted - Re read the top of this page you're looking at to find details (the link will take you to the photo ads clubs and parties section and to my ad there) - If it's crap now, If it turns out to be a failure, If the manager stops us having future meets in the venue - I won't be blaming myself for the loss of what could be a good meeting night for swingers.
So who are you gonna blame then? Don’t tell me, the mods. You seem to be blaming the mods for not giving you the backing, and therefore the credibility, that you haven’t been able to provide for yourself. Other people have been able to arrange munches without being a mod or seeking out the approval of the mods for everything they’re doing.
Why the hell arn't they happy and doing a lot more to help me here?
It’s not the job of the mods to help people organise private parties and that’s really what a munch boils down to in the in the end, a private party in a public place.
Having said that I’ve pm’d you my mobile number. Give me a call and I’ll see if we can’t smooth the waters if it’s not too late.
Slightly aerated & irate....
John.
Steve
upforit wrote
I don't doubt that it is on, but 6 days notice leading upto a holiday weekend means that I have other things already organised. For me, plenty of notice is 4 weeks plus, preferably the plus
Also, after the other munches, lots of members post saying thank you, and what a good time they had, etc. That didn't happen with this event so there is no incentive for me to change existing plans to want to be there.
I am not having a go at anyone that's just how I feel about it, I'm also not comfortable with it being considered a munch, as there is a a definite business element to it.
excuse me for being daft but .......i can't get something in my head....people where asking last time if the munch really was on and we verified that it was because we where there ...now then another one as been arranged by Alpha and i must say that he does go to alot of work to make it a sucess but still people are doubting it . Can i ask why this is please?
People asked for it to be on a friday....... its on a friday with plenty notice
I don't doubt that it is on, but 6 days notice leading upto a holiday weekend means that I have other things already organised. For me, plenty of notice is 4 weeks plus, preferably the plus
Also, after the other munches, lots of members post saying thank you, and what a good time they had, etc. That didn't happen with this event so there is no incentive for me to change existing plans to want to be there.
I am not having a go at anyone that's just how I feel about it, I'm also not comfortable with it being considered a munch, as there is a a definite business element to it.
I'm here again! Wow, quite a reaction to that one.. Sorry for annoying people, that's not what I'm here to do....
I'll have to keep nipping back and reading your replies - you've made too many points for me to answer them all just off my head!
The reason I named the venue last time was due to a misunderstanding of a PM I recieved from KitKat on 23March at 4:13pm - was gonna quote here but I don't want to quote private messages.. Hopefully being mods you can see that message? If not and Kat OK's it I can send you a copy? Hope you can see where the confusion came from on that point now?
Mal, the post was 'locked' when I got back from the event last time - so nobody else could place comments on there either. Most of the interest I received came through Email rather than PM - the same is true this time.
Steve, I agree that to join and then straight away organise an event doesn't generate credibility - but I did give the venue details, phone number, contacts etc and offer to take pics of the venue inside and out - I hadn't been a member long but had been visiting the site some time - My interest here spurned from dogging initially. The reason I contacted other mods besides Kat was that she said this wasn't her neck of the woods - I saw there were other mods closer.
What I actually said about limiting sibgle males was this - that if it gets too popular in future, we may have to restrict the number of single blokes coming in favour of couples - limit if it's full that is. Remember I'm a dogger and with that background you expect to see 20 single blokes for every couple...
Yeah, I know I jumped in feet first - but with the best intentions. I thought I was well placed to organise something like this and could do SH a service. The reason I lose out from arranging is because I'm taking a night off from my usual DJing spot, I'm not daft enough to lose out on hundereds of pounds don't get me wrong! If that was the case then I would attend your munches instead of organising one around this area of course!
Steve, sorry if you did know a high % of people personally who came to your last munch - I didn't think that'd be the case.
I did think it necessary to contact the mods often last time about the arrangements so as not to do something wrong unintentionally and have you pull the rug from under my feet due to a misunderstanding - which is what did actually happen in the end...
Hope you can see where the misunderstanding came from now anyway? Like I said, I won't quote here...
John.
I'll have to keep nipping back and reading your replies - you've made too many points for me to answer them all just off my head!
The reason I named the venue last time was due to a misunderstanding of a PM I recieved from KitKat on 23March at 4:13pm - was gonna quote here but I don't want to quote private messages.. Hopefully being mods you can see that message? If not and Kat OK's it I can send you a copy? Hope you can see where the confusion came from on that point now?
Mal, the post was 'locked' when I got back from the event last time - so nobody else could place comments on there either. Most of the interest I received came through Email rather than PM - the same is true this time.
Steve, I agree that to join and then straight away organise an event doesn't generate credibility - but I did give the venue details, phone number, contacts etc and offer to take pics of the venue inside and out - I hadn't been a member long but had been visiting the site some time - My interest here spurned from dogging initially. The reason I contacted other mods besides Kat was that she said this wasn't her neck of the woods - I saw there were other mods closer.
What I actually said about limiting sibgle males was this - that if it gets too popular in future, we may have to restrict the number of single blokes coming in favour of couples - limit if it's full that is. Remember I'm a dogger and with that background you expect to see 20 single blokes for every couple...
Yeah, I know I jumped in feet first - but with the best intentions. I thought I was well placed to organise something like this and could do SH a service. The reason I lose out from arranging is because I'm taking a night off from my usual DJing spot, I'm not daft enough to lose out on hundereds of pounds don't get me wrong! If that was the case then I would attend your munches instead of organising one around this area of course!
Steve, sorry if you did know a high % of people personally who came to your last munch - I didn't think that'd be the case.
I did think it necessary to contact the mods often last time about the arrangements so as not to do something wrong unintentionally and have you pull the rug from under my feet due to a misunderstanding - which is what did actually happen in the end...
Hope you can see where the misunderstanding came from now anyway? Like I said, I won't quote here...
John.
Alpha. One of the first things I said to you was, "All previous munches have been organised by individuals on the site. We have never had a club attempt to do this. It is a new situation, and we will have to make it up as we go along"
And just to clarify exactly what happend at the beginning - There was never any doubt that your intention to hold a Swinging Night at the club you worked at was genuine. The only reason we exchanged PMs was to ensure that your postings stayed within the AUP of this site. Yes, there was confusion over the naming of the club, and I agreed it could be named after you assured controlled access to both the car park and the venue.
The reason that other moderators took a different view of this, is because you posted that "anyone could turn up, just tell the doorman you are there for the company do" Allowing any journalist or nutter an instant entry ticket.
Just in case there is still any confusion. It is not part of the moderating function to vet events of this kind in any way. We will advise, and answer questions, but the fact that we allow someone to post about an event does not mean that it has been endorsed. Each indivual member must make up their own mind about attending.
lhk
Kat
P.S. Kat is a bloke.
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Mal, the post was 'locked' when I got back from the event last time - so nobody else could place comments on there either. Most of the interest I received came through Email rather than PM - the same is true this time.
You still haven't answered the question asked. Anyone can open up a thread about anything, so just because yours was locked doesn't prevent anyone from commenting elsewhere. Regardless of whether they contacted you by email or by pm before or after the event, you still have avoided giving the details privately, in PM, to assist your verification of the event. On top of that, I would have thought that more people would have jumped to your defence with this thread, which is not locked.
Called me sceptical if you wish, but a lot of time has been spent by the Moderators TRYING to prove your right, not wrong, and to point you in the right direction. Help us to help you.
Mal
Alphamale and myself have had a chat on the phone and he has assured me that the event is genuine and that he had over 30 people there the first time. He's also assured me that there is no entry fee, the room will be for SH members only and that prices will be normal bar prices.
It's not an adult club. In fact it sounds more like a social club than anything. Other people will be using other parts of the club as per normal but this one particular room will be set aside purely for SH members.
Unfortunately at this late stage there's not a lot can be done to boost the attendance but I've promised to go over to see how things pan out. If anybody would like to join me the directions and venue are in Alphamales photo-ad which is linked in his original post.
It's not the ideal solution but at such short notice it's about the best I can come up with. If anybody else is thinking of coming over to add some support then please put a note here or e-mail/pm Alphamale. The more the merrier and it may lead to a future well attended Yorkshire munch which at the end of the day is what we all want.
Steve
It's not an adult club. In fact it sounds more like a social club than anything. Other people will be using other parts of the club as per normal but this one particular room will be set aside purely for SH members.
Unfortunately at this late stage there's not a lot can be done to boost the attendance but I've promised to go over to see how things pan out. If anybody would like to join me the directions and venue are in Alphamales photo-ad which is linked in his original post.
It's not the ideal solution but at such short notice it's about the best I can come up with. If anybody else is thinking of coming over to add some support then please put a note here or e-mail/pm Alphamale. The more the merrier and it may lead to a future well attended Yorkshire munch which at the end of the day is what we all want.
Steve
And to further emphasise to anyone else reading this - The moderators of this site have no wish to get into the situation where clubs or individuals are contacting us and asking us to check them out so that they can receive some sort of official endorsement.
Alphamale has previously offered anyone the chance to PM him, speak on the phone, or visit the club so that they can speak to those organising it, get re-assurances about the way it will be organised, and see the venue.
This is a club which is trying to meet the need for events which are swinger orientated, without the 'action' of a regular adult club. An event where you know that everyone in the room is either a swinger, or is thinking about being a swinger, but you also know that no-one is going to be coming up to you and asking you if you fancy a shag.
It is a new venture - so there is no way anyone can really say if it is something you should go to. If it is something that you are interested in - but you have doubts - contact Alphamale.
lhk
Kat
Alphamale has previously offered anyone the chance to PM him, speak on the phone, or visit the club so that they can speak to those organising it, get re-assurances about the way it will be organised, and see the venue.
This is a club which is trying to meet the need for events which are swinger orientated, without the 'action' of a regular adult club. An event where you know that everyone in the room is either a swinger, or is thinking about being a swinger, but you also know that no-one is going to be coming up to you and asking you if you fancy a shag.
It is a new venture - so there is no way anyone can really say if it is something you should go to. If it is something that you are interested in - but you have doubts - contact Alphamale.
lhk
Kat
Well, I went for a look but could only stay for about 90 mins because of other plans. I'm not sure if anybody else turned up after I left (at 9:30) which was a shame because the handful of people that were there seemed like a nice bunch.
I can't endorse the event as a Swinging Heaven moderator because that's not why we're here. The munches are events organised by individual members of the site and are probably best described as private parties held in public places. They aren't governed or influenced in any official capacity by Swinging Heaven. What I will say though is that as a member of the site I would be happy to go to the next Yorkshire munch as long as it was arranged properly (enough notice etc).
A few misunderstandings have developed over this event so I'd like to clear up the following:
1. The venue is not a club, it's a pub with a large function room. You enter through the front door and can either turn left through a set of doors into the public bar or carry straight on through a set of doors into the function room. The function room is separate from the public bar and was marked off as being closed for a private function. The function room could comfortably hold well over 150 people.
2. The bar prices are fairly normal bar prices. for a pint of smooth bitter.
3. The guy arranging the munch is not affiliated with the pub in any other way than he occasionally dj's the music in the function room when a private function is on, ie a wedding reception etc.
4. Yes the landlord is aware of who we are and he's happy to have us there. He obviously stands to gain by boosting his bar sales for the evening but so does the landlord of any other munch venue. There wasn't a cover charge or any other financial incentive that I could see. There is no intention of turning the place into a swingers club.
The only drawback I could see is that the pub is fairly remote and I don't know what accommodation would be available for people that wanted to stay in the area overnight. I also doubt that there would be a fleet of local taxis available at closing time to take people to where they were staying.
If anybody has any questions that I haven't covered then let me know and if I can answer them I will.
Steve
I can't endorse the event as a Swinging Heaven moderator because that's not why we're here. The munches are events organised by individual members of the site and are probably best described as private parties held in public places. They aren't governed or influenced in any official capacity by Swinging Heaven. What I will say though is that as a member of the site I would be happy to go to the next Yorkshire munch as long as it was arranged properly (enough notice etc).
A few misunderstandings have developed over this event so I'd like to clear up the following:
1. The venue is not a club, it's a pub with a large function room. You enter through the front door and can either turn left through a set of doors into the public bar or carry straight on through a set of doors into the function room. The function room is separate from the public bar and was marked off as being closed for a private function. The function room could comfortably hold well over 150 people.
2. The bar prices are fairly normal bar prices. for a pint of smooth bitter.
3. The guy arranging the munch is not affiliated with the pub in any other way than he occasionally dj's the music in the function room when a private function is on, ie a wedding reception etc.
4. Yes the landlord is aware of who we are and he's happy to have us there. He obviously stands to gain by boosting his bar sales for the evening but so does the landlord of any other munch venue. There wasn't a cover charge or any other financial incentive that I could see. There is no intention of turning the place into a swingers club.
The only drawback I could see is that the pub is fairly remote and I don't know what accommodation would be available for people that wanted to stay in the area overnight. I also doubt that there would be a fleet of local taxis available at closing time to take people to where they were staying.
If anybody has any questions that I haven't covered then let me know and if I can answer them I will.
Steve
HOW It WENT......
Last night was very quiet - only 5 people in total were there and one buggered off into the other room! I'm gonna put this one down to experience!
Thanks to Steveg_NW (moderator) who came over from Manchester to have a look at things, how we run it etc... I expect Steve will also comment on it soon...
If / When we arrange another Yorkshire Meet we'll make sure to give more notice etc, also take on some advice from Steve for the next one - Reckon we'll be having another chat soon.
Thanx to the people who turned up - I've received emails giving thanks etc so cheers for that!
All in all then, a very small turnout but still enjoyed by those that did turn up - advice etc taken on board, especially point about more notice - We'll keep you posted about anything happening in the future
John.
Last night was very quiet - only 5 people in total were there and one buggered off into the other room! I'm gonna put this one down to experience!
Thanks to Steveg_NW (moderator) who came over from Manchester to have a look at things, how we run it etc... I expect Steve will also comment on it soon...
If / When we arrange another Yorkshire Meet we'll make sure to give more notice etc, also take on some advice from Steve for the next one - Reckon we'll be having another chat soon.
Thanx to the people who turned up - I've received emails giving thanks etc so cheers for that!
All in all then, a very small turnout but still enjoyed by those that did turn up - advice etc taken on board, especially point about more notice - We'll keep you posted about anything happening in the future
John.
Thanks for that Steve!
Was just about to PM you, bet me to it...
I've already thaked Steve in a reply above for coming last night so I'll just say thaks for your constructive comments too Steve.
I can confirm there are several travel hotels (about £40 a double room for a couple) on the A1 both North & South of the venue within 5 mins in a car and these, being travel hotels, usually have ample availabilities on a weekend when not in use by businessmen.
There are lots of taxi companies locally too, but yes there may be a wait at certain times on a weekend night for taxis when they're busy ferrying people from home to pubs to nightclubs etc - Can't see getting a taxi being a problem however.
Thanks again,
John.
Was just about to PM you, bet me to it...
I've already thaked Steve in a reply above for coming last night so I'll just say thaks for your constructive comments too Steve.
I can confirm there are several travel hotels (about £40 a double room for a couple) on the A1 both North & South of the venue within 5 mins in a car and these, being travel hotels, usually have ample availabilities on a weekend when not in use by businessmen.
There are lots of taxi companies locally too, but yes there may be a wait at certain times on a weekend night for taxis when they're busy ferrying people from home to pubs to nightclubs etc - Can't see getting a taxi being a problem however.
Thanks again,
John.
Oops, I did reply earlier - can't have pressed 'send' or something so here it is again...
Yeah, it's not an all-out swingers club as Steve pointed out, we call it a club because of the concert/function room and it was formerly the xxxx WMC' and was built to be a club of the WMC variety.
There are actually a few hotels nearby - of the travel lodge type, both North & South from the venue on the A1 within 5 minutes drive of the venue. As these are of the travel type, usually occupied by businessmen - they're usually very empty on a weekend.
There's lots of taxi companies locally - around 10 in fact. Booking a taxi from one of these firms to pick-up and drop off at one of the above mentioned hotels wouldn't be a problem and I can supply the numbers if needed. Getting a taxi on the off-chance in the area on a weekend night wouldn't normally be a problem although may involve a wait in my experience. The manager of the venue has previously discussed plans to buy a minibus to ferry local people to/from the town centre half a mile away. If he does then the minibus would be used for our purposes to ferry people to/from hotels - although I can't honestly see him buying one at the moment.
Thanks to SteveG_NW (moderator) once again for coming a long way to see us and check out the venue. Hopefully now if/when we organise another one, someone with more credibility on Swinging Heaven than myself, (Steve), can confirm our genuinity.
Yeah, it's not an all-out swingers club as Steve pointed out, we call it a club because of the concert/function room and it was formerly the xxxx WMC' and was built to be a club of the WMC variety.
There are actually a few hotels nearby - of the travel lodge type, both North & South from the venue on the A1 within 5 minutes drive of the venue. As these are of the travel type, usually occupied by businessmen - they're usually very empty on a weekend.
There's lots of taxi companies locally - around 10 in fact. Booking a taxi from one of these firms to pick-up and drop off at one of the above mentioned hotels wouldn't be a problem and I can supply the numbers if needed. Getting a taxi on the off-chance in the area on a weekend night wouldn't normally be a problem although may involve a wait in my experience. The manager of the venue has previously discussed plans to buy a minibus to ferry local people to/from the town centre half a mile away. If he does then the minibus would be used for our purposes to ferry people to/from hotels - although I can't honestly see him buying one at the moment.
Thanks to SteveG_NW (moderator) once again for coming a long way to see us and check out the venue. Hopefully now if/when we organise another one, someone with more credibility on Swinging Heaven than myself, (Steve), can confirm our genuinity.
Quote by steveg_nw
I can't endorse the event as a Swinging Heaven moderator because that's not why we're here. The munches are events organised by individual members of the site and are probably best described as private parties held in public places. They aren't governed or influenced in any official capacity by Swinging Heaven. What I will say though is that as a member of the site I would be happy to go to the next Yorkshire munch as long as it was arranged properly (enough notice etc).
Quote by AlphaMaleUK2003
Thanks to SteveG_NW (moderator) once again for coming a long way to see us and check out the venue. Hopefully now if/when we organise another one, someone with more credibility on Swinging Heaven than myself, (Steve), can confirm our genuinity.
Which part of the paragraph I've written above don't you understand John? I am not going to endorse, confirm or add credibility to anything. I said that "as a member of the site I'd be happy to go". I don't take kindly to people trying to twist my words and I'm certainly not going to be used by someone to promote their own ends. I suggest that you accept what's happened and move on. If you're going to arrange another Yorkshire munch then do it but do it properly this time.
Steve