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i know he wasnt disables by ther gym bag and the way he jogged into the store. that good enough for you? oh and yes, he didnt have a badge,
I know some disabilities arnt always aparent, but can you explian why disabled bays are close to the store entrance? its for the disabled who are mobility impaired, yes? so if your disabbility doesnt affect your ability to walk or move about the store why should you park outside the door?
Winchwench, yes i do belive you need to open the door wider to get your kids out, likewise i need to get the door open wider to get my shopping in the car as we have a two door couple with no boot, so should i get a wider space also?
Just because you CHOSE to have kids, doesnt mean you get special rights.
I know some disabilities arnt always aparent, but can you explian why disabled bays are close to the store entrance? its for the disabled who are mobility impaired, yes? so if your disabbility doesnt affect your ability to walk or move about the store why should you park outside the door?
Winchwench, yes i do belive you need to open the door wider to get your kids out, likewise i need to get the door open wider to get my shopping in the car as we have a two door couple with no boot, so should i get a wider space also?
Just because you CHOSE to have kids, doesnt mean you get special rights.
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i know he wasnt disables by ther gym bag and the way he jogged into the store. that good enough for you? oh and yes, he didnt have a badge,
I know some disabilities arnt always aparent, but can you explian why disabled bays are close to the store entrance? its for the disabled who are mobility impaired, yes? so if your disabbility doesnt affect your ability to walk or move about the store why should you park outside the door?
Winchwench, yes i do belive you need to open the door wider to get your kids out, likewise i need to get the door open wider to get my shopping in the car as we have a two door couple with no boot, so should i get a wider space also?
Just because you CHOSE to have kids, doesnt mean you get special rights.
When that "special right" means I don't accidentally dent your two door couple (sic) surely you should approve?
In edit- Chezza, sorry to hijack honey & go off on a tangent- I'll let this get back to where it should be. :thumbup:
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Its not though is it Cherry? How can someone pass judgement on who is and isnt healthy?
Help me here cos I dont understand.
My doctor decided I was healthy enough not to need a badge yet I could hardly move. My next door neighbour's Mum, who lived with her, was registered disabled - yet she was able-bodied enough to run out to the street and put traffic cones out to reserve their parking space whenever they used the car.
Not everyone who's disabled looks disabled but if they move freely and can carry shopping you have to wonder, don't you?
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markz, are you implying that people reproduce purely for the purpose of lookin after old folk? No, of course they dont, im simply saying that having kids, doesnt give parents the rights that many have come to expect.
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline
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markz, are you implying that people reproduce purely for the purpose of lookin after old folk? No, of course they dont, im simply saying that having kids, doesnt give parents the rights that many have come to expect.
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline
I've never seen a dissaplined buggie before......
markz, are you implying that people reproduce purely for the purpose of lookin after old folk? No, of course they dont, im simply saying that having kids, doesnt give parents the rights that many have come to expect.
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline/quote]
You dont expect people to do that nowadays do you??
:lol:
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline/quote]
You dont expect people to do that nowadays do you??
:lol: 
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markz, are you implying that people reproduce purely for the purpose of lookin after old folk? No, of course they dont, im simply saying that having kids, doesnt give parents the rights that many have come to expect.
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline
Or discipline. Or manners. Or courtesy.
The point is, although people managed years ago, things have been put in place so that they don't have to manage. Yes, it's a ploy by the supermarkets to get custom - but if it makes life a little easier, so what?
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unfortunately 777, i dont expect anything anymore, i give up! When the best rapper in the world is white, and the best golfer in the world is black, i gave all got very confusing!
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unfortunately 777, i dont expect anything anymore, i give up! When the best rapper in the world is white, and the best golfer in the world is black, i gave all got very confusing!
Its a strange old world!
It dont bother me about children spaces IF they got kids but I seen em park in them with no kids. :shock:
It just confirms to me that a lot of people really just dont give a toss anymore about anything.
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While im not saying every child in the country is fat, i do wonder why there is a huge growth in obeasity numbers in recent years, im not saying its soley down to P&C spaces, but as tescos points out, 'every little helps' :shock:
Yep, 'every little helps' - like helping make the shopping experience a little less stressful for some people.
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It seems you are laughing slightly as you wrote that missy
Perseptive of you, I did write it slightly tongue in cheek - the vision I have of our Supermarket at 11 o'clock at night did make me smile. But noone else can see it, so it was a bit of an out of place post. If I had've explained the place I'm on about, it would've looked like I was trying to justify it, which is not what I wanted to do. As you've quite rightly said, whatever the place is, it still doesn't make it right to park in the spaces.
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....sorry but it is wrong,
I know it's wrong ....... but unfortunately at 11 o'clock at night peeing with rain, I can't say I'm gonna drive past the many many empty disabled spaces, to park elsewhere for the few mins I'm in the shop. By the same token, if some of the spaces have already been taken, then I wouldn't park there, I would not risk putting someone out because of my bad parking habits.
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but nice that you would not take the last space.
I'll correct that, I would not take one of the last 20 spaces.
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Am sure my disabled Father would appreciate that gesture. :shock:
Your dad lives near me??? How do you know?? :shock:
Once again, please don't pick me up on trying to justify my actions, it's not the intention of my posts. It's purely an admission that I have done it.
I have to say I find the push chair parking spaces vaguely annoying too, not for the people who actually need them, but most of the time they're used by people with kids who are running around and are perfectly capable of walking across a car park. I also admit to sometimes using them if I can find two spaces empty next to each other, my van has the turning circle of a small tanker and unless I can find an end space, normal spaces aren't wide enough*.
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* Any 'wide load' remarks will be ignored
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* Any 'wide load' remarks will be ignored
Quote by kentduo
markz, are you implying that people reproduce purely for the purpose of lookin after old folk? No, of course they dont, im simply saying that having kids, doesnt give parents the rights that many have come to expect.
face it, P&C spaces have only been around for what,10 years???? Gosh how did we all cope before hand?
My mother managed with three of us, on a london bus, with two buggies and a toddler, plus if my mother had asked me to hold a car door, i would have done it, its called disapline
Absolutely my last post (by special dispensation) because I don't want to be responsible for Cherry's thread nosediving.
To that end- I'll only make a a few points about your post. No, KD- I did not have my children for your benefit. However, I'm damn sure they'll benefit you far more than your choice of car will benefit the rest of us.
Try reading my post again. I'm a fit, strong woman and I've accidentally had my car door taken out of my hand several times by unexpected gusts of wind. Once or twice it's taken paint off neighbouring cars. So a three year old could prevent that how? It's not about discipline at all.
For the record - even when I had a newborn, 3 year old and a four year old in tow, you could count the number of times I used specified spaces on one hand.
Oh, and where I live, there are no buses.
mmm yes, my choice of car is perfectly relevent here isnt it? You ddint have your kids to benifit, me, just like we dont chose our car to benefit you! better not mention the range rover with bull bars then.
If your a fit strong woman etc etc, does it matter where you park if the door will get blown out of your hand? or should all parking spaces be so wide just in case?
I have not,and would never tell anyone to get a bus over their car, that to is a choice we make.
If your a fit strong woman etc etc, does it matter where you park if the door will get blown out of your hand? or should all parking spaces be so wide just in case?
I have not,and would never tell anyone to get a bus over their car, that to is a choice we make.
I'd put myself on a no post embargo the last few months, but this is a topic that really pisses me off.
I'll admit, I'm an utter bastard. I'll park in P&C spaces as and when, I feel it's only fair that a family has to walk a bit further before clogging up aisles, inflicting their fetid clashing of gametes on my ears, and being somehow more deserving of a retail experience because they've added to the population of an already overflowing island.
Yes I have sympathy for single parents who have no choice but to take their children shopping, but there's scant few single parents compared to the myriad of two parent several child families meandering the stores. The parents generally look harassed, the children bored and stressed. But somehow it's become standard practice for people to go through this ritual, and I object to the supermarkets encouraging it as a cynical ploy to make more money. These families may be more profitable than my single person shopping, but why should I or anyone else who shops sans crochfruit be made to feel less worthy?
I happen to drive older, rarer cars. The chances of me feeling like ripping someones arm off to prevent them ever slamming their door into the side of my car again is muchly reduced if the spaces are wide enough to begin with. Many times I've been in my car when I've felt and heard the thunk of bodywork on bodywork, and at no point has the offender ever apologised, even when I've made a point of checking the paintwork on my car and commenting they'd luckily not done any damage. P&C spaces are wide enough to prevent this happening, and if that's the only way I can be sure to avoid this kind of damage then it's just one more reason to use them.
When it comes to disabled spaces, they seem to be the reserve of the elderly. This I can understand, many of the elderly do have mobility problems that interfere with simple tasks such as shopping. But so do many people of all ages, and these problems are not always instantly apparent. A friend of mine suffers from extreme anxiety, yet to look at would be considered fully able. Until a panic attack occurs in the middle of the toiletries aisle, at which point every step back to the safety of the car is like running a mile through treacle. Not all illnesses are physical, and not all mental illnesses have no effect on physical ability.
I myself frequently have lower leg cramps, back pains, and also suffer from certain head fuck ups. To see me most days you'd think there was nothing wrong with me, and so long as everything is in my "comfort zone", you'd be right. But some days everything is not holding together very well for me, and being that little bit closer to the supermarket door is vital. I do my best to use the furthest disabled space from the door, and then only if there's several others empty, or the nearest normal space if it's a similar distance (or, of course, the nearest P&C space if there's one empty!). I wonder how kindly I'd take to someone deliberately blocking my access to a space due to my choice in car and lack of badge of inability? I wonder how kindly they'd take to a mouthful of abuse and rubbing of chrome bumper on shins, or a three hour conversation on the subject, depending on how my head was working at the time?
I'll admit, I'm an utter bastard. I'll park in P&C spaces as and when, I feel it's only fair that a family has to walk a bit further before clogging up aisles, inflicting their fetid clashing of gametes on my ears, and being somehow more deserving of a retail experience because they've added to the population of an already overflowing island.
Yes I have sympathy for single parents who have no choice but to take their children shopping, but there's scant few single parents compared to the myriad of two parent several child families meandering the stores. The parents generally look harassed, the children bored and stressed. But somehow it's become standard practice for people to go through this ritual, and I object to the supermarkets encouraging it as a cynical ploy to make more money. These families may be more profitable than my single person shopping, but why should I or anyone else who shops sans crochfruit be made to feel less worthy?
I happen to drive older, rarer cars. The chances of me feeling like ripping someones arm off to prevent them ever slamming their door into the side of my car again is muchly reduced if the spaces are wide enough to begin with. Many times I've been in my car when I've felt and heard the thunk of bodywork on bodywork, and at no point has the offender ever apologised, even when I've made a point of checking the paintwork on my car and commenting they'd luckily not done any damage. P&C spaces are wide enough to prevent this happening, and if that's the only way I can be sure to avoid this kind of damage then it's just one more reason to use them.
When it comes to disabled spaces, they seem to be the reserve of the elderly. This I can understand, many of the elderly do have mobility problems that interfere with simple tasks such as shopping. But so do many people of all ages, and these problems are not always instantly apparent. A friend of mine suffers from extreme anxiety, yet to look at would be considered fully able. Until a panic attack occurs in the middle of the toiletries aisle, at which point every step back to the safety of the car is like running a mile through treacle. Not all illnesses are physical, and not all mental illnesses have no effect on physical ability.
I myself frequently have lower leg cramps, back pains, and also suffer from certain head fuck ups. To see me most days you'd think there was nothing wrong with me, and so long as everything is in my "comfort zone", you'd be right. But some days everything is not holding together very well for me, and being that little bit closer to the supermarket door is vital. I do my best to use the furthest disabled space from the door, and then only if there's several others empty, or the nearest normal space if it's a similar distance (or, of course, the nearest P&C space if there's one empty!). I wonder how kindly I'd take to someone deliberately blocking my access to a space due to my choice in car and lack of badge of inability? I wonder how kindly they'd take to a mouthful of abuse and rubbing of chrome bumper on shins, or a three hour conversation on the subject, depending on how my head was working at the time?
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Its not though is it Cherry? How can someone pass judgement on who is and isnt healthy?
Help me here cos I dont understand.
My doctor decided I was healthy enough not to need a badge yet I could hardly move. My next door neighbour's Mum, who lived with her, was registered disabled - yet she was able-bodied enough to run out to the street and put traffic cones out to reserve their parking space whenever they used the car.
Not everyone who's disabled looks disabled but if they move freely and can carry shopping you have to wonder, don't you?
H.x
As far as Im aware, only people on DLA High/Middle Rate Mobility qualify to apply for a blue badge. It isnt for a GP to make the decision who can or cannot have a blue badge. Its usually long term disabilities that qualify not those which are likely to improve. Hope you are feeling much better now.
As for your neighbour, I couldnt possibly comment.
I can move freely but what you class as freely and what I class as freely may be 2 different things I also carry shopping and yes it does make me wonder.....It makes me wonder how the hell I manage it!
Sorry but your post and Im sure its not intended that way, makes it sound like people with disabilities shouldnt be allowed out to live some sort of a life.
Its also just occured to me.......
Im hardly likely to get a shag now all n sundry know I have a disability
Maybe its best if I just start hopping around on the ol crutches and go for the sympathy shag eh :giggle: Sex God
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I'd put myself on a no post embargo the last few months, but this is a topic that really pisses me off.
I'll admit, I'm an utter bastard. I'll park in P&C spaces as and when, I feel it's only fair that a family has to walk a bit further before clogging up aisles, inflicting their fetid clashing of gametes on my ears, and being somehow more deserving of a retail experience because they've added to the population of an already overflowing island.
Yes I have sympathy for single parents who have no choice but to take their children shopping, but there's scant few single parents compared to the myriad of two parent several child families meandering the stores. The parents generally look harassed, the children bored and stressed. But somehow it's become standard practice for people to go through this ritual, and I object to the supermarkets encouraging it as a cynical ploy to make more money. These families may be more profitable than my single person shopping, but why should I or anyone else who shops sans crochfruit be made to feel less worthy?
I happen to drive older, rarer cars. The chances of me feeling like ripping someones arm off to prevent them ever slamming their door into the side of my car again is muchly reduced if the spaces are wide enough to begin with. Many times I've been in my car when I've felt and heard the thunk of bodywork on bodywork, and at no point has the offender ever apologised, even when I've made a point of checking the paintwork on my car and commenting they'd luckily not done any damage. P&C spaces are wide enough to prevent this happening, and if that's the only way I can be sure to avoid this kind of damage then it's just one more reason to use them.
When it comes to disabled spaces, they seem to be the reserve of the elderly. This I can understand, many of the elderly do have mobility problems that interfere with simple tasks such as shopping. But so do many people of all ages, and these problems are not always instantly apparent. A friend of mine suffers from extreme anxiety, yet to look at would be considered fully able. Until a panic attack occurs in the middle of the toiletries aisle, at which point every step back to the safety of the car is like running a mile through treacle. Not all illnesses are physical, and not all mental illnesses have no effect on physical ability.
I myself frequently have lower leg cramps, back pains, and also suffer from certain head fuck ups. To see me most days you'd think there was nothing wrong with me, and so long as everything is in my "comfort zone", you'd be right. But some days everything is not holding together very well for me, and being that little bit closer to the supermarket door is vital. I do my best to use the furthest disabled space from the door, and then only if there's several others empty, or the nearest normal space if it's a similar distance (or, of course, the nearest P&C space if there's one empty!). I wonder how kindly I'd take to someone deliberately blocking my access to a space due to my choice in car and lack of badge of inability? I wonder how kindly they'd take to a mouthful of abuse and rubbing of chrome bumper on shins, or a three hour conversation on the subject, depending on how my head was working at the time?
Must admit, Shambolic, your post has scared the sh*t out of me.
Do you mean that people shouldn't object to anyone they feel is abusing the disabled space, because it might be you, and you might run them over?
