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Hi everyone. I'm looking for help and information. I have been a memeber of SH for a long time and made a number of contacts - via the PC with both cpls and single women, but have never been able to get futher than email/pm swaps.
What do I have to do, I am genuine, discreet and "normal".
Please help
Thanks
Phil
Hi Phil, and welcome to the forums. I know you have been around for a while but you have only done a few posts in here so thought I would say hello.
As for getting past the email stage, you really do need to stand out. Im afraid it is a numbers game. There are thousands of single guys looking to meet couples/single females and you need to be able to make you/your profile stand out from the rest of them. Ask yourself, why would someone who knows nothing about you, want to meet you rather than the thousand of others who are advertising? When you can answer that, then you just need to let the couples/single female know just what makes you so special wink
Also, some people find that the socials/munches on here can be a good way to meet people. Gives you the chance to meet other members and them the chance to meet you.
Whatever action you do decide to take, remember, you will only get from the site what you are prepared to put into it.
Good luck and have fun lol
Sound advice there from NWC..... I'd suggest a couple of other things.
Maybe make a few posts - not just about wanting to meet people on a specific date for a shag, but general chat / comment / etc. Nine posts in two and a half years is hardly going to wear your keyboard out.
And a bit of basic maths too - your profile says you're 44, but your profile text and your ad (from last month) both say you're 42. By all means lie (everyone does sometimes) but if you make it so obvious it's a bit of a giveaway.
Have fun & good luck.
Thanks everyone for your help. Yes my ad is out of date I am 44!! i will update it today.
I agree with you on all points and will try to take part more in the chat forum.
Thnaks
Phil
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And a bit of basic maths too - your profile says you're 44, but your profile text and your ad (from last month) both say you're 42. By all means lie (everyone does sometimes) but if you make it so obvious it's a bit of a giveaway.

So, I think what m_m is saying is that, if you are a blatant liar it isn't quite as seductive to the fairer sex and couples as those who are more practiced and subtle about it.
Practice makes perfect so get out there and really concentrate on lying through your back teeth. It will eventually become 2nd nature and you will have people flocking to meet you.
splendid
p.s. I am being deliberately obtuse and I apologise if you take me seriously
Ouch! I didn't *quite* mean it like that, Splendid, but I see what you mean.
I guess it's a bit like a CV isn't it....? Nobody just puts drinking, eating pizza, wanking and watching footie down as their interests, do they? (Well one girl did, and I was all for taking her on, but my boss wouldn't let me wink). But there's a difference between stretching it to "reading and travel" and saying that you were the first man on the moon, scored a hat-trick when England won the World Cup and have just retired after 10 years being the Pope.
Keep it believeable and with at least a passing connection with reality.
Should I stop now, while I can just about see out over the top of this hole I'm digging for myself?
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Should I stop now, while I can just about see out over the top of this hole I'm digging for myself?

yes rolleyes
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Sound advice from NWC (as usual)
Here's a bit of text that I used to send out to help people. By no means the ONLY way to go on a swinging site, but I've found that if I follow my own advice I get to meet a hell of a lot of people (socially) as can be seen by the people that attend my parties etc.
More than welcome to message me and we can chat about it if you want pbroad6 ?
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Hi there everyone.
Most of you will know me as Marcuso from the chat room.
I'm getting used to seeing lots of posts on here from single guys who are moaning that they don't get a meet.
Without sounding big-headed or conceited, I'd like to offer them a bit of advice on how to improve their chances of becoming accepted onto the swinging scene.
I'm not saying this is the perfect or even the only way to become accepted, but I have found that it works for me.
I am a single male who is now established & been accepted by couples and singles. Here’s the best advice I can give to single males trying to get established in the swinging scene.
1. Always be open & honest about what you are looking for. No-one likes making the effort to meet someone only to find out that they are looking for different things.
2. Never say you are gonna meet someone & then not turn up. People hate timewasters.
3. Meet people just for socials if that is all they are offering. If they are impressed with you then the sex will come naturally. As I community isnt just about sex, it’s about people just meeting up as friends too & having a relaxed meet with no pressure.
4. Be willing to go out of your way to meet people. Dont forget, you are the one who is wanting to meet people who are already established on the swinging scene & therefore, they will not go out of their way to meet you as they already have a circle of friends who they know are genuine & easy going.
5. And probably most important DON’T EVER SEEM DESPERATE TO MEET PEOPLE. Don’t push someone to meet & if someone says no then that’s what they mean. A lot of people get put off by someone being overkeen & see it as a kind of stalking.
6. Have a look in the message boards & see what people have put into those. This will give you some sort of idea as to the kind of ad to post. And always post in every board that applies to you as this will give you more chance. (Don’t forget to keep checking them regularly too as a lot of people forget to check & miss out)
7. Try going to one of the various clubs that are available all over the country or go to an open party invitation or munch that’s been posted. This will show people that you are genuine.
8. When filling in a section on your ad to what your looking for the more information you give about your self the more your profile will stand out more people will read it and take you more seriously as you have taken more time & effort over what your looking for .
Not a lot else that I can add really apart from BE PATIENT If you keep trying and are patient then it will happen eventually. Don’t be put off by a few negative replies. I must have had hundreds of negative replies before I got my first meet. But once I got my first meet I have found it a lot easier to meet people.
As I said, I'm not trying to come over as conceited or big-headed, but I have found that using my own advice I have made many new friends and have been to some really good parties and social meets.
I really hope this has helped.
Marcuso
PS.....Below are two links to different areas of the site. They give perspectives from a womans point of view and also from one of the mens. These are also worth reading!!!
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/advice/single-men.html
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/13919.html

BTW splendid_
If you ever fancy a lunch meet, give me a shout. NWC can hopefully verify that I am genuine and definitely non-pushy.
No pressure, just lunch and a chat.
If not, no worries.
Take care
Marcuso
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Lets face it,most guys on here are just here for new and exciting sexual encounters,nothing wrong with that. So instead of suffering long and frustrating hours playing email ping pong on here with fake advertiser,just go along to the local "health club" and have a great sexy time with a svelte young babe..or go see an escort. At least you know you will definately get some good sex.
sorry marcuso, but messages like yours, cut n paste 1s reallyyyyyyy put me off, theres no thought to an individual profile, a short message to start is better, well in my a single on here for a long time and ignored all long messages like that or sent back a message sayin CUT N PASTE lol but find your own way , trial n error mayb but be different !! xxj
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sorry marcuso, but messages like yours, cut n paste 1s reallyyyyyyy put me off, theres no thought to an individual profile, a short message to start is better, well in my a single on here for a long time and ignored all long messages like that or sent back a message sayin CUT N PASTE lol but find your own way , trial n error mayb but be different !! xxj

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Razor..... what marcuso was quoting from was a piece that was written by him a few years ago... and we have been bumping up from time to time... it use to be in the general advice section for the website.....
I don't think he actually sent that out to people..... smile smile
oops !!! ive not woken up yet redface redface lol i read it at 1st as his message he sent, sorry havin a non blond moment wink xxj